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	<title>Comments on: Tito Ortiz close to signing four-fight deal with Strikeforce, possible first bout with Babalu in October</title>
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		<title>By: edub</title>
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		<dc:creator>edub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cocoon are you being serious.</description>
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		<title>By: cocoonofhorror</title>
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		<dc:creator>cocoonofhorror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Machida is vastly overrated.</description>
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		<title>By: PlagueAngel</title>
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		<dc:creator>PlagueAngel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tito is a big guy and I bet he walks around at 215 or 220. I think a catch weight between him and any heavyweight would be entertaining. But lets see some plan of action. Lets see him fight and impress before Fedor. Tito just likes the spotlight and the cameras. I like fights and not Hollywood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tito is a big guy and I bet he walks around at 215 or 220. I think a catch weight between him and any heavyweight would be entertaining. But lets see some plan of action. Lets see him fight and impress before Fedor. Tito just likes the spotlight and the cameras. I like fights and not Hollywood.</p>
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		<title>By: PlagueAngel</title>
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		<dc:creator>PlagueAngel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t say my feelings for Ortiz is pathetic. Just holding the guy accountable for his antics and actions. Where are my factual errors on Ortiz? Next time instead of saying I&#039;m wrong, put it in your post. Ortiz has not won a fight since Oct 2006. That is near 33 months ago. He also called UFC fighters slaves to the UFC during the 84 press conferance. He was refering to money(I believe), but these are fighters and not slaves to a corporation. I don&#039;t have a personal hatred for the guy because I don&#039;t know him. What I do know his that the guy is a clown and that he talks a lot of shit for not having any kind of current impact on MMA. He calls out all these fighters and never fights. I do admit to bashing him on other posts, but I do that because its easy and I like it. Its fun to poke at a clown and throw things at them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say my feelings for Ortiz is pathetic. Just holding the guy accountable for his antics and actions. Where are my factual errors on Ortiz? Next time instead of saying I&#8217;m wrong, put it in your post. Ortiz has not won a fight since Oct 2006. That is near 33 months ago. He also called UFC fighters slaves to the UFC during the 84 press conferance. He was refering to money(I believe), but these are fighters and not slaves to a corporation. I don&#8217;t have a personal hatred for the guy because I don&#8217;t know him. What I do know his that the guy is a clown and that he talks a lot of shit for not having any kind of current impact on MMA. He calls out all these fighters and never fights. I do admit to bashing him on other posts, but I do that because its easy and I like it. Its fun to poke at a clown and throw things at them.</p>
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		<title>By: meatloaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>meatloaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tito doesn’t have the size to grapple with Fedor.&quot; 
Listen I know people get confused by weight classes thinking one guy is too small to compete with this guy in a higher weight class.
As was the case in the Diaz/Frank Shamrock fight. People thought Diaz was going to be out sized because Frank fights at middleweight and as it turned out Diaz was the bigger fighter.
This is another case of that. Go back and look at the pictures of the Affliction Day of Reckoning press conference with Tito and Fedor together. Tito is the larger man. He cuts weight to make 205. And no I&#039;m not saying Tito wins so don&#039;t try and twist my comments around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tito doesn’t have the size to grapple with Fedor.&#8221;<br />
Listen I know people get confused by weight classes thinking one guy is too small to compete with this guy in a higher weight class.<br />
As was the case in the Diaz/Frank Shamrock fight. People thought Diaz was going to be out sized because Frank fights at middleweight and as it turned out Diaz was the bigger fighter.<br />
This is another case of that. Go back and look at the pictures of the Affliction Day of Reckoning press conference with Tito and Fedor together. Tito is the larger man. He cuts weight to make 205. And no I&#8217;m not saying Tito wins so don&#8217;t try and twist my comments around.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll give Tito a lot of latitude, but the idea that he could compete with Fedor is silly.  If Fedor was motivated, that fight would be shorter than his fight with Sylvia.  Tito doesn&#039;t have the size to grapple with Fedor, and he damn sure doesn&#039;t have the chin to strike with him.  I&#039;m not sure anybody does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll give Tito a lot of latitude, but the idea that he could compete with Fedor is silly.  If Fedor was motivated, that fight would be shorter than his fight with Sylvia.  Tito doesn&#8217;t have the size to grapple with Fedor, and he damn sure doesn&#8217;t have the chin to strike with him.  I&#8217;m not sure anybody does.</p>
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		<title>By: meatloaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>meatloaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who the hell is this PlagueAngel? You obviously have a personal vendetta against Ortiz because you have gone out of your way to bash him in numerous posts.
You&#039;ve done it repeatedly in past topics many of which had nothing to do with Ortiz but you seemed to steer the topic around to your personal hatred for the guy anyway. It&#039;s pathetic.

