Comments on: Someone Did Lose the Sanchez-Guida Fight http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:58:36 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Patrickk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-90867 Patrickk Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:05:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15009#comment-90867 Yeah, definitely agree with JJDocker. Guida got manhandled the first round. If he did not have a granite chin, determination, AND heart; with only two of those intangibles he would have folded, because he was getting obliterated throughout the whole first round. You can really say it should have been 10-8 in the first round. But yeah, the fight was extremely amazing and spectacular! Diego will be in line for the winner of Penn vs. Florian I beileve. Also, Guida is a great fighter, but it kind of seems like his only good attribute is being able to lay and pray. Don't take it so literally, because Guida can stifle submissions, and also he has decent hands. But the only reason he beat Danzig was lay and pray, and then the only reason he won the 2nd round was because of lay and pray. On another note, the only way Joe 'Daddy' Stevenson beat Nate Diaz is because of lay and pray. It's ridiculous and quite boring. But all the respect for the fighter's and their gameplans. To me it's not real fighting. In a real fight, you don't know your opponent's strengths and weaknesses, but you kind of figure them out on the fly and go with the flow. I like Wanderlei Silva because he does not train for the other fighter's weaknessess, he just trains for anything and that's why he is one of my favorites and true warriors. Aside from the sidebar, Sanchez won and will be next for the title, and Guida is an animal with a seemingly endless cardio bank. Yeah, definitely agree with JJDocker.

Guida got manhandled the first round. If he did not have a granite chin, determination, AND heart; with only two of those intangibles he would have folded, because he was getting obliterated throughout the whole first round. You can really say it should have been 10-8 in the first round.

But yeah, the fight was extremely amazing and spectacular!

Diego will be in line for the winner of Penn vs. Florian I beileve.

Also, Guida is a great fighter, but it kind of seems like his only good attribute is being able to lay and pray. Don’t take it so literally, because Guida can stifle submissions, and also he has decent hands. But the only reason he beat Danzig was lay and pray, and then the only reason he won the 2nd round was because of lay and pray.

On another note, the only way Joe ‘Daddy’ Stevenson beat Nate Diaz is because of lay and pray. It’s ridiculous and quite boring. But all the respect for the fighter’s and their gameplans. To me it’s not real fighting.

In a real fight, you don’t know your opponent’s strengths and weaknesses, but you kind of figure them out on the fly and go with the flow.

I like Wanderlei Silva because he does not train for the other fighter’s weaknessess, he just trains for anything and that’s why he is one of my favorites and true warriors.

Aside from the sidebar, Sanchez won and will be next for the title, and Guida is an animal with a seemingly endless cardio bank.

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]]> By: MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-74282 MMA-LOGIC Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:47:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15009#comment-74282 I watched this fight and came away thinking that the 10 point must system was more flawed than ever. Sanchez won the fight by a huge margin in my opinion. I am astounded that people are saying that Guida won?!!! This fight was not close at all. I don't care if Guida took him down Sanchez did more damage from the bottom. Sanchez will be hard to stop at 155, in fact I'll go out on a limb and say that he will be champ at 155. By the way who cares if you like his personality or not, it is a sport, not a popularity contest. It sux the way this sport is influenced by a fighters popularity. I watched this fight and came away thinking that the 10 point must system was more flawed than ever. Sanchez won the fight by a huge margin in my opinion. I am astounded that people are saying that Guida won?!!! This fight was not close at all. I don’t care if Guida took him down Sanchez did more damage from the bottom. Sanchez will be hard to stop at 155, in fact I’ll go out on a limb and say that he will be champ at 155.
By the way who cares if you like his personality or not, it is a sport, not a popularity contest. It sux the way this sport is influenced by a fighters popularity.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-73490 edub Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:54:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15009#comment-73490 RU- Diego is good but not that good. If he comes at either BJ or Kenny like that in the first seconds he will go down. Bj and Kenny are both lightyears ahead of him in the stand up. Hell even he ran at Maynard or Griffen like that hed be put on his back. RU- Diego is good but not that good. If he comes at either BJ or Kenny like that in the first seconds he will go down. Bj and Kenny are both lightyears ahead of him in the stand up.

Hell even he ran at Maynard or Griffen like that hed be put on his back.

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]]> By: TheLevi75 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-73485 TheLevi75 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:45:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15009#comment-73485 the Carpenter has gotta be one of the 1 of the most over rated fighters in the UFC.sure he can hop around after a 15 minute fight but that doesn't mean he could have won a 5 round fight.if he was more effective while trying to finish the fight, he wouldn't have had so much energy after 15 minutes of fighting. his UFC record should say W 2 - L 1 - D 6, six draws for never finising or being finished in the Octagon.if he doesn't improve then he will never deserve a title shot. the Carpenter has gotta be one of the 1 of the most over rated fighters in the UFC.sure he can hop around after a 15 minute fight but that doesn’t mean he could have won a 5 round fight.if he was more effective while trying to finish the fight, he wouldn’t have had so much energy after 15 minutes of fighting. his UFC record should say W 2 – L 1 – D 6, six draws for never finising or being finished in the Octagon.if he doesn’t improve then he will never deserve a title shot.

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]]> By: AntonK http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-73312 AntonK Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:19:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15009#comment-73312 I'm sorry, I still don't see the brilliance of Guida's game... please tell me where the "brilliance" was in his barely withstanding an onslaught - to me Guida is all about grit, not brilliance... Ali was brilliant. Guida, not so much. I’m sorry, I still don’t see the brilliance of Guida’s game… please tell me where the “brilliance” was in his barely withstanding an onslaught – to me Guida is all about grit, not brilliance…

Ali was brilliant. Guida, not so much.

