Comments on: Shogun admits going to the ground may not be the best strategy with Machida http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-97342 ozz_the_powerful Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:19:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-97342 There's the main part of the problem. TUF is bullshit. "ONE fighter getting the 6 figure deal......" Whatever. They should just say "as long as you finish in the top 4 or 5, we'll give you a fight. If you win, they don't cut you, they keep you. Thats what's going on. There’s the main part of the problem.

TUF is bullshit. “ONE fighter getting the 6 figure deal……”

Whatever. They should just say “as long as you finish in the top 4 or 5, we’ll give you a fight. If you win, they don’t cut you, they keep you.

Thats what’s going on.

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-97316 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:08:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-97316 Credeur is a very game fighter and fun to watch. One guy they got rid of that surprised me was Jason Macdonald,a very game fighter and good all around. His fight withMaia was great. Houston sticks around because the casual fan likes big punchers like that guy, and the ufc wants to cash in on that. The guy has not a lot of skill on the ground. Credeur is a very game fighter and fun to watch. One guy they got rid of that surprised me was Jason Macdonald,a very game fighter and good all around. His fight withMaia was great. Houston sticks around because the casual fan likes big punchers like that guy, and the ufc wants to cash in on that. The guy has not a lot of skill on the ground.

]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-97279 ozz_the_powerful Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:47:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-97279 I don't envy the leadership in that organization. They have a tough job. Danzig really does need to go. I'm surprised the kept houston alexander, but hopefully he comes back a bit more reinvented. They are going to have to trim more if they want to fit more quality in. Tim Credeur live about 5 minutes from me in Breaux Bridge. I"M PISSED HE HASN"T BEEN ON A CARD YET!! The guy is absolutely SICK on the ground. I don’t envy the leadership in that organization. They have a tough job. Danzig really does need to go. I’m surprised the kept houston alexander, but hopefully he comes back a bit more reinvented. They are going to have to trim more if they want to fit more quality in.

Tim Credeur live about 5 minutes from me in Breaux Bridge. I”M PISSED HE HASN”T BEEN ON A CARD YET!! The guy is absolutely SICK on the ground.

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-97274 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:42:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-97274 Speaking of getting the best fighters how much trimming of the current roster do you think will happen in the following weeks? one of the guys in real trouble I think would be Mac Danzig lost 3 in a row. Speaking of getting the best fighters how much trimming of the current roster do you think will happen in the following weeks? one of the guys in real trouble I think would be Mac Danzig lost 3 in a row.

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-97266 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:38:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-97266 More fights on the main card would be great, if they buy 3 hours of ppv time and only use 2 and a half it sucks for us. They should buy 4 hours and give us all the fights. I am sure selling the undercard fights on there website get some money, but adding more couldnt hurt. More fights on the main card would be great, if they buy 3 hours of ppv time and only use 2 and a half it sucks for us. They should buy 4 hours and give us all the fights. I am sure selling the undercard fights on there website get some money, but adding more couldnt hurt.

]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-97255 ozz_the_powerful Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:31:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-97255 Personally, I think we need a few promotions, at least. Not necissarily to compete with the UFC, but to have a few options for fighters out there. I get the UFC wants the best of the best. However, there WILL come a time when you either have to run 2 events a month, or, an idea I like better, 10 - 12 fight main cards! Personally, I think we need a few promotions, at least. Not necissarily to compete with the UFC, but to have a few options for fighters out there.

I get the UFC wants the best of the best. However, there WILL come a time when you either have to run 2 events a month, or, an idea I like better, 10 – 12 fight main cards!

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-97217 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:57:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-97217 Dana has been talking a lot lately about bringing the ufc back to Japan. Thats one of the new goals for the company. I just got hdnet also Angry mike- about two days before the superhulk tournament began. It is a treu mma fans channel. Dana has been talking a lot lately about bringing the ufc back to Japan. Thats one of the new goals for the company. I just got hdnet also Angry mike- about two days before the superhulk tournament began. It is a treu mma fans channel.

]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-97212 Angry Mike Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:54:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-97212 @Oz I only recently switched from Comcast to one of the satellite companies, and the sole reason I did it was to get HDNet. Basically, I'm playing catch up with the Dream org. I've watched pretty much everything that HDNet has aired since June and have really enjoyed the fights, even though I prefer the cage and think elbows to the head should be allowed. I get the impression that Dream focuses primarily on the Asian market, and especially Japan. I have no idea whether it's successful in that market. I doubt that it's a competitor with UFC because the orgs' markets may not overlap very much. I suppose that if UFC wants world domination, it would like to see Dream fail, but its failure may not affect UFC. @Oz

I only recently switched from Comcast to one of the satellite companies, and the sole reason I did it was to get HDNet. Basically, I’m playing catch up with the Dream org. I’ve watched pretty much everything that HDNet has aired since June and have really enjoyed the fights, even though I prefer the cage and think elbows to the head should be allowed.

