Comments on: Shane Carwin vs. Cain Velasquez set for UFC 104 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 27 May 2012 01:07:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Patrickk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-90383 Patrickk Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:14:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-90383 Sorry guys, Cain isn't ready for the big league yet. He has horrible hands. Unless he develops a fighting style like GSP or Brock, he's destined to be a upper-middle-tier fighter. Carwin is going to thrash him. Carwin by KO 1st round Sorry guys, Cain isn’t ready for the big league yet. He has horrible hands. Unless he develops a fighting style like GSP or Brock, he’s destined to be a upper-middle-tier fighter.

Carwin is going to thrash him.

Carwin by KO 1st round

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]]> By: bizzarmg http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-89357 bizzarmg Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:46:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-89357 Cain is garbage. I hope Shane knocks him out. But I think Brock would rock Shane or Cain whoever fights him out of the two. Who could beat Brock Lesnar right now since he beat Mir? Opinions anyone? Cain is garbage. I hope Shane knocks him out. But I think Brock would rock Shane or Cain whoever fights him out of the two. Who could beat Brock Lesnar right now since he beat Mir? Opinions anyone?

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]]> By: Shane Carwin speaks on UFC 104 showdown with Cain Velasquez; A 5 Oz. Exclusive : Five Ounces of Pain http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-85840 Shane Carwin speaks on UFC 104 showdown with Cain Velasquez; A 5 Oz. Exclusive : Five Ounces of Pain Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:34:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-85840 [...] were mixed emotions among the mixed martial arts community when 5 Oz. recently revealed that fellow undefeated heavyweight prospects Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez would be butting heads [...] [...] were mixed emotions among the mixed martial arts community when 5 Oz. recently revealed that fellow undefeated heavyweight prospects Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez would be butting heads [...]

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]]> By: Kickastronaut http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-83421 Kickastronaut Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:11:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-83421 I didn't finish reading the comments, so I don't know if this was answered. PlaqueAngel, I believe he's been spending time at Greg Jackson's camp. Although I'm not sure for how long and for what amount of time he trains. But this is good for him and the other fighters there imo. Carwin before entering as a competitor was sought after by others in his area to help them train before being convinced to compete himself. I'm sure he has alot to offer fighters like Rashad, GSP, Marquardt, etc. And they'll probably help back as they all specialize at certain aspects of the sport. Plus a stratagist like Greg Jackson could set his game up well. Against Cain, I don't think Cain can do it, which is fine. I really like Cain and have jumped on his hype train, but where Kongo couldn't stuff a take down, if Carwin stuffs 2-3 and successfully follows with hard shots coming out of a clinch situation, he'll put him to the floor. Cain needs more time to develop his game, but keep giving him tough opponents and the ufc will watch their investment in him pay off. I didn’t finish reading the comments, so I don’t know if this was answered. PlaqueAngel, I believe he’s been spending time at Greg Jackson’s camp. Although I’m not sure for how long and for what amount of time he trains.

But this is good for him and the other fighters there imo. Carwin before entering as a competitor was sought after by others in his area to help them train before being convinced to compete himself. I’m sure he has alot to offer fighters like Rashad, GSP, Marquardt, etc. And they’ll probably help back as they all specialize at certain aspects of the sport. Plus a stratagist like Greg Jackson could set his game up well.

Against Cain, I don’t think Cain can do it, which is fine. I really like Cain and have jumped on his hype train, but where Kongo couldn’t stuff a take down, if Carwin stuffs 2-3 and successfully follows with hard shots coming out of a clinch situation, he’ll put him to the floor. Cain needs more time to develop his game, but keep giving him tough opponents and the ufc will watch their investment in him pay off.

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]]> By: DansMuayThaiMMA http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-82244 DansMuayThaiMMA Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:10:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-82244 I'm thinking Carwin will end up winning via ground and pound. I'm a big Shane Carwin fan, I hope he destroys him and gets a title shot. I’m thinking Carwin will end up winning via ground and pound. I’m a big Shane Carwin fan, I hope he destroys him and gets a title shot.

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]]> By: MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-82031 MMA-LOGIC Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:19:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-82031 I predict that Carwin will win by head kick or triangle choke. LOL I predict that Carwin will win by head kick or triangle choke. LOL

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-79461 edub Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:22:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-79461 Not Ocean front property in Arizona, a ski resort in Texas. Not Ocean front property in Arizona, a ski resort in Texas.

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]]> By: cocoonofhorror http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-78540 cocoonofhorror Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:08:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-78540 LMAO!!!! the man spends 3 to 4 hours every fucking day in the gym. great, hes an engineer, so what? many engineers work from home. SC is training full time, period. LMAO!!!! the man spends 3 to 4 hours every fucking day in the gym. great, hes an engineer, so what? many engineers work from home. SC is training full time, period.

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]]> By: Ft. Dub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-78348 Ft. Dub Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:17:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-78348 Can we get a decent f-ing headline fight for UFC 103 in Dallas? I’m so excited they’re finally coming to DFW, but it seems like they’re stacking the card with third rate fighters. Can we get a decent f-ing headline fight for UFC 103 in Dallas? I’m so excited they’re finally coming to DFW, but it seems like they’re stacking the card with third rate fighters.

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-78229 Jstew3785 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:51:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-78229 What's that real estate proposal? Ocean front property in Arizona....... What’s that real estate proposal? Ocean front property in Arizona…….