Whether you hate his personality or you&#039;re just a Dana White mark the bottom line is he&#039;s a legend in this sport and held a UFC Championship longer than anyone else in history. 
Also you should do a little research before posting some of the comments you&#039;ve made because your posts contain many factual errors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who the hell is this PlagueAngel? You obviously have a personal vendetta against Ortiz because you have gone out of your way to bash him in numerous posts.<br />
You&#8217;ve done it repeatedly in past topics many of which had nothing to do with Ortiz but you seemed to steer the topic around to your personal hatred for the guy anyway. It&#8217;s pathetic.</p>
<p>Whether you hate his personality or you&#8217;re just a Dana White mark the bottom line is he&#8217;s a legend in this sport and held a UFC Championship longer than anyone else in history.<br />
Also you should do a little research before posting some of the comments you&#8217;ve made because your posts contain many factual errors.</p>
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		<title>By: mu_shin</title>
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		<dc:creator>mu_shin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a celebrity/personality, Tito may be wanting, but as the all-time leader in title defenses for the lightheavy weight division of the UFC, he remains a formidable former champion.  

    If Tito can recover from the surgery he went through last October, re-enter full time MMA training, and bring his full attention to fighting, he could definitely give the LHW division in Strikeforce a major boost.  That is if this purported deal with Strikeforce actually materializes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a celebrity/personality, Tito may be wanting, but as the all-time leader in title defenses for the lightheavy weight division of the UFC, he remains a formidable former champion.  </p>
<p>    If Tito can recover from the surgery he went through last October, re-enter full time MMA training, and bring his full attention to fighting, he could definitely give the LHW division in Strikeforce a major boost.  That is if this purported deal with Strikeforce actually materializes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.Stoppage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.Stoppage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn I almost hate to say it,but I&#039;ll admit it&#039;ll be awesome to see Tito fight again,especially in another organization.
I just can&#039;t decide whether I want to see him kick ass or get ass kicked.
Either way, I&#039;ll buy the PPV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn I almost hate to say it,but I&#8217;ll admit it&#8217;ll be awesome to see Tito fight again,especially in another organization.<br />
I just can&#8217;t decide whether I want to see him kick ass or get ass kicked.<br />
Either way, I&#8217;ll buy the PPV.</p>
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		<title>By: edub</title>
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		<dc:creator>edub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All shit talking aside... Im not a huge fan of Tito. I just feel the need to argue when people call him a can which he is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All shit talking aside&#8230; Im not a huge fan of Tito. I just feel the need to argue when people call him a can which he is not.</p>
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		<title>By: edub</title>
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		<dc:creator>edub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To quote Dana White&quot; you lost me there.

Oh wait I came back to &quot;dangerious&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To quote Dana White&#8221; you lost me there.</p>
<p>Oh wait I came back to &#8220;dangerious&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: PlagueAngel</title>
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		<dc:creator>PlagueAngel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote Dana White at the UFC 84 press conferance. &quot;Tito wants to be a superstar, these guys want to be fighters&quot;. Ortiz embarrissed himself against Machida. The pre fight trash talk, the weigh-in t-shirt, the sunglasses, his performance, and especially the after fight press conferance. I have Chuck and Wandy ahead of Ortiz because they fight. Instead of claiming to be king of the world, they try to earn their reputation. Ortiz is all talk and no results. Calling UFC fighters &quot;slaves&quot; is pathetic in my book.

Also, I don&#039;t think Fedor will be concerned about Tito&#039;s &quot;dangerious&quot; elbows. Fedor has evolved him game beyond his match 8 years ago against Arona. Ortiz has shown very little evolution in the last four years imo. How anyone can defend Ortiz at this point is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote Dana White at the UFC 84 press conferance. &#8220;Tito wants to be a superstar, these guys want to be fighters&#8221;. Ortiz embarrissed himself against Machida. The pre fight trash talk, the weigh-in t-shirt, the sunglasses, his performance, and especially the after fight press conferance. I have Chuck and Wandy ahead of Ortiz because they fight. Instead of claiming to be king of the world, they try to earn their reputation. Ortiz is all talk and no results. Calling UFC fighters &#8220;slaves&#8221; is pathetic in my book.</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t think Fedor will be concerned about Tito&#8217;s &#8220;dangerious&#8221; elbows. Fedor has evolved him game beyond his match 8 years ago against Arona. Ortiz has shown very little evolution in the last four years imo. How anyone can defend Ortiz at this point is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: edub</title>
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		<dc:creator>edub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Plague guy my top ten is this(btw i said if he beats bablu hes top ten)
1.Lyoto
2.Rashad
3.Forrest
4.Rampage
5.Shogun
6.Cane
7.Rich
8.Jardine
9.Silva
10.Babalu(If Babalu gets by Mousasi and Tito beats him he takes his spot)

His Ground Game is great but so is Tito&#039;s especially on top. Ricardo Arona controlled Fedor for most of the fight, so Tito (&quot;could&quot;) do the same. Probably not but could.Tito is also a much stronger wrestler than Arona, and Fedor has never had to deal with the elbows from a wrestler the Caliber of Tito.


