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	<title>Comments on: Someone Did Lose the Sanchez-Guida Fight</title>
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		<title>By: Patrickk</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-90867</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrickk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, definitely agree with JJDocker.

Guida got manhandled the first round. If he did not have a granite chin, determination, AND heart; with only two of those intangibles he would have folded, because he was getting obliterated throughout the whole first round. You can really say it should have been 10-8 in the first round.

But yeah, the fight was extremely amazing and spectacular!

Diego will be in line for the winner of Penn vs. Florian I beileve.

Also, Guida is a great fighter, but it kind of seems like his only good attribute is being able to lay and pray. Don&#039;t take it so literally, because Guida can stifle submissions, and also he has decent hands. But the only reason he beat Danzig was lay and pray, and then the only reason he won the 2nd round was because of lay and pray.

On another note, the only way Joe &#039;Daddy&#039; Stevenson beat Nate Diaz is because of lay and pray. It&#039;s ridiculous and quite boring. But all the respect for the fighter&#039;s and their gameplans. To me it&#039;s not real fighting.

In a real fight, you don&#039;t know your opponent&#039;s strengths and weaknesses, but you kind of figure them out on the fly and go with the flow.

I like Wanderlei Silva because he does not train for the other fighter&#039;s weaknessess, he just trains for anything and that&#039;s why he is one of my favorites and true warriors.

Aside from the sidebar, Sanchez won and will be next for the title, and Guida is an animal with a seemingly endless cardio bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, definitely agree with JJDocker.</p>
<p>Guida got manhandled the first round. If he did not have a granite chin, determination, AND heart; with only two of those intangibles he would have folded, because he was getting obliterated throughout the whole first round. You can really say it should have been 10-8 in the first round.</p>
<p>But yeah, the fight was extremely amazing and spectacular!</p>
<p>Diego will be in line for the winner of Penn vs. Florian I beileve.</p>
<p>Also, Guida is a great fighter, but it kind of seems like his only good attribute is being able to lay and pray. Don&#8217;t take it so literally, because Guida can stifle submissions, and also he has decent hands. But the only reason he beat Danzig was lay and pray, and then the only reason he won the 2nd round was because of lay and pray.</p>
<p>On another note, the only way Joe &#8216;Daddy&#8217; Stevenson beat Nate Diaz is because of lay and pray. It&#8217;s ridiculous and quite boring. But all the respect for the fighter&#8217;s and their gameplans. To me it&#8217;s not real fighting.</p>
<p>In a real fight, you don&#8217;t know your opponent&#8217;s strengths and weaknesses, but you kind of figure them out on the fly and go with the flow.</p>
<p>I like Wanderlei Silva because he does not train for the other fighter&#8217;s weaknessess, he just trains for anything and that&#8217;s why he is one of my favorites and true warriors.</p>
<p>Aside from the sidebar, Sanchez won and will be next for the title, and Guida is an animal with a seemingly endless cardio bank.</p>
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		<title>By: MMA-LOGIC</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-74282</link>
		<dc:creator>MMA-LOGIC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched this fight and came away thinking that the 10 point must system was more flawed than ever. Sanchez won the fight by a huge margin in my opinion. I am astounded that people are saying that Guida won?!!! This fight was not close at all. I don&#039;t care if Guida took him down Sanchez did more damage from the bottom. Sanchez will be hard to stop at 155, in fact I&#039;ll go out on a limb and say that he will be champ at 155.
By the way who cares if you like his personality or not, it is a sport, not a popularity contest. It sux the way this sport is influenced by a fighters popularity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched this fight and came away thinking that the 10 point must system was more flawed than ever. Sanchez won the fight by a huge margin in my opinion. I am astounded that people are saying that Guida won?!!! This fight was not close at all. I don&#8217;t care if Guida took him down Sanchez did more damage from the bottom. Sanchez will be hard to stop at 155, in fact I&#8217;ll go out on a limb and say that he will be champ at 155.<br />
By the way who cares if you like his personality or not, it is a sport, not a popularity contest. It sux the way this sport is influenced by a fighters popularity.</p>
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		<title>By: edub</title>
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		<dc:creator>edub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RU- Diego is good but not that good. If he comes at either BJ or Kenny like that in the first seconds he will go down. Bj and Kenny are both lightyears ahead of him in the stand up.

