Comments on: Tito Ortiz Sees the Writing on the Wall http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: BillyWarhol http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-97871 BillyWarhol Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:43:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-97871 ORTIZ vs LIDDELL!! LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!!!!!!! ORTIZ vs LIDDELL!!

LET’S GET IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: anferny http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-97598 anferny Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:20:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-97598 btw - sorry for the typos, besides obviously not being a native speaker, I am new to this forum and haven't realised that there is no "edit" function.. thanks for understanding btw – sorry for the typos, besides obviously not being a native speaker, I am new to this forum and haven’t realised that there is no “edit” function..
thanks for understanding

]]> By: anferny http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-97591 anferny Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:17:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-97591 I would like to see Tito back - but I am not sure he can match the current level of skill. Just before he left and prior to his last fight one of the main comments from Dana was about Tito not having scored any decisive victories for a long time. He had the Ken Shamrock fights, but I am not sure how much one can value those and thats about it.. In the mean time twho things have or might have change. 1st the fighting has been going on the in the ufc and we have seen a lot of impressive performances from constantly improving fithers.. so I think the level of cometition has improved 2nd Tito has had time for his surgery and to recover. So he might be back to being 100% healthy, but is that enough? While he was getting better in terms of health his potential opponents had time for getting better inside the cage. So Id be glad to see him back, but I am expecting him to come back and loose like 2-3 fights in a row. Not sure if Dana will want to keep him after that. Of course unless he puts on some axe-murderer type of performances ;) I would like to see Tito back – but I am not sure he can match the current level of skill.
Just before he left and prior to his last fight one of the main comments from Dana was about Tito not having scored any decisive victories for a long time. He had the Ken Shamrock fights, but I am not sure how much one can value those and thats about it..
In the mean time twho things have or might have change.
1st the fighting has been going on the in the ufc and we have seen a lot of impressive performances from constantly improving fithers.. so I think the level of cometition has improved
2nd Tito has had time for his surgery and to recover. So he might be back to being 100% healthy, but is that enough? While he was getting better in terms of health his potential opponents had time for getting better inside the cage.

So Id be glad to see him back, but I am expecting him to come back and loose like 2-3 fights in a row.
Not sure if Dana will want to keep him after that. Of course unless he puts on some axe-murderer type of performances ;)

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-97436 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:01:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-97436 Well said cere. Well said cere.

]]> By: cere http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-97435 cere Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:59:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-97435 Absolutely. Lorenzo is probably a better pick anyway, as he appears to be less of a hothead when negotiating with people that Dana hasn't been as successful with (Fitch, CroCop). Even if it is Dana, him saying he was going out of the country doesn't mean he is. Just as likely it was just a way to be unreachable for a time. Whether it is Dana or Lorenzo or some back office peon sent to negotiate, I don't care. Just get it done. Absolutely. Lorenzo is probably a better pick anyway, as he appears to be less of a hothead when negotiating with people that Dana hasn’t been as successful with (Fitch, CroCop). Even if it is Dana, him saying he was going out of the country doesn’t mean he is. Just as likely it was just a way to be unreachable for a time. Whether it is Dana or Lorenzo or some back office peon sent to negotiate, I don’t care. Just get it done.

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-97373 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:29:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-97373 The ufc is more than Dana They could send in Lorenzo for some negoitations with Fedor and company. The ufc is more than Dana They could send in Lorenzo for some negoitations with Fedor and company.

]]> By: cere http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-97365 cere Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:27:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-97365 In his radio interview on Friday Dana said he was going out of the country and would have lots to discuss at the press conference on Friday. I was hoping that this might mean he was heading to Russia to talk with M-1...but When M-1 put out their press release that they were waiting in California for anyone that wanted to talk to them, this became less likely. I still hope Dana went to talk to them in Cali. Fedor might be tied to M-1 as a promotion because he is tied to them as his management, but I would hope he would see the conflict in this set up. Just talk to Don King's victims, err I mean clients. Maybe M-1 and or Fedor would recognize the value of a few million from the UFC to set aside their demands for co-promotion. My hope for Friday is Dana discusses Affliction (old news by then) and announces Tito and Vitor are in the UFC and will fight Dan and Franklin at 103. and then pulls a Steve Jobs "oh, one more thing" as he closes and brings out Fedor. In his radio interview on Friday Dana said he was going out of the country and would have lots to discuss at the press conference on Friday. I was hoping that this might mean he was heading to Russia to talk with M-1…but When M-1 put out their press release that they were waiting in California for anyone that wanted to talk to them, this became less likely. I still hope Dana went to talk to them in Cali.

Fedor might be tied to M-1 as a promotion because he is tied to them as his management, but I would hope he would see the conflict in this set up. Just talk to Don King’s victims, err I mean clients. Maybe M-1 and or Fedor would recognize the value of a few million from the UFC to set aside their demands for co-promotion.

My hope for Friday is Dana discusses Affliction (old news by then) and announces Tito and Vitor are in the UFC and will fight Dan and Franklin at 103. and then pulls a Steve Jobs “oh, one more thing” as he closes and brings out Fedor.

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-97160 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:28:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-97160 I dont think it will happen but the way it has been going it would not completly surprise me. I dont think it will happen but the way it has been going it would not completly surprise me.

]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-97159 ozz_the_powerful Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:17:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-97159 I'd believe the first part. I think Fedor will never fight in the UFC though. He's locked to M-1 for life. I’d believe the first part. I think Fedor will never fight in the UFC though. He’s locked to M-1 for life.

