In the end, we are both arguing the same point: make it happen. But, if neither with concede on co-promotion and the UFC appears to have conceded on everything else, it seems like an exercise in futility to suggest/demand that they concede even more. In the give and take, it is time for M-1 to do one little bit a give. And they would be ‘giving’ up on something they have no entitlement to anyway.

So, make it happen or make it go away.

cool angle, and I for one am one of those people saying,”Keep going, give co-promotion, keep talking”.
M-1′s demands are NOT unreasonable,they just need to be TWEEKED heavily.
I’ve got 50 bucks by my telephone just waiting for the next Fedor fight.
It’s all about Fedor.
Keep going,give co-proomotion,keep talking.
There’s gotta be a way.
Always remember free promotion costs nothing.
That’s part of the reason why dudes like CORY BRADY are so effing popular.
Right CORY BRADY?

As I have said, this is a racket. No different than demands for protection money.

I understand you want Fedor in the UFC. So do I. Are you willing to pay any price? If so, by all means mortgage your house, sell you car and send the proceeds to M-1. Once they get a taste, maybe you could give in to their subsequent demands for a piece of every paycheck.

No, that would be unfair to expect. Why should the UFC be any more expected to enter into such an obviously unfair contract. Why are they only only party that has to bend?

I want the UFC to get Fedor more than anything other signing in all of MMA. It doesn’t affect me if Dana agrees to give 50% of the UFC to M-1. I would watch if it happened. Doesn’t mean I think it is right.

The main reason I say to just walk away at this point is that M-1′s demands are completely unreasonable and they know it. They have received more publicity this week that ever before. They are milking this. Everyone saying “keep going, give co-promotion, keep talking” is just buying into M-1′s PR stunt. Since co-promotion is not going to happen, the UFC needs to walk away and stop giving M-1 free advertising. When M-1 wants to talk seriously, I am sure Dana will take their call.

What’s the record for most comments on a single story?

but still, yes Dr.Stoppage, I have to agree with..
‘But I feel it’s the next “greatest thing ever” to happen in MMA. ‘

thanks ozz – ill go check out http://twitter.com/TitoOrtiz
maybe that is the next greatet thing to happen..
or at least something unexpected.. crazy news like
‘ Tito’s surgery went beyond what the public expected – he will now be able to face to winner of Carano vs. Cyborg’
you never know

No, having the largest events in their history by having Fedor is meaningless to their bottom line of they then hand over 1/2 the profit. This is what M-1 is demanding. 1/2. I am sure they would go down to 1/3. So what? If getting Fedor in means walking away, after giving M-1 their cut, less than they would have profited from any non-Fedor UFC event, then again, what do they gain?

It is very simple. Bring in Fedor is not worth handing over a significant portion of the UFC’s profits. What would be reasonable? 10%? 20%? 40%?

See how that work? M-1 gets a cut of revenue for doing nothing. Sound familiar? It is a racket. It isn’t quite protection money, but it is a racket none the less.

Do I want Fedor in the UFC? Yep. Do I think it will be the next big thing? Yep. Is there a _reasonable_ compromise that could get Fedor in the UFC? Yep. Do I want to see it happen? Yep?

I just don’t expect the UFC to hand over money for nothing. They are offering to pay Fedor and pay him well. They have compromised on every single point. M-1 is the one that seems inflexible….i.e they are the all or nothing negotiators because the have Fedor.

Seriously, this demand is as ridiculous as their demands for the UFC to build a stadium. Why doesn’t M-1 also demand a rocketship, 50% stake in the UFC and a child from Dana and Lorenzo…I mean, just because those are unreasonable doesn’t mean they aren’t good ideas, if it means getting Fedor in the UFC. No, in reality thoe are all stupid ideas. Just as stupid as M-1 asking for 1/2 of all profits from all UFC event starring Fedor. He is not worth that much.

Question-
“How can you, in any way, think this would be a good idea for the UFC?”
Answer-
“What does that get the UFC? Sure they get Fedor, have the biggest events in their history …”

CO-promotion doesn’t necessarily mean 50/50 on revenues.
The UFC as a business must be doing something right.
I feel that they must have the negotiating powers to dabble in co-promotion
without having to fold their operations.
They want Fedor,and so do I.
Do you?
Look,Millen’s a dick.
And so is Dana.
But Millen has aligned himself with Fedor.
Dick or not,ya gotta give the guy credit.
Or at least I do.
I mean,I still effing hate him,but what are ya gonna do.
On the other hand I love Dana ( his assholiness),and the Fertitas brothers.
The UFC doesn’t have Fedor,nor do they need him.
But I feel it’s the next “greatest thing ever” to happen in MMA.
Do you?
And it would be awesome to have the UFC take credit for it.
And man,I believe there must be a way that the two parties can come up with some kind of deal that sees Fedor fighting UFC heavyweights.
Do you?
He doesn’t have to be sole property of the UFC.
I remember an early UFC PPV where they were interviewing a representitive from Pride,and he stated that they would ‘lend’ Sakaraba to the UFC.
I think it was when Chuck fought over in Japan.
Either way,I didn’t know who Sak was,but man I was looking forward to seeing it happen.
Of course it never panned out.
My point is,now they all have a chance to make it happen.
Let’s effing have Fedor fight UFC Heavyweights.
He doesn’t HAVE to be a in the UFC.
I don’t own stock in the UFC,(do you ?)so I don’t care about potential revenue gains or losses.
And look man,like you,I’m just a fan of MMA.
I just want to see it happen.
Do you?
Cheers

A Pride / UFC Heavyweight Title Unification Match would be awesome to see, complete with Fedor making his entrance carrying the old Pride belt. That gives me goose bumps just thinking about it.

Fair arguement. Could you imagine an MMA fan politician…..

Unless you do they Randy vs. Fedor fight in Russia for no title. Since it is not in the states it could still be for five rounds. When writing this now I see no way it would ever happen. Zuffa would get nothing out of this. Even if Randy wins Fedor is no longer that big of a draw. And they are back to square one. If Fedor wins they have made a star out of Fedor(giving M1 a lot more negotiating power).

If you give M1 a spotlight your creating a potential rival. Its just never gonna happen IMO.