Comments on: Rickson Gracie: ‘It would take me longer to submit Fedor than it would [Brock Lesnar]‘ http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/14/rickson-gracie-it-would-take-me-longer-to-submit-fedor-than-it-would-brock-lesnar/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:22:39 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Satori http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/14/rickson-gracie-it-would-take-me-longer-to-submit-fedor-than-it-would-brock-lesnar/comment-page-1/#comment-128228 Satori Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:52:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15480#comment-128228 It is easy for people who are arm chair athletes to post comments and crude remarks about different fighters. Theodore Roosevelt once said, "It's not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or when the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who at the worst if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat."—Theodore Roosevelt On another note... Having trained with Rickson Gracie and his instructors for over 12 years, I can tell you that he is even better than he was in 2000 during his last professional fight. I don't doubt that Rickson could take on and beat either of those fighters. However, he has nothing left to prove to anyone, in my opinion. The hard thing about being a professional fighter is that there will always be haters no matter how many times you prove yourself. Eventually, age catches up with all of us. It is part of life. The problem with today's generation is that they don't "respect" the aging population the way people used to. What about his past accomplishments? That should count for something, right? Every fighter deserves the option of retirement at some point in their career. This is especially true of someone like Rickson Gracie because of all that he has done. If Rickson were to choose to fight again, then great. If he chooses to stay in retirement then people should respect that. The man is 50 years old. Rickson is a legend and those who have had the opportunity to be on the mat with him know how good he still is. Those who have not, will keep on guessing "what if", or hating. It doesn't matter. It doesn't add to or take away from the man, the legend, Rickson Gracie. Show some respect. It is easy for people who are arm chair athletes to post comments and crude remarks about different fighters. Theodore Roosevelt once said,
“It’s not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or when the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who at the worst if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat.”—Theodore Roosevelt

On another note… Having trained with Rickson Gracie and his instructors for over 12 years, I can tell you that he is even better than he was in 2000 during his last professional fight. I don’t doubt that Rickson could take on and beat either of those fighters. However, he has nothing left to prove to anyone, in my opinion. The hard thing about being a professional fighter is that there will always be haters no matter how many times you prove yourself. Eventually, age catches up with all of us. It is part of life. The problem with today’s generation is that they don’t “respect” the aging population the way people used to. What about his past accomplishments? That should count for something, right? Every fighter deserves the option of retirement at some point in their career. This is especially true of someone like Rickson Gracie because of all that he has done.

If Rickson were to choose to fight again, then great. If he chooses to stay in retirement then people should respect that. The man is 50 years old. Rickson is a legend and those who have had the opportunity to be on the mat with him know how good he still is. Those who have not, will keep on guessing “what if”, or hating. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t add to or take away from the man, the legend, Rickson Gracie. Show some respect.

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]]> By: Patrickk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/14/rickson-gracie-it-would-take-me-longer-to-submit-fedor-than-it-would-brock-lesnar/comment-page-1/#comment-90802 Patrickk Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:41:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15480#comment-90802 I kind of believe him, and then on the other hand, I'm like, okay you're 50 years old. I'd like to see them in a submission grappling match. I don't think Rickson would last in a real MMA match against either one of them though. I kind of believe him, and then on the other hand, I’m like, okay you’re 50 years old. I’d like to see them in a submission grappling match. I don’t think Rickson would last in a real MMA match against either one of them though.

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]]> By: MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/14/rickson-gracie-it-would-take-me-longer-to-submit-fedor-than-it-would-brock-lesnar/comment-page-1/#comment-86693 MMA-LOGIC Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:11:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15480#comment-86693 I could do it but him...never!. I could do it but him…never!.

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]]> By: biggmoney21 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/14/rickson-gracie-it-would-take-me-longer-to-submit-fedor-than-it-would-brock-lesnar/comment-page-1/#comment-85449 biggmoney21 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:39:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15480#comment-85449 I want what he's smokin'! Hits from the bong, baby. I want what he’s smokin’! Hits from the bong, baby.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/14/rickson-gracie-it-would-take-me-longer-to-submit-fedor-than-it-would-brock-lesnar/comment-page-1/#comment-85102 Rich S. Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:22:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15480#comment-85102 Shoot.. I believe the 400-0 thing.. I mean, it could be against horrible competition, or merely Jiu Jitsu matches.. It could even be including street fights (he seems to use random punks to prove the power of GJJ).. I've only seen him fight like 2 or 3 times, and he was extremely strong, fast, and just bewildered his opponents.. But, honestly, he would lose to Fedor AND Brock.. ESPECIALLY NOW that he's old.. I'm sure his BJJ hasn't changed, but his chin most definitely has.. Sure, these are crazy claims as it is, but they're even crazier when coming from an older man, who hasn't competed in a decade.. Shoot.. I believe the 400-0 thing.. I mean, it could be against horrible competition, or merely Jiu Jitsu matches.. It could even be including street fights (he seems to use random punks to prove the power of GJJ)..