Hell even he ran at Maynard or Griffen like that hed be put on his back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RU- Diego is good but not that good. If he comes at either BJ or Kenny like that in the first seconds he will go down. Bj and Kenny are both lightyears ahead of him in the stand up.</p>
<p>Hell even he ran at Maynard or Griffen like that hed be put on his back.</p>
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		<title>By: TheLevi75</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheLevi75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the Carpenter has gotta be one of the 1 of the most over rated fighters in the UFC.sure he can hop around after a 15 minute fight but that doesn&#039;t mean he could have won a 5 round fight.if he was more effective while trying to finish the fight, he wouldn&#039;t have had so much energy after 15 minutes of fighting. his UFC record should say W 2 - L 1 - D 6, six draws for never finising or being finished in the Octagon.if he doesn&#039;t improve then he will never deserve a title shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Carpenter has gotta be one of the 1 of the most over rated fighters in the UFC.sure he can hop around after a 15 minute fight but that doesn&#8217;t mean he could have won a 5 round fight.if he was more effective while trying to finish the fight, he wouldn&#8217;t have had so much energy after 15 minutes of fighting. his UFC record should say W 2 &#8211; L 1 &#8211; D 6, six draws for never finising or being finished in the Octagon.if he doesn&#8217;t improve then he will never deserve a title shot.</p>
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		<title>By: AntonK</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-73312</link>
		<dc:creator>AntonK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, I still don&#039;t see the brilliance of Guida&#039;s game... please tell me where the &quot;brilliance&quot; was in his barely withstanding an onslaught - to me Guida is all about grit, not brilliance...

Ali was brilliant.  Guida, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I still don&#8217;t see the brilliance of Guida&#8217;s game&#8230; please tell me where the &#8220;brilliance&#8221; was in his barely withstanding an onslaught &#8211; to me Guida is all about grit, not brilliance&#8230;</p>
<p>Ali was brilliant.  Guida, not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: GetItOn</title>
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		<dc:creator>GetItOn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RU486 - I couldn&#039;t agree more about the problems that Florian or Penn will face with Sanchez.  I am excited to see more of Diego at 155.  Always shows up and always puts on a show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RU486 &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t agree more about the problems that Florian or Penn will face with Sanchez.  I am excited to see more of Diego at 155.  Always shows up and always puts on a show.</p>
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		<title>By: RU486</title>
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		<dc:creator>RU486</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a member of this forum for some time, and generally when I see mu_shin speak, I know it&#039;s the truth. He&#039;s the only person that has ever curbed my standpoint in an MMA forum in easily six or seven years time. Once again he is right on, spouting aesthetics that no one else has even bothered to recognize. Yes, Diego won the fight, Yes Guida lost, but in the end the fans won more, and therefore each fighter fulfilled his purpose. Excellent point.

On to argument. Sanchez (I hate the guy) was super impressive in round 1, but missed the 10-8 round slightly because Guida took him down. Without the takedown, Sanchez gets 10-8. 
Round 2 was all Guida on top. I thought about 2 minutes in that Diego obviously had a hard time making weight, and seemed to be sputtering out. He stayed focused and pulled his way through it.
Round 2 was completely uneventful. Diego was smart to initiate the kimura because he would have lost the round due to positioning, but keeping Clay busy trying to escape a submission for the remainder of the fight obviously shined well on him. 