I get the impression that Dream focuses primarily on the Asian market, and especially Japan. I have no idea whether it’s successful in that market. I doubt that it’s a competitor with UFC because the orgs’ markets may not overlap very much. I suppose that if UFC wants world domination, it would like to see Dream fail, but its failure may not affect UFC.

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-97153 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:02:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-97153 Even in the middle of a fight,like the old pride show on FSN, Dream will cut to the announcer. I dont know how important he is to the company but thats weird. Even in the middle of a fight,like the old pride show on FSN, Dream will cut to the announcer. I dont know how important he is to the company but thats weird.

]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-97149 ozz_the_powerful Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:57:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-97149 They need to do that for Buffer, LOL He keeps getting cut AWAY from! They need to do that for Buffer, LOL

He keeps getting cut AWAY from!

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-97144 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:00:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-97144 I havent had the chance to watch any of the Sengoku fights yet, but Dream puts on a pretty good show. But have you guys ever noticed how often during the event the camera cuts to the ring announcer? I havent had the chance to watch any of the Sengoku fights yet, but Dream puts on a pretty good show. But have you guys ever noticed how often during the event the camera cuts to the ring announcer?

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-96779 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:26:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-96779 No Dream isnt any threat, he is going to wish shit I dont know he has almost everything. No Dream isnt any threat, he is going to wish shit I dont know he has almost everything.

]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-96749 ozz_the_powerful Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:01:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-96749 So Dana White has found the Genie and made two of his 3 wishes. Dream is F****d next. So Dana White has found the Genie and made two of his 3 wishes. Dream is F****d next.

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-96742 fanoftna33 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:56:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-96742 Last weeks insanity seems to have rubbed off on this week, really anything can happen right now. Last weeks insanity seems to have rubbed off on this week, really anything can happen right now.

]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-96733 ozz_the_powerful Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:49:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-96733 Jstew3785, angry mike, sergio, edub, ANYONE? This has already been a chaotic last week for MMA..... I don't know how much more I can take Jstew3785, angry mike, sergio, edub, ANYONE? This has already been a chaotic last week for MMA….. I don’t know how much more I can take

]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-96728 ozz_the_powerful Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:43:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-96728 I'd expect a new thread in the next half hour or so. I guess until then.... What do you guys think? This is just getting crazy now! I’d expect a new thread in the next half hour or so. I guess until then…. What do you guys think? This is just getting crazy now!

]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-96723 ozz_the_powerful Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:40:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-96723 Bad timing and off topic, but have you guys heard that Josh Thomson might be off the Strikeforce card as well? I guess his broken leg isn't fully healed.....? Bad timing and off topic, but have you guys heard that Josh Thomson might be off the Strikeforce card as well? I guess his broken leg isn’t fully healed…..?

]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-96713 Jstew3785 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:35:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-96713 I am a huge fan of Shogun, always have been, but to me there is no excuse for gassing in a fight. I mean, this is what you do for a living, how could you not take it seriously? It's almost like a sign of disrespect to me. Like you don't respect the fans, your opponent, or this sport enough to train properly. In my opinion he has taken care of this and will be in top form. That's just a gut feeling I have. I'm not training with the guy every day so I don't have any facts to back this up. I am a huge fan of Shogun, always have been, but to me there is no excuse for gassing in a fight. I mean, this is what you do for a living, how could you not take it seriously? It’s almost like a sign of disrespect to me. Like you don’t respect the fans, your opponent, or this sport enough to train properly. In my opinion he has taken care of this and will be in top form. That’s just a gut feeling I have. I’m not training with the guy every day so I don’t have any facts to back this up.

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-96477 fanoftna33 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:10:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-96477 If we see a very well prepaired Shogun vs Machida it could be a war no doubt. It sucks when formerly great fighters have questions like it seems Shogun has now. Questions about conditioning, motivation etc. If we see a very well prepaired Shogun vs Machida it could be a war no doubt. It sucks when formerly great fighters have questions like it seems Shogun has now. Questions about conditioning, motivation etc.

]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/26/shogun-admits-going-to-the-ground-may-not-be-the-best-strategy-with-machida/comment-page-1/#comment-96447 Sergio Hernandez Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:59:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15855#comment-96447 Shogun is such an X factor in this fight. Are we getting the Shogun that took on Griffin and Coleman or are we getting the Pride Shogun that we saw glimpses of in the Liddell fight? Yes, Liddell has lost a step or two but Shogun looked absolutely dominating in that fight. I hope Shogun comes out full force, this'll be a fight for the ages. Shogun is such an X factor in this fight.

Are we getting the Shogun that took on Griffin and Coleman or are we getting the Pride Shogun that we saw glimpses of in the Liddell fight?

Yes, Liddell has lost a step or two but Shogun looked absolutely dominating in that fight.

I hope Shogun comes out full force, this’ll be a fight for the ages.

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