Comments on: Rich Franklin vs. Vitor Belfort to take place at 195 pounds http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 27 May 2012 00:47:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Bullylover http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-101766 Bullylover Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:39:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-101766 I don't really know about Rich being the best in both divisions. I think it's between him and marquardt on who's second best in Mw. I also think forrest would bully him around the cage and rampage would sleep him.But we never know till they fight. I don’t really know about Rich being the best in both divisions. I think it’s between him and marquardt on who’s second best in Mw. I also think forrest would bully him around the cage and rampage would sleep him.But we never know till they fight.

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]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-101734 Angry Mike Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:37:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-101734 Great match up and lots of back story drama. Is Franklin still competitive? Will Belfort hold up mentally? Great fight for the fans. Great match up and lots of back story drama. Is Franklin still competitive? Will Belfort hold up mentally? Great fight for the fans.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-101093 Rich S. Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:17:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-101093 True. Obviously, Franklin will never beat Anderson. And he'll probably never beat Machida. But, I still want to see the fight. Why keep the man in limbo and have him continually fight very tough opponents, like Wandy or Vitor, without moving him towards a title shot? I mean, I'm sure he's fine with having these epic battles, but every fighter longs to be champion, a former champion does even more so I would think.. And maybe no one likes Rich's chances against Machida, but why not give him a shot at redemption, and even better, a title.. He expressed recently that he doesn't necessarily want to re-fight guys that beat him definitively. But, we all know that deep down inside, he would love to have a rematch with Machida, and he would love to be the LHW champ. Rich is practically the best in both divisions, 185 and 205, aside from their respective champions.. So, if he's going to fight at 205, stop giving him these 195 bouts (as much as I love them) and start getting him in the mix with some of these LHW's.. Let's see Franklin vs. Jardine, let's see Franklin vs. Rashad, let's see Franklin vs. Thiago Silva, and let Vitor, Wandy, and Hendo fight the best of the MW division.. That being said, I love this fight.. True.

Obviously, Franklin will never beat Anderson. And he’ll probably never beat Machida. But, I still want to see the fight. Why keep the man in limbo and have him continually fight very tough opponents, like Wandy or Vitor, without moving him towards a title shot? I mean, I’m sure he’s fine with having these epic battles, but every fighter longs to be champion, a former champion does even more so I would think.. And maybe no one likes Rich’s chances against Machida, but why not give him a shot at redemption, and even better, a title.. He expressed recently that he doesn’t necessarily want to re-fight guys that beat him definitively. But, we all know that deep down inside, he would love to have a rematch with Machida, and he would love to be the LHW champ.

Rich is practically the best in both divisions, 185 and 205, aside from their respective champions.. So, if he’s going to fight at 205, stop giving him these 195 bouts (as much as I love them) and start getting him in the mix with some of these LHW’s.. Let’s see Franklin vs. Jardine, let’s see Franklin vs. Rashad, let’s see Franklin vs. Thiago Silva, and let Vitor, Wandy, and Hendo fight the best of the MW division..

That being said, I love this fight..

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-101080 Sergio Hernandez Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:49:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-101080 I think it's more because they had two guys who should be fighting at 185 (Wandy and Vitor) with no one at the weight to match them up against so they pluck former 185er and consummate company man Franklin to shed ten pounds. And to be honest, I think this is what's best for Franklin. He's never going to be a champ at 185 OR 205 as long as Silva and Machida are champs. And he's already said this most recent contract will likely be his last. So put him in some dream matches and let him rake in the dough. I think it’s more because they had two guys who should be fighting at 185 (Wandy and Vitor) with no one at the weight to match them up against so they pluck former 185er and consummate company man Franklin to shed ten pounds.

And to be honest, I think this is what’s best for Franklin. He’s never going to be a champ at 185 OR 205 as long as Silva and Machida are champs. And he’s already said this most recent contract will likely be his last. So put him in some dream matches and let him rake in the dough.

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]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-101077 ozz_the_powerful Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:41:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-101077 That's what I touched on earlier. I'm not a proponent of adding weight classes at all. I'm just thinking of ways they can get these guys to fight frequently, maybe 4 times a year. UFC is getting bigger.... I don't see the point of adding rounds, although some fights it would have been great (Wanderlei, Liddell). The ONLY thing I can think of is a longer PPV with more fights on the main. We already have Fight Nights, which I thoroughly enjoy. It just seems that the UFC is really starting to dable in this 195 thing. This is two main events now that are at a catch weight as of late. That’s what I touched on earlier. I’m not a proponent of adding weight classes at all. I’m just thinking of ways they can get these guys to fight frequently, maybe 4 times a year. UFC is getting bigger….

I don’t see the point of adding rounds, although some fights it would have been great (Wanderlei, Liddell). The ONLY thing I can think of is a longer PPV with more fights on the main. We already have Fight Nights, which I thoroughly enjoy.

It just seems that the UFC is really starting to dable in this 195 thing. This is two main events now that are at a catch weight as of late.