Diego has a bright future at 155. He appears to have lost some of his strength, but gained so much speed and agility. With his run and gun fight philosophy, I&#039;m hard pressed to find more than a couple of 155 guys that can hang with him. He needs to naturally lose about 5 pounds of his walk-around weight to make the cut a little easier, but so far I&#039;ve been impressed with what I&#039;ve seen. The winner of BJ / Florian is going to be in big trouble. There&#039;s no way either of those guys can withstand the onslaught he gave Clay Guida.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a member of this forum for some time, and generally when I see mu_shin speak, I know it&#8217;s the truth. He&#8217;s the only person that has ever curbed my standpoint in an MMA forum in easily six or seven years time. Once again he is right on, spouting aesthetics that no one else has even bothered to recognize. Yes, Diego won the fight, Yes Guida lost, but in the end the fans won more, and therefore each fighter fulfilled his purpose. Excellent point.</p>
<p>On to argument. Sanchez (I hate the guy) was super impressive in round 1, but missed the 10-8 round slightly because Guida took him down. Without the takedown, Sanchez gets 10-8.<br />
Round 2 was all Guida on top. I thought about 2 minutes in that Diego obviously had a hard time making weight, and seemed to be sputtering out. He stayed focused and pulled his way through it.<br />
Round 2 was completely uneventful. Diego was smart to initiate the kimura because he would have lost the round due to positioning, but keeping Clay busy trying to escape a submission for the remainder of the fight obviously shined well on him. </p>
<p>Diego has a bright future at 155. He appears to have lost some of his strength, but gained so much speed and agility. With his run and gun fight philosophy, I&#8217;m hard pressed to find more than a couple of 155 guys that can hang with him. He needs to naturally lose about 5 pounds of his walk-around weight to make the cut a little easier, but so far I&#8217;ve been impressed with what I&#8217;ve seen. The winner of BJ / Florian is going to be in big trouble. There&#8217;s no way either of those guys can withstand the onslaught he gave Clay Guida.</p>
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		<title>By: AntonK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AntonK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snoop,


That&#039;s pretty funny.  Anyway, yeah I&#039;m a little nuts.  I&#039;m not saying the mma world is trying to put diego down at all - if you read my posts carefully, I&#039;m not talking about the judging or the UFC&#039;s marketing system - I&#039;m talking about a particular fan base that insists Guida actually won - they just can&#039;t take the fact that their boy lost - read some of the posts on Sherdog and you&#039;ll see what I&#039;m talking about...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snoop,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty funny.  Anyway, yeah I&#8217;m a little nuts.  I&#8217;m not saying the mma world is trying to put diego down at all &#8211; if you read my posts carefully, I&#8217;m not talking about the judging or the UFC&#8217;s marketing system &#8211; I&#8217;m talking about a particular fan base that insists Guida actually won &#8211; they just can&#8217;t take the fact that their boy lost &#8211; read some of the posts on Sherdog and you&#8217;ll see what I&#8217;m talking about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Snoop Dogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snoop Dogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AntonK you are crazy bro.  yeah the MMA world is just trying to put the mexican down LOL.  If people dislike Diego it is most likely because he is a Jesus freak and an odd personality.  I like Diego I am a white dude but if I would listen to how he speaks instead of watch how he fights I might not like him.  If there is one racist MMA fan I think it is you AntonK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AntonK you are crazy bro.  yeah the MMA world is just trying to put the mexican down LOL.  If people dislike Diego it is most likely because he is a Jesus freak and an odd personality.  I like Diego I am a white dude but if I would listen to how he speaks instead of watch how he fights I might not like him.  If there is one racist MMA fan I think it is you AntonK.</p>
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		<title>By: AntonK</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-72930</link>
		<dc:creator>AntonK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting points - however I don&#039;t believe Guida was &quot;brilliant&quot; in defeat.  In fact, despite showing considerable heart, he did little but prove his own deficits as a fighter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting points &#8211; however I don&#8217;t believe Guida was &#8220;brilliant&#8221; in defeat.  In fact, despite showing considerable heart, he did little but prove his own deficits as a fighter.</p>
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		<title>By: mu_shin</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-72803</link>
		<dc:creator>mu_shin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with the basic premise of this thread, that someone did lose this fight and the winner deserves adequate credit for the victory, I have difficulty when fans and journalists start getting hung up on what kind of person a fighter might be as opposed to how the fighters comported themselves in the ring.  

    I couldn&#039;t care less how Diego Sanchez acts, other than how he applies focus and technique in his fights to achieve victory.  If you don&#039;t approve of a fighter jumping up and down in the ring after a fight, and think that is indicative of some kind of character flaw, you&#039;re reading way too much into subjective actions, and not paying near enough attention to the meat and potatoes of the fight game.  

    Personally, I thought Sanchez won a very close fight.  I watched it twice, and thought Diego took rounds one and three.  As a fan, I&#039;m into ground work and wrestling, favor technique over punching power, and find Clay Guida to be a very exciting fighter, but Diego put it to him, and deserves recognition for a tough, entertaining win.  

