Comments on: Fedor: ‘I don’t think you’ll see me in the UFC’ http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 27 May 2012 00:17:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Patrickk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-89419 Patrickk Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:12:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-89419 Ugh! This upsets me! I want Fedor to fight in the UFC and shutup all of the critics. I can't wait. I'm going to buy Fedor's book man. He is a beast!!!! Ugh! This upsets me! I want Fedor to fight in the UFC and shutup all of the critics. I can’t wait. I’m going to buy Fedor’s book man. He is a beast!!!!

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]]> By: jasonah http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-88380 jasonah Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:04:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-88380 Fedor's Going to keep fighting outside of the U.F.C Until he cannot even fight a Ranked opponet.Then What's left to do? What! get Paid a few million dollars to fight a Can?.It's going to Get to the point where no one cares who's he fighting.Unless the Fedor fans, want to see him Fight someone that Does not even Belong in there with him.Fedor does not want to fight for the U.F.C because. His Russian Comrades Cannot call the shot's.I have this Feeling if Fedor fights in the octagon,he will lose.and His Ora of invicability is gone.Let's not forget that Fedor has been fighting for a long time.And alot of those wins are against B level opponets, with The Evolved M.M.A fighter that fights in the U.S today.He has 2 win's over U.F.C Champs that could make a Living off fighting Each other, Arlovskis aluminum chin Vs.Sylivia's ground game... You see where I'm going With this!! Fedor’s Going to keep fighting outside of the U.F.C Until he cannot even fight a Ranked opponet.Then What’s left to do? What! get Paid a few million dollars to fight a Can?.It’s going to Get to the point where no one cares who’s he fighting.Unless the Fedor fans, want to see him Fight someone that Does not even Belong in there with him.Fedor does not want to fight for the U.F.C because. His Russian Comrades Cannot call the shot’s.I have this Feeling if Fedor fights in the octagon,he will lose.and His Ora of invicability is gone.Let’s not forget that Fedor has been fighting for a long time.And alot of those wins are against B level opponets, with The Evolved M.M.A fighter that fights in the U.S today.He has 2 win’s over U.F.C Champs that could make a Living off fighting Each other, Arlovskis aluminum chin Vs.Sylivia’s ground game… You see where I’m going With this!!

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]]> By: RoadsideGraphix http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-87897 RoadsideGraphix Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:19:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-87897 "He wouldn’t win a fight against the top competition at LHW or HW." WHAT??? Have you ever seen Fedor fight?? Fedor beat everyone in PRIDE in their prime. If he gets past Barnett there are 3 or 4 fights outside the UFC that are interesting. Lashley & Rogers for starters “He wouldn’t win a fight against the top competition at LHW or HW.”

WHAT???

Have you ever seen Fedor fight??
Fedor beat everyone in PRIDE in their prime. If he gets past Barnett there are 3 or 4 fights outside the UFC that are interesting.
Lashley & Rogers for starters

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]]> By: aimres http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-87894 aimres Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:04:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-87894 Fedor will never be in the UFC. He wouldn't win a fight against the top competition at LHW or HW. Please explain to me which one of his wins should I be impressed by? (has he faught anyone who is still relevant?) Fedor will never be in the UFC. He wouldn’t win a fight against the top competition at LHW or HW.

Please explain to me which one of his wins should I be impressed by? (has he faught anyone who is still relevant?)

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]]> By: dpk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-87565 dpk Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:58:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-87565 UFC is not going to suffer for not cross promoting. The day Fedor loses, M1 is going to lose the only leverage it has. UFC is a billion dollar company and growing by sticking to its business model, it isn't cross promoting, especially for a guy who has proven to have no drawing power on his own. Lesnar is UFC HW Champion, not the World Champion, and that is understood by all the hardcore fans, part of Fedor's problem is that no casual fans have a clue. I also think you are looking at the UFC HW division of 3-5 years ago, and not the current state of the division. With Pride out of the way, UFC has committed to the division and it is improving by the day. Randy, Lesnar, Mir, Velasquez, Carwin, Dos Santos, Gonzaga, Kongo are all top flight competition for Fedor. They are also bringing in lots of new talent (Duffee, Russow, Tuchscherer, Hague, Barry, and the cast of TUF 10). There are some interesting fights for Fedor outside of UFC, but looking forward his best fights will be in UFC. UFC is not going to suffer for not cross promoting. The day Fedor loses, M1 is going to lose the only leverage it has. UFC is a billion dollar company and growing by sticking to its business model, it isn’t cross promoting, especially for a guy who has proven to have no drawing power on his own. Lesnar is UFC HW Champion, not the World Champion, and that is understood by all the hardcore fans, part of Fedor’s problem is that no casual fans have a clue.