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-101074 Sergio Hernandez Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:28:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-101074 I don't really like the idea of a 195 division. It reminds me too much of boxing and how they seemingly have a new weight class every 3.36 pounds. I don’t really like the idea of a 195 division.

It reminds me too much of boxing and how they seemingly have a new weight class every 3.36 pounds.

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]]> By: Bullylover http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-100799 Bullylover Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:29:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-100799 By the way ozz -sweet av By the way ozz -sweet av

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]]> By: Bullylover http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-100796 Bullylover Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:28:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-100796 if vitor wins and goes down to 185 i'd love to see him face wand,henderson,gouvia or marquardt before facing silva for the fight. those fights would be great and show just how great belfort really is at 85. if he can get by at least 2-3 of these guys then he is definately ready for gold. as for a cruiser-weight class i dont know. I guess it would be great if we wanted to see the best MW aginst the best Lhw or just some great fights. a few fights that sound good are marquardt/bonnar, evans/belfort, shogun/marquardt, shogun/belfort, leben/t.silva. any other matchups to think of? if vitor wins and goes down to 185 i’d love to see him face wand,henderson,gouvia or marquardt before facing silva for the fight. those fights would be great and show just how great belfort really is at 85. if he can get by at least 2-3 of these guys then he is definately ready for gold. as for a cruiser-weight class i dont know. I guess it would be great if we wanted to see the best MW aginst the best Lhw or just some great fights. a few fights that sound good are marquardt/bonnar, evans/belfort, shogun/marquardt, shogun/belfort, leben/t.silva. any other matchups to think of?

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]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-100697 ozz_the_powerful Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:55:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-100697 Anyone? Pros, cons? Anyone?

Pros, cons?

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]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-100590 ozz_the_powerful Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:19:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-100590 Thoughts on a Cruiser weight (195) division??? Thoughts on a Cruiser weight (195) division???

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-100580 fanoftna33 Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:45:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-100580 The ufc is acually following the lead of strikeforce by adding catchweight bouts basically just for the fans. It is a great thing for them to add. The ufc is acually following the lead of strikeforce by adding catchweight bouts basically just for the fans. It is a great thing for them to add.

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]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-100577 hindsightufuk Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:22:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-100577 got to agree that is an entertaining looking card got to agree that is an entertaining looking card

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]]> By: dpk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-100443 dpk Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:42:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-100443 I agree with the general feeling on this card, this is an deep card, with lots of good fights that could produce some serious fireworks. I agree with the general feeling on this card, this is an deep card, with lots of good fights that could produce some serious fireworks.

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]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-100411 ozz_the_powerful Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:46:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-100411 On the flip side of that, with the UFC getting bigger in all aspects, commercially and roster wise, maybe this is them making another dabble at a possible 195 pound weight class? Whoever would have thought we would have seen a catchweight bout as the main event, let alone twice? (UFC's 99 & 103) On the flip side of that, with the UFC getting bigger in all aspects, commercially and roster wise, maybe this is them making another dabble at a possible 195 pound weight class?

Whoever would have thought we would have seen a catchweight bout as the main event, let alone twice? (UFC’s 99 & 103)

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]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-100355 ozz_the_powerful Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:17:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-100355 I'm actually excited about 103 now. There's at least 6 fights I'm truly interested in. I agree with the 195 change too. That's 10 pounds for either fighter, and should be easier for both of them, let alone fair. "Welcome back, Vitor.... Let's have you fight Franklin." I'm glad to see they aren't babying Vitor at his first fight back. This should be an EXCELLENT tool to judge where Vitor is against top quality opponents. If he makes quick work of Franklin, I see gold in his NEAR future. I’m actually excited about 103 now. There’s at least 6 fights I’m truly interested in. I agree with the 195 change too. That’s 10 pounds for either fighter, and should be easier for both of them, let alone fair.

“Welcome back, Vitor…. Let’s have you fight Franklin.”

I’m glad to see they aren’t babying Vitor at his first fight back. This should be an EXCELLENT tool to judge where Vitor is against top quality opponents.

If he makes quick work of Franklin, I see gold in his NEAR future.

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-100354 Jstew3785 Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:49:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-100354 Hell Yeah. This card is stacked now. I will definitely be there for this one. This completely and totally makes so much more sense now. Fan, you are 100% right. This is completely for the fans, just like the Franklin/Wanderlai fight. I can't wait for this one Hell Yeah. This card is stacked now. I will definitely be there for this one. This completely and totally makes so much more sense now. Fan, you are 100% right. This is completely for the fans, just like the Franklin/Wanderlai fight. I can’t wait for this one

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-100243 Rich S. Sat, 01 Aug 2009 06:53:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-100243 That's an amazing card That’s an amazing card

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/rich-franklin-vs-vitor-belfort-to-take-place-at-195-pounds/comment-page-1/#comment-100239 fanoftna33 Sat, 01 Aug 2009 05:54:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16023#comment-100239 Now this fight is offically just for the fans. Now this fight is offically just for the fans.

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