Comments on: Jay Hieron: ‘I have a lot of bills and no paycheck’ http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 27 May 2012 00:17:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-97173 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:18:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-97173 Acually he has never been submitted. Acually he has never been submitted.

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-97172 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:17:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-97172 I think Hieron would fit in nicely with Strikeforce. He could give Diaz a pretty good fight as Diaz has had trouble with good wrestlers. I dont see him getting a ko but a UD is a possiabilty. I think Hieron would fit in nicely with Strikeforce. He could give Diaz a pretty good fight as Diaz has had trouble with good wrestlers. I dont see him getting a ko but a UD is a possiabilty.

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-95463 fanoftna33 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:34:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-95463 I wonder if the guys at affliction are licking thier chops at all the potential new desings they can come out with? I wonder if the guys at affliction are licking thier chops at all the potential new desings they can come out with?

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-94158 fanoftna33 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:44:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-94158 This is why fighters having sponsers is so important. Another reason affliction coming back to the ufc is a good thing. Hopefully these fighters get fights very soon. This is why fighters having sponsers is so important. Another reason affliction coming back to the ufc is a good thing. Hopefully these fighters get fights very soon.

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]]> By: dpk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-94144 dpk Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:26:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-94144 Yeah, there is an article on another site praising how much Affliction paid guys like Arlovski, Lindland, Belfort, and Barnett got paid, but it doesn't take into account guys like Hieron, and that Lauzon, and Horodreki had fights postponed late in the game by these guys multiple times, and they don't have the big time contracts. UFC and Strikeforce will at least follow through on their scheduled fights because they have fighters who can fill in on short notice. That is a nice quote by Mousasi though, I would love to see him in UFC soon. Yeah, there is an article on another site praising how much Affliction paid guys like Arlovski, Lindland, Belfort, and Barnett got paid, but it doesn’t take into account guys like Hieron, and that Lauzon, and Horodreki had fights postponed late in the game by these guys multiple times, and they don’t have the big time contracts. UFC and Strikeforce will at least follow through on their scheduled fights because they have fighters who can fill in on short notice.

That is a nice quote by Mousasi though, I would love to see him in UFC soon.

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-94118 Jstew3785 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:03:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-94118 That's awesome to hear another fighter say that. I know all of us posting have jumped Barnett's ass for what he did, but it's about time someone else said something. That’s awesome to hear another fighter say that. I know all of us posting have jumped Barnett’s ass for what he did, but it’s about time someone else said something.

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-94090 Sergio Hernandez Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:30:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-94090 No joke, ozz. I can't tell you how screwed I would be if I only got paid every four months and come August or December, my employer said, "Oh, sorry, we can't pay you. Maybe next time?" Hopefully these guys end up with a steady income from UFC or Strikeforce, two MMA companies who actually know what the hell they are doing. On the upside to all this, here is a quote from Mousasi: "Well, what can I say. It's ridiculous because one idiot we all have to pay for that. F*ck it. Maybe I ... I don't know. Every time ... Maybe I'll go to the UFC. It's ridiculous that this has to happen. I've been preparing for weeks now." No joke, ozz.

I can’t tell you how screwed I would be if I only got paid every four months and come August or December, my employer said, “Oh, sorry, we can’t pay you. Maybe next time?”

Hopefully these guys end up with a steady income from UFC or Strikeforce, two MMA companies who actually know what the hell they are doing.

On the upside to all this, here is a quote from Mousasi:

“Well, what can I say. It’s ridiculous because one idiot we all have to pay for that. F*ck it. Maybe I … I don’t know. Every time … Maybe I’ll go to the UFC. It’s ridiculous that this has to happen. I’ve been preparing for weeks now.”

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]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-94081 ozz_the_powerful Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:22:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-94081 I actually thought alot about this last night and it bothers me. I know these guys put alot on the line to get the trainers for the camp, pay them, spend time away from their families, and when it comes down to crunch time, just when you're wrapping it up and polishing the rough edges, BINK! They jerk the carpet out from under you. I really hope they find a way to either guarentee these guys a bout soon, or at least give them their guarenteed amounts. Some of us live paycheck to paycheck. Some of these guys do to- fight to fight I actually thought alot about this last night and it bothers me. I know these guys put alot on the line to get the trainers for the camp, pay them, spend time away from their families, and when it comes down to crunch time, just when you’re wrapping it up and polishing the rough edges, BINK! They jerk the carpet out from under you. I really hope they find a way to either guarentee these guys a bout soon, or at least give them their guarenteed amounts.