I also think you are looking at the UFC HW division of 3-5 years ago, and not the current state of the division. With Pride out of the way, UFC has committed to the division and it is improving by the day. Randy, Lesnar, Mir, Velasquez, Carwin, Dos Santos, Gonzaga, Kongo are all top flight competition for Fedor. They are also bringing in lots of new talent (Duffee, Russow, Tuchscherer, Hague, Barry, and the cast of TUF 10). There are some interesting fights for Fedor outside of UFC, but looking forward his best fights will be in UFC.

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]]> By: MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-87524 MMA-LOGIC Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:10:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-87524 To all those saying Fedor needs the UFC or that he will have nobody to fight I say this, he has never been in the UFC and yet SOMEHOW! he has faced far better class of opponent than any UFC HW in history. The UFC does not cross-promote and will (and should) suffer because of this. I hope the first time Brock and Fedor fight it is outside of the UFC. Brock will never and should never be considered world champ until he fights Fedor and therefore the UFC HW champ is only champ of the UFC, a single organization and the same goes for all of the rest of the UFC champions. Would Brock beat Overeem, Barnett, Rogers or even Buentello!? we may never know but the chances are good that we will know if Fedor can. I'm sick of people saying this guy or that guy needs to go to the UFC when all that needs to happen is for the UFC to be less restrictive of its own fighters and we would see the best fighters fight, but it is all about monopoly and money, so f@#k the UFC and F@#k Bud Light. LOL. P.S. I still watch every UFC but not because it is the "UFC", that brand means nothing to me it is just the fighters I want to see and because of their contracts it is the only place I can see them. To all those saying Fedor needs the UFC or that he will have nobody to fight I say this, he has never been in the UFC and yet SOMEHOW! he has faced far better class of opponent than any UFC HW in history. The UFC does not cross-promote and will (and should) suffer because of this.
I hope the first time Brock and Fedor fight it is outside of the UFC. Brock will never and should never be considered world champ until he fights Fedor and therefore the UFC HW champ is only champ of the UFC, a single organization and the same goes for all of the rest of the UFC champions. Would Brock beat Overeem, Barnett, Rogers or even Buentello!? we may never know but the chances are good that we will know if Fedor can.
I’m sick of people saying this guy or that guy needs to go to the UFC when all that needs to happen is for the UFC to be less restrictive of its own fighters and we would see the best fighters fight, but it is all about monopoly and money, so f@#k the UFC and F@#k Bud Light. LOL.

P.S. I still watch every UFC but not because it is the “UFC”, that brand means nothing to me it is just the fighters I want to see and because of their contracts it is the only place I can see them.

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]]> By: TerribleT http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-87490 TerribleT Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:34:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-87490 Sooner or later Fedor could end up losing and if it's outside of the UFC he will be worth nothing at all as far as a draw for PPV anywhere vs anyone but if he loses in the UFC and he's already under contract it will be no big deal as far as he's concerned but only if he's under a UFC contract.He's really taking a big gamble with his future as far as bringing in the big big bucks.If he happened to get cut or come up lame on one of his legs during a fight vs Barnett or Brett Rogers the UFC would turn their back on him immediately and out the door goes his leverage!!!!!!!!! Sooner or later Fedor could end up losing and if it’s outside of the UFC he will be worth nothing at all as far as a draw for PPV anywhere vs anyone but if he loses in the UFC and he’s already under contract it will be no big deal as far as he’s concerned but only if he’s under a UFC contract.He’s really taking a big gamble with his future as far as bringing in the big big bucks.If he happened to get cut or come up lame on one of his legs during a fight vs Barnett or Brett Rogers the UFC would turn their back on him immediately and out the door goes his leverage!!!!!!!!!

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]]> By: Kamakosmo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-87212 Kamakosmo Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:01:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-87212 Everyone making comments on both sides of the fence here is right, regardless whether he (Fedor) should or should not sign to the UFC. I'm sure there are inner workings more complicated (i.e. massive ego's and $$$) than we'll ever know. All I know is this, Fedor can Sambo his ass all over the world, who gives a shit? Hardcore MMA fans like you and me, and the Russians. How many peeps watched Brock fight Mir this weekend? Lots, that's who, and all over the World. Shame on him, and screw him, if he doesn't want to come to the premiere MMA league in the World. He'll go doen as the P.F.P best, but with question marks. Everyone making comments on both sides of the fence here is right, regardless whether he (Fedor) should or should not sign to the UFC. I’m sure there are inner workings more complicated (i.e. massive ego’s and $$$) than we’ll ever know. All I know is this, Fedor can Sambo his ass all over the world, who gives a shit? Hardcore MMA fans like you and me, and the Russians. How many peeps watched Brock fight Mir this weekend? Lots, that’s who, and all over the World. Shame on him, and screw him, if he doesn’t want to come to the premiere MMA league in the World. He’ll go doen as the P.F.P best, but with question marks.