    Where no one lost in this fight is in fan appreciation; if they really understand this sport and recognize the will of a warrior, then both of these combatants were praiseworthy.  Why the need to minimize the effort of the fighter who lost, when he gave a huge, entertaining, brilliant performance in a fight that highlighted all the elemental aspects of MMA at such a high level?  Sanchez won, great victory, Guida lost, still a great fight, and I&#039;d watch Clay again any time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with the basic premise of this thread, that someone did lose this fight and the winner deserves adequate credit for the victory, I have difficulty when fans and journalists start getting hung up on what kind of person a fighter might be as opposed to how the fighters comported themselves in the ring.  </p>
<p>    I couldn&#8217;t care less how Diego Sanchez acts, other than how he applies focus and technique in his fights to achieve victory.  If you don&#8217;t approve of a fighter jumping up and down in the ring after a fight, and think that is indicative of some kind of character flaw, you&#8217;re reading way too much into subjective actions, and not paying near enough attention to the meat and potatoes of the fight game.  </p>
<p>    Personally, I thought Sanchez won a very close fight.  I watched it twice, and thought Diego took rounds one and three.  As a fan, I&#8217;m into ground work and wrestling, favor technique over punching power, and find Clay Guida to be a very exciting fighter, but Diego put it to him, and deserves recognition for a tough, entertaining win.  </p>
<p>    Where no one lost in this fight is in fan appreciation; if they really understand this sport and recognize the will of a warrior, then both of these combatants were praiseworthy.  Why the need to minimize the effort of the fighter who lost, when he gave a huge, entertaining, brilliant performance in a fight that highlighted all the elemental aspects of MMA at such a high level?  Sanchez won, great victory, Guida lost, still a great fight, and I&#8217;d watch Clay again any time.</p>
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		<title>By: AntonK</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-72775</link>
		<dc:creator>AntonK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah - I&#039;m off base, but I picked up on a similar vibe when Sanchez fought Fitch.  Did people praise Sanchez for taking Fitch to a decision even though Fitch outweighed Sanchez by twenty pounds come fight time? 

Most fans, if I recall correctly, were happy that Diego got &quot;crushed&#039; and it solidified their belief that &quot;dirty&quot; was thoroughly &quot;dominated&quot;. 

The hypocrisy here is real and the Sanchez deserves better...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah &#8211; I&#8217;m off base, but I picked up on a similar vibe when Sanchez fought Fitch.  Did people praise Sanchez for taking Fitch to a decision even though Fitch outweighed Sanchez by twenty pounds come fight time? </p>
<p>Most fans, if I recall correctly, were happy that Diego got &#8220;crushed&#8217; and it solidified their belief that &#8220;dirty&#8221; was thoroughly &#8220;dominated&#8221;. </p>
<p>The hypocrisy here is real and the Sanchez deserves better&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: edub</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-72763</link>
		<dc:creator>edub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antonk I dont agree with you fully but who u described already has their hero.

Forrest Griffin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antonk I dont agree with you fully but who u described already has their hero.</p>
<p>Forrest Griffin.</p>
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		<title>By: cocoonofhorror</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-72762</link>
		<dc:creator>cocoonofhorror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are right AntonK.  you are being overly cynical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are right AntonK.  you are being overly cynical.</p>
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		<title>By: AntonK</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-72756</link>
		<dc:creator>AntonK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,


Thanks for writing.  Someone needed to speak the truth and you did it with eloquence.  I felt that Sanchez won every round of the fight.  

I hate to say this, but I think there&#039;s some ignorance and underlying racism at work here (not the judges but the fans).  Guida was the blue collar white guy who got beat by &quot;dirty&quot; Diego.  The thought sickens me but I&#039;m beginning to believe there&#039;s some sad validity to it.

The majority of UFC fans (not mma fans) are drunk, blue collar white guys - and they want a white blue collar hero.  Perhaps I&#039;m being overly cynical, but that&#039;s how I&#039;m beginning to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>Thanks for writing.  Someone needed to speak the truth and you did it with eloquence.  I felt that Sanchez won every round of the fight.  </p>
<p>I hate to say this, but I think there&#8217;s some ignorance and underlying racism at work here (not the judges but the fans).  Guida was the blue collar white guy who got beat by &#8220;dirty&#8221; Diego.  The thought sickens me but I&#8217;m beginning to believe there&#8217;s some sad validity to it.</p>
<p>The majority of UFC fans (not mma fans) are drunk, blue collar white guys &#8211; and they want a white blue collar hero.  Perhaps I&#8217;m being overly cynical, but that&#8217;s how I&#8217;m beginning to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: acidman</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-72716</link>
		<dc:creator>acidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who thinks Clay should of won that fight needs to give their head a shake. I really believe the scoring was a travesty in this case and I am a Guida fan. 