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]]> By: GetItOn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-73305 GetItOn Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:53:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15009#comment-73305 RU486 - I couldn't agree more about the problems that Florian or Penn will face with Sanchez. I am excited to see more of Diego at 155. Always shows up and always puts on a show. RU486 – I couldn’t agree more about the problems that Florian or Penn will face with Sanchez. I am excited to see more of Diego at 155. Always shows up and always puts on a show.

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]]> By: RU486 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-73200 RU486 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:45:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15009#comment-73200 I've been a member of this forum for some time, and generally when I see mu_shin speak, I know it's the truth. He's the only person that has ever curbed my standpoint in an MMA forum in easily six or seven years time. Once again he is right on, spouting aesthetics that no one else has even bothered to recognize. Yes, Diego won the fight, Yes Guida lost, but in the end the fans won more, and therefore each fighter fulfilled his purpose. Excellent point. On to argument. Sanchez (I hate the guy) was super impressive in round 1, but missed the 10-8 round slightly because Guida took him down. Without the takedown, Sanchez gets 10-8. Round 2 was all Guida on top. I thought about 2 minutes in that Diego obviously had a hard time making weight, and seemed to be sputtering out. He stayed focused and pulled his way through it. Round 2 was completely uneventful. Diego was smart to initiate the kimura because he would have lost the round due to positioning, but keeping Clay busy trying to escape a submission for the remainder of the fight obviously shined well on him. Diego has a bright future at 155. He appears to have lost some of his strength, but gained so much speed and agility. With his run and gun fight philosophy, I'm hard pressed to find more than a couple of 155 guys that can hang with him. He needs to naturally lose about 5 pounds of his walk-around weight to make the cut a little easier, but so far I've been impressed with what I've seen. The winner of BJ / Florian is going to be in big trouble. There's no way either of those guys can withstand the onslaught he gave Clay Guida. I’ve been a member of this forum for some time, and generally when I see mu_shin speak, I know it’s the truth. He’s the only person that has ever curbed my standpoint in an MMA forum in easily six or seven years time. Once again he is right on, spouting aesthetics that no one else has even bothered to recognize. Yes, Diego won the fight, Yes Guida lost, but in the end the fans won more, and therefore each fighter fulfilled his purpose. Excellent point.

On to argument. Sanchez (I hate the guy) was super impressive in round 1, but missed the 10-8 round slightly because Guida took him down. Without the takedown, Sanchez gets 10-8.
Round 2 was all Guida on top. I thought about 2 minutes in that Diego obviously had a hard time making weight, and seemed to be sputtering out. He stayed focused and pulled his way through it.
Round 2 was completely uneventful. Diego was smart to initiate the kimura because he would have lost the round due to positioning, but keeping Clay busy trying to escape a submission for the remainder of the fight obviously shined well on him.

Diego has a bright future at 155. He appears to have lost some of his strength, but gained so much speed and agility. With his run and gun fight philosophy, I’m hard pressed to find more than a couple of 155 guys that can hang with him. He needs to naturally lose about 5 pounds of his walk-around weight to make the cut a little easier, but so far I’ve been impressed with what I’ve seen. The winner of BJ / Florian is going to be in big trouble. There’s no way either of those guys can withstand the onslaught he gave Clay Guida.

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]]> By: AntonK http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-73161 AntonK Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:51:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15009#comment-73161 Snoop, That's pretty funny. Anyway, yeah I'm a little nuts. I'm not saying the mma world is trying to put diego down at all - if you read my posts carefully, I'm not talking about the judging or the UFC's marketing system - I'm talking about a particular fan base that insists Guida actually won - they just can't take the fact that their boy lost - read some of the posts on Sherdog and you'll see what I'm talking about... Snoop,

That’s pretty funny. Anyway, yeah I’m a little nuts. I’m not saying the mma world is trying to put diego down at all – if you read my posts carefully, I’m not talking about the judging or the UFC’s marketing system – I’m talking about a particular fan base that insists Guida actually won – they just can’t take the fact that their boy lost – read some of the posts on Sherdog and you’ll see what I’m talking about…

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]]> By: Snoop Dogg http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-72962 Snoop Dogg Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:57:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15009#comment-72962 AntonK you are crazy bro. yeah the MMA world is just trying to put the mexican down LOL. If people dislike Diego it is most likely because he is a Jesus freak and an odd personality. I like Diego I am a white dude but if I would listen to how he speaks instead of watch how he fights I might not like him. If there is one racist MMA fan I think it is you AntonK. AntonK you are crazy bro. yeah the MMA world is just trying to put the mexican down LOL. If people dislike Diego it is most likely because he is a Jesus freak and an odd personality. I like Diego I am a white dude but if I would listen to how he speaks instead of watch how he fights I might not like him. If there is one racist MMA fan I think it is you AntonK.

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]]> By: AntonK http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-72930 AntonK Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:57:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15009#comment-72930 Interesting points - however I don't believe Guida was "brilliant" in defeat. In fact, despite showing considerable heart, he did little but prove his own deficits as a fighter. Interesting points – however I don’t believe Guida was “brilliant” in defeat. In fact, despite showing considerable heart, he did little but prove his own deficits as a fighter.

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