Some of us live paycheck to paycheck. Some of these guys do to- fight to fight

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-94076 Sergio Hernandez Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:15:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-94076 So many people are lamenting Affliction's death with overwrought "They put some a couple of great shows" eulogies but so many people are forgetting that this is the SECOND time they've screwed over fighters. Guys like Fedor, Arlovski, Barnett... they can afford to lose out of a paycheck. Guys like Hieron, Lauzon, Horodecki, Santiago... they're fucked, man. They're probably struggling now and my heart goes out to them. The UFC, for all its underhandedness and "shady" business tactics, represents a steady, almost guaranteed paycheck if you are under contract to them. So many people are lamenting Affliction’s death with overwrought “They put some a couple of great shows” eulogies but so many people are forgetting that this is the SECOND time they’ve screwed over fighters.

Guys like Fedor, Arlovski, Barnett… they can afford to lose out of a paycheck.

Guys like Hieron, Lauzon, Horodecki, Santiago… they’re fucked, man. They’re probably struggling now and my heart goes out to them.

The UFC, for all its underhandedness and “shady” business tactics, represents a steady, almost guaranteed paycheck if you are under contract to them.

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-93643 fanoftna33 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:07:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-93643 I forgot all about the Gomi fight at least he can still fight over in japan, but personally I would like to see him fight in the UFC Gomi vs Maynard would be awesome. I forgot all about the Gomi fight at least he can still fight over in japan, but personally I would like to see him fight in the UFC
Gomi vs Maynard would be awesome.

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]]> By: metalmulisha http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-93625 metalmulisha Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:44:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-93625 Hieron going to Strikeforce makes sense, but I personally would like to see Strikeforce get Gomi for a rematch with Diaz, and yes I know Diaz is a lot bigger, but that first fight was one of the best fights I've seen. Hieron going to Strikeforce makes sense, but I personally would like to see Strikeforce get Gomi for a rematch with Diaz, and yes I know Diaz is a lot bigger, but that first fight was one of the best fights I’ve seen.

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-93612 fanoftna33 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:24:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-93612 A long term sponsership and a fresh start with a new promotion is a good thing for some of these guys. with Affliction putting on so few shows a year, averaged out they did not pay that well.My guess for the first fighter signed would be Belfort. A long term sponsership and a fresh start with a new promotion is a good thing for some of these guys. with Affliction putting on so few shows a year, averaged out they did not pay that well.My guess for the first fighter signed would be Belfort.

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]]> By: Patrickk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-93602 Patrickk Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:17:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-93602 Yeah, this is the downside right now. But trust and believe it will all pay off for them in the end. I know that their training camps and coaches understand what just happened, and will probably cut them some slack on things until they get another fight. Another thing is, they could get a loan off of Randy Couture, lol. He's pretty paid right now! A gym, a clothing line, fights, money from the gates of the events that he fight in, amongst other small-time endorsements...yeah, he's pretty paid right now! Sounds kinda bad, but you gotta do what you gotta do. These guys bust their behinds and Affliction better compensate them with at least half of their regular pay rate. Yeah, this is the downside right now. But trust and believe it will all pay off for them in the end. I know that their training camps and coaches understand what just happened, and will probably cut them some slack on things until they get another fight.

Another thing is, they could get a loan off of Randy Couture, lol. He’s pretty paid right now! A gym, a clothing line, fights, money from the gates of the events that he fight in, amongst other small-time endorsements…yeah, he’s pretty paid right now!

Sounds kinda bad, but you gotta do what you gotta do. These guys bust their behinds and Affliction better compensate them with at least half of their regular pay rate.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-93597 edub Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:14:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-93597 Substitute Shields for Diaz too and ull have the two best 170lbs outside of the UFC fighting each other. Nick go back to MW. Substitute Shields for Diaz too and ull have the two best 170lbs outside of the UFC fighting each other.

Nick go back to MW.

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-93590 fanoftna33 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:11:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-93590 Hopefully Strikeforce gets Heiron in to face Diaz, that would be a better fight imo. I was looking forward to seeing he fight Daley, that had war written all over it. Hopefully Strikeforce gets Heiron in to face Diaz, that would be a better fight imo. I was looking forward to seeing he fight Daley, that had war written all over it.

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]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-93540 ozz_the_powerful Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:36:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-93540 I was waiting to hear from a few of these guys. I feel bad for them. Those camps aren't cheap by any means. Best of luck to all. I was waiting to hear from a few of these guys. I feel bad for them. Those camps aren’t cheap by any means. Best of luck to all.

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]]> By: ThePerfectDrug http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/24/jay-hieron-%e2%80%9ci-have-a-lot-of-bills-and-no-paycheck%e2%80%a6%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-93524 ThePerfectDrug Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:19:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15821#comment-93524 I hope this happens it would be a saving grace to a rapidly declining StrikeForce card, make the magic happen Mr. Coker. On a side note I am hearing that Affliction is offering alot of the fighters LongTerm sponsor deals to offset some of their costs loss in the whole Affliction thing, every bit helps right? I hope this happens it would be a saving grace to a rapidly declining StrikeForce card, make the magic happen Mr. Coker.

On a side note I am hearing that Affliction is offering alot of the fighters LongTerm sponsor deals to offset some of their costs loss in the whole Affliction thing, every bit helps right?

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