I strongly believe that the judging needs some altering. It appears that if you take down your opponent and stay in top position you are granted a win. I really think Diego was far more aggressive and was executing more damage from his back. I think this was greatly overlooked. Clay was getting pounded while in a dominate position and was rewarded the round. Is there not something wrong with this? You take a beating and win the round? In my mind, Guida should not of won any of those rounds. You should not win a round for holding an opponent in what is considered a dominate position and do very little. In fact if someone is on their back and can avoid damage this should be considered point worthy as well. That in itself is skill. If I were a judge I would balance how I score a round on those factors – How effect was the person who achieved the take down and vice versa, while scoring the take down. Mind you if they had achieved multiple take downs during the round, that would obviously swing the score and take precedence.

There is no question Sanchez won round one. In round two, Guida achieves the take down and attempts some lame gnp which was ineffective. Even with Diego on his back he could do very little except hold him. Diego was battering him from his back and going for submission attempts. If anything Diego was robbed of a better classification for the decision. In my mind there is no way Clay should have come close despite his very valiant effort.

Diego was never in danger. He was far more aggressive, calculated and had his opponent in danger for the majority of the fight. I would of scored the last two rounds in favor of Diego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who thinks Clay should of won that fight needs to give their head a shake. I really believe the scoring was a travesty in this case and I am a Guida fan. </p>
<p>I strongly believe that the judging needs some altering. It appears that if you take down your opponent and stay in top position you are granted a win. I really think Diego was far more aggressive and was executing more damage from his back. I think this was greatly overlooked. Clay was getting pounded while in a dominate position and was rewarded the round. Is there not something wrong with this? You take a beating and win the round? In my mind, Guida should not of won any of those rounds. You should not win a round for holding an opponent in what is considered a dominate position and do very little. In fact if someone is on their back and can avoid damage this should be considered point worthy as well. That in itself is skill. If I were a judge I would balance how I score a round on those factors – How effect was the person who achieved the take down and vice versa, while scoring the take down. Mind you if they had achieved multiple take downs during the round, that would obviously swing the score and take precedence.</p>
<p>There is no question Sanchez won round one. In round two, Guida achieves the take down and attempts some lame gnp which was ineffective. Even with Diego on his back he could do very little except hold him. Diego was battering him from his back and going for submission attempts. If anything Diego was robbed of a better classification for the decision. In my mind there is no way Clay should have come close despite his very valiant effort.</p>
<p>Diego was never in danger. He was far more aggressive, calculated and had his opponent in danger for the majority of the fight. I would of scored the last two rounds in favor of Diego.</p>
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		<title>By: AK47</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-72705</link>
		<dc:creator>AK47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe anyone thinks Guida won that fight. The first round was easily 10-8 for Diego, he obviously won the second round and even when Guida was on top, he mounted little to no offense while having to struggle out of submissions attempts and avoid elbows from the bottom. If you don&#039;t believe me, check out the fightmetric numbers.

As for this story, I agree with the general premise that Diego deserves more credit for being THE winner. Sure Guida impressed by not going down despite having his butt kicked all about the cage; but still, who&#039;s face is going to hurt more the next morning? As for him bouncing up and down, sure, he has to market himself so he can keep getting fights on the main card. Maybe someday he&#039;ll be a fun fighter to watch when he learns to put that energy into knocking somebody out, or even trying a guard pass or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe anyone thinks Guida won that fight. The first round was easily 10-8 for Diego, he obviously won the second round and even when Guida was on top, he mounted little to no offense while having to struggle out of submissions attempts and avoid elbows from the bottom. If you don&#8217;t believe me, check out the fightmetric numbers.</p>
<p>As for this story, I agree with the general premise that Diego deserves more credit for being THE winner. Sure Guida impressed by not going down despite having his butt kicked all about the cage; but still, who&#8217;s face is going to hurt more the next morning? As for him bouncing up and down, sure, he has to market himself so he can keep getting fights on the main card. Maybe someday he&#8217;ll be a fun fighter to watch when he learns to put that energy into knocking somebody out, or even trying a guard pass or two.</p>
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		<title>By: Snoop Dogg</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-72702</link>
		<dc:creator>Snoop Dogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue I have with not just this article but the mindset of you as an MMA fan is the I only praise the winner attitude.  It was a split decision if Guida would have won would you only praise Guida?  