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]]> By: Brandon http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-87197 Brandon Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:32:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-87197 Do people actually think that Tito, Brock, Fedor are taking home only $200 000 per fight? As said many many times before they only disclose a small % of the real fight pay for taxation reasons. UFC has offered Fedor the most lucrative contract which would pay him more then Affliction or anybody else would. UFC even said that they would allow him to do Sambo... the main problem was the amount of control (over his likeness) and exclusivity and the largest problem is Fedor's management. They won't sign unless the UFC makes deals which would promote M-1, have other M-1 fighters also sign on, allowing Fedor to work other shows etc.... It's a power struggle and really if Fedor were to lose to Barnett or anyone else, M-1 would have zero bargaining power and would definitely cave in. I hate Dana as much as anyone else but it's not him, it's Finkle-bum and his cronies. I predict Fedor comes to the UFC 2010, nobody else will be offering him the pay day as Affliction should be out of business by then and Strikeforce are much to smart to blow their money on a non selling PPV fighter. Do people actually think that Tito, Brock, Fedor are taking home only $200 000 per fight? As said many many times before they only disclose a small % of the real fight pay for taxation reasons.

UFC has offered Fedor the most lucrative contract which would pay him more then Affliction or anybody else would. UFC even said that they would allow him to do Sambo… the main problem was the amount of control (over his likeness) and exclusivity and the largest problem is Fedor’s management. They won’t sign unless the UFC makes deals which would promote M-1, have other M-1 fighters also sign on, allowing Fedor to work other shows etc….

It’s a power struggle and really if Fedor were to lose to Barnett or anyone else, M-1 would have zero bargaining power and would definitely cave in.

I hate Dana as much as anyone else but it’s not him, it’s Finkle-bum and his cronies. I predict Fedor comes to the UFC 2010, nobody else will be offering him the pay day as Affliction should be out of business by then and Strikeforce are much to smart to blow their money on a non selling PPV fighter.

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]]> By: PlagueAngel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-87164 PlagueAngel Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:57:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-87164 @ Manny Calling Dana White cheap is a overkill. Tito didn't leave because of money, he made 210k in a lackluster loss against Machida. The UFC didn't didn't want to pay him that much. Tito also left because of lack of respect. How was leaving the UFC been treating him? I don't think the heavyweight division lacks competition. The way things are shaping up, the next two years are going to be phenomenal matchups people have been talking about for years. Not to mention Lashey and Rogers will be coming to the UFC in 12-18 months. After Barnett, Fedor will have very little competition outside the UFC. I believe that the UFC will move some things around in a contract to get Fedor. Zuffa has already said that they will sit down with him and tell him that he can compete in Sombo matches, just not close to his fights in the UFC. According to one of the Fertitta's, they have never talked to Fedor in person and only to his managers. If Fedor wants to make the big money and get into the American mainstream, then he will fight in the UFC. @ Manny
Calling Dana White cheap is a overkill. Tito didn’t leave because of money, he made 210k in a lackluster loss against Machida. The UFC didn’t didn’t want to pay him that much. Tito also left because of lack of respect. How was leaving the UFC been treating him? I don’t think the heavyweight division lacks competition. The way things are shaping up, the next two years are going to be phenomenal matchups people have been talking about for years.

Not to mention Lashey and Rogers will be coming to the UFC in 12-18 months. After Barnett, Fedor will have very little competition outside the UFC. I believe that the UFC will move some things around in a contract to get Fedor. Zuffa has already said that they will sit down with him and tell him that he can compete in Sombo matches, just not close to his fights in the UFC. According to one of the Fertitta’s, they have never talked to Fedor in person and only to his managers. If Fedor wants to make the big money and get into the American mainstream, then he will fight in the UFC.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-87154 edub Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:07:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-87154 True Swami the only ones that are missing out is the hardcore fans(Us). True Swami the only ones that are missing out is the hardcore fans(Us).

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]]> By: MMASwami http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-87152 MMASwami Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:57:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-87152 In the grand scheme of things, Zuffa doesn't care if they ever get Fedor. His ppv numbers are abysmal and from a strictly business pov, they aren't losing anything by not having him fight in the UFC. In the grand scheme of things, Zuffa doesn’t care if they ever get Fedor. His ppv numbers are abysmal and from a strictly business pov, they aren’t losing anything by not having him fight in the UFC.

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]]> By: Mbreckles49 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-87151 Mbreckles49 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:54:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-87151 In one aspect I respect Fedor for not compromising. But on the other hand, what's holding him back a lot is because he made a promise to his President to continue doing the national sport Sambo - like Russia is respectable. In one aspect I respect Fedor for not compromising. But on the other hand, what’s holding him back a lot is because he made a promise to his President to continue doing the national sport Sambo – like Russia is respectable.