And to your last point &quot;He was embarrased by Machida&quot;...EVERYONE is embarrassed by Machida.

So Btw dark angel whats ur top ten u still got wandy and chuck in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Plague guy my top ten is this(btw i said if he beats bablu hes top ten)<br />
1.Lyoto<br />
2.Rashad<br />
3.Forrest<br />
4.Rampage<br />
5.Shogun<br />
6.Cane<br />
7.Rich<br />
8.Jardine<br />
9.Silva<br />
10.Babalu(If Babalu gets by Mousasi and Tito beats him he takes his spot)</p>
<p>His Ground Game is great but so is Tito&#8217;s especially on top. Ricardo Arona controlled Fedor for most of the fight, so Tito (&#8220;could&#8221;) do the same. Probably not but could.Tito is also a much stronger wrestler than Arona, and Fedor has never had to deal with the elbows from a wrestler the Caliber of Tito.</p>
<p>And to your last point &#8220;He was embarrased by Machida&#8221;&#8230;EVERYONE is embarrassed by Machida.</p>
<p>So Btw dark angel whats ur top ten u still got wandy and chuck in there.</p>
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		<title>By: PlagueAngel</title>
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		<dc:creator>PlagueAngel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is NOT top ten. No wins in 33 months takes him out of competition. Who is in your top 10 &quot;edub&quot;? I mean, good god man. He does not matchup well against Fedor. Fedor&#039;s clinch, striking, and ground game are light years ahead of Ortiz. He was embarrissed in front of everyone against Machida. He is the clown prince of MMA with his antics and trash talking. If Ortiz is in great shape, his ground and pound is always dangerious. If he does not sign with Strikeforce soon, what little credibility he has left will be put into the shitcan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is NOT top ten. No wins in 33 months takes him out of competition. Who is in your top 10 &#8220;edub&#8221;? I mean, good god man. He does not matchup well against Fedor. Fedor&#8217;s clinch, striking, and ground game are light years ahead of Ortiz. He was embarrissed in front of everyone against Machida. He is the clown prince of MMA with his antics and trash talking. If Ortiz is in great shape, his ground and pound is always dangerious. If he does not sign with Strikeforce soon, what little credibility he has left will be put into the shitcan.</p>
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		<title>By: edub</title>
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		<dc:creator>edub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides Fedor and GSP.</description>
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		<title>By: edub</title>
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		<dc:creator>edub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Machida embarrases EVERYONE. He is leagues above everyother fighter in MMA.</description>
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		<title>By: Jstew3785</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jstew3785</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other than the triangle/armbar attempt, Machida embarrased him too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other than the triangle/armbar attempt, Machida embarrased him too.</p>
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		<title>By: edub</title>
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		<dc:creator>edub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy is still a badass fighter top ten imo after he smashes(lnps) babalu.

Tito has only ever been embarrassed by two fighters after the F.Shamrock fight. Randy and Chuck who are absolute nightmare matchups for him. He beat Forrest, Fucked himself over against Rashad, and lost to Lyoto. Hell be back and he matches up well with every 205er not in the UFC and he matches up with Fedor well(see the Ricardo Arona fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy is still a badass fighter top ten imo after he smashes(lnps) babalu.</p>
<p>Tito has only ever been embarrassed by two fighters after the F.Shamrock fight. Randy and Chuck who are absolute nightmare matchups for him. He beat Forrest, Fucked himself over against Rashad, and lost to Lyoto. Hell be back and he matches up well with every 205er not in the UFC and he matches up with Fedor well(see the Ricardo Arona fight.</p>
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		<title>By: dpk</title>
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		<dc:creator>dpk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever, not too interesting.  There will be a few good fights for Tito in Strikeforce, but I&#039;m not going out of my way to watch a Strikeforce card with Tito on it anymore than I would watch it without him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever, not too interesting.  There will be a few good fights for Tito in Strikeforce, but I&#8217;m not going out of my way to watch a Strikeforce card with Tito on it anymore than I would watch it without him.</p>
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		<title>By: Jstew3785</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/28/tito-ortiz-close-to-signing-four-fight-deal-with-strikeforce-possible-first-bout-with-babalu-in-october/comment-page-1/#comment-76525</link>
		<dc:creator>Jstew3785</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish the lord would take Tito Ortiz wherever he is right now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish the lord would take Tito Ortiz wherever he is right now</p>
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