I am a fan of Diego and can&#039;t really stand Guida but the dude kicked some ass Saturday and I am going to give the guy credit were credit is due.  Great fight Guida you showed just how great your wrestling is against a very good wrestler in Sanchez.  Your standup looked improved and your move forward at all cost style is very exciting.  

I was happy with the decision because it was a close fight but I do feel that Diego did a great job of working the high guard and using his elbows from his back and attempting some very decent Kimura&#039;s.  Diego&#039;s stand up was sharp and fast his lead uppercut looks like it is going to be giving a lot of people trouble in the LW division.  I personally think Diego is going to be the next champ and for Guida to do to a split decision shows how good he is.  

Let&#039;s face it off course there is a loser as there is in all fights.  Diego is going to move on towards a title fight as Guida is not. But Guida did not lose any appeal, fans or respect and in the fight game sometimes that&#039;s all that matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue I have with not just this article but the mindset of you as an MMA fan is the I only praise the winner attitude.  It was a split decision if Guida would have won would you only praise Guida?  </p>
<p>I am a fan of Diego and can&#8217;t really stand Guida but the dude kicked some ass Saturday and I am going to give the guy credit were credit is due.  Great fight Guida you showed just how great your wrestling is against a very good wrestler in Sanchez.  Your standup looked improved and your move forward at all cost style is very exciting.  </p>
<p>I was happy with the decision because it was a close fight but I do feel that Diego did a great job of working the high guard and using his elbows from his back and attempting some very decent Kimura&#8217;s.  Diego&#8217;s stand up was sharp and fast his lead uppercut looks like it is going to be giving a lot of people trouble in the LW division.  I personally think Diego is going to be the next champ and for Guida to do to a split decision shows how good he is.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it off course there is a loser as there is in all fights.  Diego is going to move on towards a title fight as Guida is not. But Guida did not lose any appeal, fans or respect and in the fight game sometimes that&#8217;s all that matters.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ Docker</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-72700</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ Docker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And GetItOn you are bang on with your comments about Guida marketing himself. Thats exactly what it is, Griffin did it after the Ortiz fight, and it works, its smart, its fun to watch - so why not. I don&#039;t really see how you can have a problem with it unless you really don&#039;t like Clay Guida, and if you don&#039;t you shouldn&#039;t be writing articles like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And GetItOn you are bang on with your comments about Guida marketing himself. Thats exactly what it is, Griffin did it after the Ortiz fight, and it works, its smart, its fun to watch &#8211; so why not. I don&#8217;t really see how you can have a problem with it unless you really don&#8217;t like Clay Guida, and if you don&#8217;t you shouldn&#8217;t be writing articles like this.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ Docker</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/21/someone-did-lose-the-sanchez-guida-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-72698</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ Docker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the criticisms of this article. Its biased as hell from a someone (a writer?!) that clearly isn&#039;t a fan of Clay Guida, and has no real point. Fighters that show extraordinary heart and determination in losing, especially as underdogs, will always receive praise and admiration from journalists and fans - its why we which sports; to witness commendable, defiant human performances. Guida showed undeniable heart and grit last night to stay in that fight after that 1st round onslaught and turned it into a close decision, lesser fighters, or men, would have crumbled and given up. It would have been very easy to go down after the 6th or 7th shot caught him clean, not to mention a full head kick right on the button.
As for the direction of the fight, I&#039;m pretty sure Sanchez won a very close decision, and that isn&#039;t a nuthuggers perspective as I detest Sanchez as a person and as an MMA figure.

1st Round - to Sanchez, obviously, and I think if I was ringside I would have even given it a 10-8; based on multiple clean shots to the jaw, huge kick knockdown, aggression, damage inflicted.

2nd Round - Guida 10-9. Guida wins the round the way he usually does and that&#039;s by getting his opponents down and keeping them there. He didn&#039;t do any considerable damage but exerted impressive control over a bigger fighter with strong jits.