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]]> By: manny http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-87137 manny Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:49:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-87137 The UFC actually does need Fedor. Without him the HW division sucks and lacks competion. Sure there's randy, nog, mir,cro cop but they pose no threat to lesnar. Now Carwain & Velasquez are two great prospects the will have a good future in the division but not enough competion as they have in the LHW division. Fedor doesn't need $ but he makes more $ than what brock & gsp combined made in ufc 100. dana is a cheap baastard that doesn't pay his great fighters enough. wich is why tito left, fitch was dropped for about a wk pls their contract sucks to, just ask randy. dana owns every single one of them The UFC actually does need Fedor. Without him the HW division sucks and lacks competion. Sure there’s randy, nog, mir,cro cop but they pose no threat to lesnar. Now Carwain & Velasquez are two great prospects the will have a good future in the division but not enough competion as they have in the LHW division. Fedor doesn’t need $ but he makes more $ than what brock & gsp combined made in ufc 100. dana is a cheap baastard that doesn’t pay his great fighters enough. wich is why tito left, fitch was dropped for about a wk pls their contract sucks to, just ask randy. dana owns every single one of them

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]]> By: GetItOn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-87040 GetItOn Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:02:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-87040 Fedor doesn't need the UFC and the UFC certainly doesn't need Fedor. Both of them have enough star power and enough money to do their own thing and still be successful. Fedor doesn’t need the UFC and the UFC certainly doesn’t need Fedor. Both of them have enough star power and enough money to do their own thing and still be successful.

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]]> By: Hohlraum http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-87031 Hohlraum Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:58:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-87031 I'm sure that in Fedor's eyes he has enough $$ to make sure his kids and his kids kids are well taken care. Japan made Fedor, I'm sure he has a lot of loyalty to them and doesn't want to be restricted from fighting for his fans over there. I doubt the UFC could give a shit about Sambo matches at this point unless it interferes with his heath for upcoming fights. I’m sure that in Fedor’s eyes he has enough $$ to make sure his kids and his kids kids are well taken care. Japan made Fedor, I’m sure he has a lot of loyalty to them and doesn’t want to be restricted from fighting for his fans over there. I doubt the UFC could give a shit about Sambo matches at this point unless it interferes with his heath for upcoming fights.

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]]> By: dpk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-86999 dpk Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:45:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-86999 IMO, Fedor is going to need UFC more than UFC needs him. Lesnar v Carwin, Velasquez, Randy, Nog, Mir, Gonzaga, Dos Santos, and Cro Cop would all sell big. Not too mention that they will be bringing more young talent that will keep the UFC HW division rolling. Lesnar can sell a million PPVs, while Fedor depending on what report you hear can almost get 100K if he is matched against a name opponent (Arlovski). If Fedor came to UFC he would get the Zuffa hype machine behind him, and everyone in the world would know that he was the baddest man on the planet, and he would do Lesnar type numbers, but I guess a few Sambo matches are more important then facing the top up and coming competition in MMA. UFC already offered Fedor $1.5 mil a fight (Lesnar also made around $3 mil with PPV revenue from some reports), he is just upset about the restrictions that UFC puts in every contract they offer (Fighting exclusively for UFC, No Sambo, if you are the champ you stay in UFC). IMO, Fedor is going to need UFC more than UFC needs him. Lesnar v Carwin, Velasquez, Randy, Nog, Mir, Gonzaga, Dos Santos, and Cro Cop would all sell big. Not too mention that they will be bringing more young talent that will keep the UFC HW division rolling. Lesnar can sell a million PPVs, while Fedor depending on what report you hear can almost get 100K if he is matched against a name opponent (Arlovski). If Fedor came to UFC he would get the Zuffa hype machine behind him, and everyone in the world would know that he was the baddest man on the planet, and he would do Lesnar type numbers, but I guess a few Sambo matches are more important then facing the top up and coming competition in MMA.

UFC already offered Fedor $1.5 mil a fight (Lesnar also made around $3 mil with PPV revenue from some reports), he is just upset about the restrictions that UFC puts in every contract they offer (Fighting exclusively for UFC, No Sambo, if you are the champ you stay in UFC).

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]]> By: RoadsideGraphix http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/17/fedor-i-dont-think-youll-see-me-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-86823 RoadsideGraphix Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:18:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15563#comment-86823 How much longer does Fedor have in his career? He is not the most active fighter to begin with. If Brock is worth $400K per fight isn't Fedor worth at least double that? Dana White needs to do some ass kissing and get Fedor in the octagon ASAP How much longer does Fedor have in his career? He is not the most active fighter to begin with.
If Brock is worth $400K per fight isn’t Fedor worth at least double that?

Dana White needs to do some ass kissing and get Fedor in the octagon ASAP

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