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]]> By: dpk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-78052 dpk Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:03:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-78052 This is an awesome fight, and will establish a ranking among the up and coming HWs in the UFC. I'd like to see Dos Santos fight Gonzaga or Herring when he is done KO'ing McCully. I see Carwin winning by KO, his power is just going to be too much, and he has shown that he can take some punishment, come back and only needs to land once. Velasquez doesn't have the 1 punch power to match Carwin, and while I think Cain has better wrestling, I think Carwin's is good enough to stuff some of the takedowns and get back to standing. This is an awesome fight, and will establish a ranking among the up and coming HWs in the UFC. I’d like to see Dos Santos fight Gonzaga or Herring when he is done KO’ing McCully.

I see Carwin winning by KO, his power is just going to be too much, and he has shown that he can take some punishment, come back and only needs to land once. Velasquez doesn’t have the 1 punch power to match Carwin, and while I think Cain has better wrestling, I think Carwin’s is good enough to stuff some of the takedowns and get back to standing.

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]]> By: PlagueAngel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-77905 PlagueAngel Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:19:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-77905 Carwin is an engineer who works full time. Maybe he uses that to "fool" other fighters. I suppose he could train full time and work, but he has a family and children so you have to wonder how much time he puts into his MMA training. Now about that real estate proposal...hmmm. Carwin is an engineer who works full time. Maybe he uses that to “fool” other fighters. I suppose he could train full time and work, but he has a family and children so you have to wonder how much time he puts into his MMA training. Now about that real estate proposal…hmmm.

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]]> By: cocoonofhorror http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-77873 cocoonofhorror Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:17:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-77873 if you guys really believe that Carwin doesnt train full time, i got a real estate proposal for you.... if you guys really believe that Carwin doesnt train full time, i got a real estate proposal for you….

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]]> By: meatloaf http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-77772 meatloaf Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:29:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-77772 October 11th is a Sunday. Strikeforce is going to have events on Sundays during football season? October 11th is a Sunday.

Strikeforce is going to have events on Sundays during football season?

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]]> By: PlagueAngel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-77668 PlagueAngel Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:05:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-77668 Just talked to Brett Rogers tonight. He will fight Overeem for the title and it will be Aug.15 or October.11. Great fight Just talked to Brett Rogers tonight. He will fight Overeem for the title and it will be Aug.15 or October.11. Great fight

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-77667 edub Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:04:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-77667 Cain by de. when Carwin tires out. Write that down. Cain by de. when Carwin tires out. Write that down.

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]]> By: sigmund http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-77663 sigmund Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:57:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-77663 i kinda figured it was a matter of time before this one went down. Better late then never i spose. this is gonna be a hell of a fight. I think Carwin will win this one. although I can see a younger Cain holding stronger if the fight makes into later rounds(which i doubt it will) but who knows havent seen carwin go past the first. Can't wait either way i kinda figured it was a matter of time before this one went down. Better late then never i spose. this is gonna be a hell of a fight. I think Carwin will win this one. although I can see a younger Cain holding stronger if the fight makes into later rounds(which i doubt it will) but who knows havent seen carwin go past the first. Can’t wait either way

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-77656 Jstew3785 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:49:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-77656 Carwin didn't go down... he was taken down. Big difference. He was hurt by the punch obviously, but he never went down until Gonzaga swept his leg out from under him. Cain got hit on the chin and was dropped to the mat. Carwin trains with Greg Jackson's camp. I think his main training partners are Nate Marquardt and Eliot Marshall. Not sure if he is training full time yet though if he isn't, he should start for this fight. Carwin didn’t go down… he was taken down. Big difference. He was hurt by the punch obviously, but he never went down until Gonzaga swept his leg out from under him. Cain got hit on the chin and was dropped to the mat.
Carwin trains with Greg Jackson’s camp. I think his main training partners are Nate Marquardt and Eliot Marshall. Not sure if he is training full time yet though if he isn’t, he should start for this fight.

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]]> By: PlagueAngel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-77650 PlagueAngel Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:43:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-77650 Its tough to say if Cain has a weak chin after the Kongo fight. I think its put into question because he went down a few times. Cain has finished all his fights from strikes/TKO before Kongo. His striking has looked above average in most of his fights. I think four months is enough time to get heavier and improve on boxing. I think both fighters will be put to the test on this fight. Carwin went down like a ton of bricks from Gonzaga right away and recovered, so I wouldn't jump to conclusion that he has a weak chin. I will admit that Carwin will be the favorite coming into the fight. Its tough to say if Cain has a weak chin after the Kongo fight. I think its put into question because he went down a few times. Cain has finished all his fights from strikes/TKO before Kongo. His striking has looked above average in most of his fights. I think four months is enough time to get heavier and improve on boxing. I think both fighters will be put to the test on this fight. Carwin went down like a ton of bricks from Gonzaga right away and recovered, so I wouldn’t jump to conclusion that he has a weak chin. I will admit that Carwin will be the favorite coming into the fight.

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]]> By: Kamakosmo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/01/shane-carwin-vs-cain-velasquez-set-for-ufc-104/comment-page-1/#comment-77628 Kamakosmo Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:16:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15256#comment-77628 "PlaqueAngel" Besides, UFC 104 isn't until Oct. 24th. Is 4 months not enough time to train? “PlaqueAngel” Besides, UFC 104 isn’t until Oct. 24th. Is 4 months not enough time to train?

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