3rd Round - Sanchez 10-9. I&#039;ve just watched the fight again, twice, and this round is incredibly close to score but I think Sanchez takes it. They start on the feet with both fighters missing tired-looking punches, each taking it in turns to push the action. So until it goes to the ground with 1.50 left I have it exactly even. The reason it goes to the ground is that Guida shoots from way out, comes up short, and Sanchez spins to take his back and attempts a choke which fails. Guida is then on top and for the next 30 seconds half-lands 2 shots to the head and 3 weak shots to the body before Sanchez goes for a Kimura with a minute left. Sanchez tries for this until there is 10 seconds left at which point Guida escapes throws a few wild punches and Sanchez gets to his feet as the bell goes. Ultimately, the fight almost hinges on this last 2 minutes (unless you have Sanchez 10-8 in the 1st, as I do) and it depends on whether you give Guida the points for being on top but not doing much apart from defending a Kimura OR Sanchez the points for stuffing Guidas takedown, attempting a choke and then later a Kimura. I give it to Sanchez as I felt he, with his submission attempts, was trying to win the fight, while Guida was effectively laying on him from the 3.30 mark.

Result - Sanchez 29-27.

I admit that both the 10-8 is debatable and that the last round is debatable. But unless you disagree with both, Sanchez won the fight. In my opinion it&#039;s difficult at the end of the fight, looking at both fighters, to say Guida won. For those of you that think Guida was &quot;robbed&quot; are wrong, but it was a veryclose fight. Props to both fighters for the fight though; an absolute war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the criticisms of this article. Its biased as hell from a someone (a writer?!) that clearly isn&#8217;t a fan of Clay Guida, and has no real point. Fighters that show extraordinary heart and determination in losing, especially as underdogs, will always receive praise and admiration from journalists and fans &#8211; its why we which sports; to witness commendable, defiant human performances. Guida showed undeniable heart and grit last night to stay in that fight after that 1st round onslaught and turned it into a close decision, lesser fighters, or men, would have crumbled and given up. It would have been very easy to go down after the 6th or 7th shot caught him clean, not to mention a full head kick right on the button.<br />
As for the direction of the fight, I&#8217;m pretty sure Sanchez won a very close decision, and that isn&#8217;t a nuthuggers perspective as I detest Sanchez as a person and as an MMA figure.</p>
<p>1st Round &#8211; to Sanchez, obviously, and I think if I was ringside I would have even given it a 10-8; based on multiple clean shots to the jaw, huge kick knockdown, aggression, damage inflicted.</p>
<p>2nd Round &#8211; Guida 10-9. Guida wins the round the way he usually does and that&#8217;s by getting his opponents down and keeping them there. He didn&#8217;t do any considerable damage but exerted impressive control over a bigger fighter with strong jits.</p>
<p>3rd Round &#8211; Sanchez 10-9. I&#8217;ve just watched the fight again, twice, and this round is incredibly close to score but I think Sanchez takes it. They start on the feet with both fighters missing tired-looking punches, each taking it in turns to push the action. So until it goes to the ground with 1.50 left I have it exactly even. The reason it goes to the ground is that Guida shoots from way out, comes up short, and Sanchez spins to take his back and attempts a choke which fails. Guida is then on top and for the next 30 seconds half-lands 2 shots to the head and 3 weak shots to the body before Sanchez goes for a Kimura with a minute left. Sanchez tries for this until there is 10 seconds left at which point Guida escapes throws a few wild punches and Sanchez gets to his feet as the bell goes. Ultimately, the fight almost hinges on this last 2 minutes (unless you have Sanchez 10-8 in the 1st, as I do) and it depends on whether you give Guida the points for being on top but not doing much apart from defending a Kimura OR Sanchez the points for stuffing Guidas takedown, attempting a choke and then later a Kimura. I give it to Sanchez as I felt he, with his submission attempts, was trying to win the fight, while Guida was effectively laying on him from the 3.30 mark.</p>
<p>Result &#8211; Sanchez 29-27.</p>
<p>I admit that both the 10-8 is debatable and that the last round is debatable. But unless you disagree with both, Sanchez won the fight. In my opinion it&#8217;s difficult at the end of the fight, looking at both fighters, to say Guida won. For those of you that think Guida was &#8220;robbed&#8221; are wrong, but it was a veryclose fight. Props to both fighters for the fight though; an absolute war.</p>
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