I’ve only seen him fight like 2 or 3 times, and he was extremely strong, fast, and just bewildered his opponents..

But, honestly, he would lose to Fedor AND Brock.. ESPECIALLY NOW that he’s old.. I’m sure his BJJ hasn’t changed, but his chin most definitely has..

Sure, these are crazy claims as it is, but they’re even crazier when coming from an older man, who hasn’t competed in a decade..

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/14/rickson-gracie-it-would-take-me-longer-to-submit-fedor-than-it-would-brock-lesnar/comment-page-1/#comment-85097 edub Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:57:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15480#comment-85097 Rickson never wanted to fight Sakuraba in his prime let alone the giants of the division today. I would pay a lot of money to see him fight Dan Severn. Rickson never wanted to fight Sakuraba in his prime let alone the giants of the division today.

I would pay a lot of money to see him fight Dan Severn.

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]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/14/rickson-gracie-it-would-take-me-longer-to-submit-fedor-than-it-would-brock-lesnar/comment-page-1/#comment-85024 Angry Mike Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:43:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15480#comment-85024 Gotta hype the family brand. Mind on his money and his money on his mind. Gotta hype the family brand. Mind on his money and his money on his mind.

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/14/rickson-gracie-it-would-take-me-longer-to-submit-fedor-than-it-would-brock-lesnar/comment-page-1/#comment-85008 Sergio Hernandez Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:05:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15480#comment-85008 The day MMA sites stop paying attention to Rickson's ridiculous claims will be a happy day for me. No one cares about the old man anymore. He should spend less time talking about how he can submit the best fighters in the world and more time trying to convince everyone that Ron Tripp didn't drop him on his ass to beat him. -- twitter.com/sergio_tx The day MMA sites stop paying attention to Rickson’s ridiculous claims will be a happy day for me.

No one cares about the old man anymore. He should spend less time talking about how he can submit the best fighters in the world and more time trying to convince everyone that Ron Tripp didn’t drop him on his ass to beat him.

– twitter.com/sergio_tx

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]]> By: Gurthee http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/14/rickson-gracie-it-would-take-me-longer-to-submit-fedor-than-it-would-brock-lesnar/comment-page-1/#comment-84942 Gurthee Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:03:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15480#comment-84942 No offense, but I think he's taken a few too many upside his head. Both would put him to sleep before he had a chance to try a sub. 400-0? Ok Superman. I think all of the Gracies are delusional. Sure you all are major contributors to the world of BJJ and MMA but c'mon, get a grip. No offense, but I think he’s taken a few too many upside his head. Both would put him to sleep before he had a chance to try a sub. 400-0? Ok Superman. I think all of the Gracies are delusional. Sure you all are major contributors to the world of BJJ and MMA but c’mon, get a grip.

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]]> By: PlagueAngel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/14/rickson-gracie-it-would-take-me-longer-to-submit-fedor-than-it-would-brock-lesnar/comment-page-1/#comment-84934 PlagueAngel Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:01:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15480#comment-84934 Good statements MMAMoneyLine/Ozz. I was a student at one of his schools and his family theories are the reason why I left. Gi Jiu-Jitsu is lame and the theories of Hickson are obsolute. Even though he teaches good techniques and body health, the evolution of mixed martial arts are ever changing. Hickson also had lots of time to fight when he was younger and he still can fight. He continues to judge other fighters without actively fighting which is annoying. I heard in 08 that he would fight for the "right price" which is lame. Fight, then judge. Good statements MMAMoneyLine/Ozz.
I was a student at one of his schools and his family theories are the reason why I left. Gi Jiu-Jitsu is lame and the theories of Hickson are obsolute. Even though he teaches good techniques and body health, the evolution of mixed martial arts are ever changing. Hickson also had lots of time to fight when he was younger and he still can fight. He continues to judge other fighters without actively fighting which is annoying. I heard in 08 that he would fight for the “right price” which is lame. Fight, then judge.

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