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-97154 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:04:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-97154 I hope friday we get the biggest announcement yet from dana white. First off he should come out wearing the new affliction/ufc shirt. Then in the middle of the press conference he could have Fedor walk out. Seriously what could top that. I hope friday we get the biggest announcement yet from dana white. First off he should come out wearing the new affliction/ufc shirt. Then in the middle of the press conference he could have Fedor walk out. Seriously what could top that.

]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-97148 ozz_the_powerful Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:57:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-97148 I think we're going to find out a lot more than what we think come Friday. I think we’re going to find out a lot more than what we think come Friday.

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-97145 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:17:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-97145 We will find out on friday,hopefully. I hope dana dosent just announce that Tito is back and say he will fight a opponent to be named later. We will find out on friday,hopefully. I hope dana dosent just announce that Tito is back and say he will fight a opponent to be named later.

]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-97123 ozz_the_powerful Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:09:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-97123 mu_shin, great post. I remember him talkking about that in that interview, but hell, that was a while back, wasn't it? I'm with you; I hate being left in the dark. I would hope by now he has stepped it up and is training full time again. He always was/is one of my favorite fighters. mu_shin, great post. I remember him talkking about that in that interview, but hell, that was a while back, wasn’t it? I’m with you; I hate being left in the dark. I would hope by now he has stepped it up and is training full time again. He always was/is one of my favorite fighters.

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-96832 fanoftna33 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:26:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-96832 I am with you mu_shin I would love to see Tito back to form, the old gnp beast he was. I know he and dana have made up but I would still like to see tito crush a few good fighters and prove all the crap dana talked wrong. I am with you mu_shin I would love to see Tito back to form, the old gnp beast he was. I know he and dana have made up but I would still like to see tito crush a few good fighters and prove all the crap dana talked wrong.

]]> By: mu_shin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-96829 mu_shin Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:13:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-96829 Back to Tito Ortiz for a moment- Agree that Tito is a savvy self promoter, a decorated former champion, and among the most well known MMA fighters on the planet. He has tremendous name recognition, and will definitely contribute to PPV sales if and when he makes a deal with the UFC. , For myself, I'm most curious about where Tito is in his rehabilitation/recovery, and at what intensity level he has been able to return to training. I read lots of posts calling for Tito to step in against Fedor when Josh Barnett bombed out of their fight, totally disregarding the fact that Ortiz has been inactive since back surgery last October, and is still at some level recuperating. I saw a video interview a while back where Tito said he was returning to weight training and expected to resume full contact stand up and wrestling training at some indeterminate time in the near future. Would like to hear from him some specifics as to where he is physically, and when he feels he could return to the ring and expect to compete successfully. All the talk is great, but as a fan I'm most interested in seeing Tito in the cage, returning to form and smashing opponents with his signature ground and pound. Really hope he can do it, and justify all this conjecture with some solid performances. Back to Tito Ortiz for a moment- Agree that Tito is a savvy self promoter, a decorated former champion, and among the most well known MMA fighters on the planet. He has tremendous name recognition, and will definitely contribute to PPV sales if and when he makes a deal with the UFC.
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For myself, I’m most curious about where Tito is in his rehabilitation/recovery, and at what intensity level he has been able to return to training. I read lots of posts calling for Tito to step in against Fedor when Josh Barnett bombed out of their fight, totally disregarding the fact that Ortiz has been inactive since back surgery last October, and is still at some level recuperating. I saw a video interview a while back where Tito said he was returning to weight training and expected to resume full contact stand up and wrestling training at some indeterminate time in the near future. Would like to hear from him some specifics as to where he is physically, and when he feels he could return to the ring and expect to compete successfully.

All the talk is great, but as a fan I’m most interested in seeing Tito in the cage, returning to form and smashing opponents with his signature ground and pound. Really hope he can do it, and justify all this conjecture with some solid performances.

]]> By: cocoonofhorror http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-96454 cocoonofhorror Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:02:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-96454 intelligent? sorry, no. intelligent? sorry, no.

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-96354 fanoftna33 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:03:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-96354 Kimo has been trying to get something like this going for a long time now. If you had guys like that, who fought for almost nothing back in the day, helping out the new generation of fighters that would be great. One problem though is that nobody but the fighters really know what they are getting paid. The state athletic commissions olny report disclosed payroll, they dont include any fighter bonuses, sponser money, etc. It still seems like a well kept secret on what these guys acually make. Kimo has been trying to get something like this going for a long time now. If you had guys like that, who fought for almost nothing back in the day, helping out the new generation of fighters that would be great. One problem though is that nobody but the fighters really know what they are getting paid. The state athletic commissions olny report disclosed payroll, they dont include any fighter bonuses, sponser money, etc. It still seems like a well kept secret on what these guys acually make.

]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-96336 edub Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:53:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-96336 Yea good point fan. Im sure if there was a will thered be a way though. I would say have a mixture of old fighters/trainers and lawyers try and draft one up though. Yea good point fan. Im sure if there was a will thered be a way though. I would say have a mixture of old fighters/trainers and lawyers try and draft one up though.

]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-96329 ozz_the_powerful Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:47:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-96329 There's also a ga-zillion different belts and weight classes.... I just don't understand it There’s also a ga-zillion different belts and weight classes…. I just don’t understand it

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/27/tito-ortiz-sees-the-writing-on-the-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-96326 fanoftna33 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:42:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=15866#comment-96326 No sarcasm I was curious. I looked it up be havent found much. I would think a fighters union would be so hard to form that its not worth it to union officals yet, wait until there is more money then we will see some union reps for sure. No sarcasm I was curious. I looked it up be havent found much. I would think a fighters union would be so hard to form that its not worth it to union officals yet, wait until there is more money then we will see some union reps for sure.

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