Comments on: Waiting to Exhale: The Fedor/UFC Rendition http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 27 May 2012 00:47:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: ericsupermann http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-101082 ericsupermann Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:56:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-101082 Years ago Martial arts was known to be technique and skill, now it invloves conditioning athletizism speed Size are all serious aspects of the mma world tech and skill can be nuturalized if the other avenues are a bit lacking and vise a versa. To be a true champion you mush be developed at a high level to compete as a world champion. Fedor- Mostly his fights have with has beens-- he himself has a bit of a gut and man boobs hes a bit soft, his skill on the other hand is at the top of the game, One knock out mark me words of Fedor and the world will be laughing at his outlandish unrealistic requests. As time goes on the new mma athlete will submerge the past heroes who like Fedor are not total packages and where able to servive fighting substandard mma fighters. If you look threw the past 15 years the have evolved and will continue to do so. At what point does one become a coward for not fighting the top of the game contenders or is it that Fedor knows if hes knocked out the money will get less and less. Fedors excact words where "it not the money or the desire to prove myself against the best in the world, I want to develope M1 Globel and co operate. Look up M1 global on the internet Fedors the part Owner Vice pres and only member, its embarrassing the fact that this M1 is the tree in the road is an insult to other true champions and fans around the world. M1 wants half of ufc profit for the entire night. Its like saying I invented a cool amusement ride and demand half of disneys money to share my invention no matter how fun my ride is my request is unreasonable. When people in the world act erashional and make weird unpopular descisions in a market with this kind of fan base it just makes it fun to talk about it bottom line fedor is A. a coward- avoiding Brock and Randy-maybe hes waiting when randy gets to be 50 B.or hes reaching way to high and should stick to fighting no his role and appreciate he can get a little bit more then any other fighter on earth I truley believe its a bit of both Years ago Martial arts was known to be technique and skill, now it invloves conditioning athletizism speed Size are all serious aspects of the mma world tech and skill can be nuturalized if the other avenues are a bit lacking and vise a versa. To be a true champion you mush be developed at a high level to compete as a world champion.

Fedor- Mostly his fights have with has beens– he himself has a bit of a gut and man boobs hes a bit soft, his skill on the other hand is at the top of the game,

One knock out mark me words of Fedor and the world will be laughing at his outlandish unrealistic requests. As time goes on the new mma athlete will submerge the past heroes who like Fedor are not total packages and where able to servive fighting substandard mma fighters. If you look threw the past 15 years the have evolved and will continue to do so.

At what point does one become a coward for not fighting the top of the game contenders or is it that Fedor knows if hes knocked out the money will get less and less.

Fedors excact words where “it not the money or the desire to prove myself against the best in the world, I want to develope M1 Globel and co operate.

Look up M1 global on the internet Fedors the part Owner Vice pres and only member, its embarrassing the fact that this M1 is the tree in the road is an insult to other true champions and fans around the world. M1 wants half of ufc profit for the entire night.

Its like saying I invented a cool amusement ride and demand half of disneys money to share my invention no matter how fun my ride is my request is unreasonable. When people in the world act erashional and make weird unpopular descisions in a market with this kind of fan base it just makes it fun to talk about it bottom line fedor is

A. a coward- avoiding Brock and Randy-maybe hes waiting when randy gets to be 50
B.or hes reaching way to high and should stick to fighting

no his role and appreciate he can get a little bit more then any other fighter on earth

I truley believe its a bit of both

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]]> By: meatloaf http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-101075 meatloaf Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:29:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-101075 This above post is reason enough to just read the articles but not the comments from now on. This above post is reason enough to just read the articles but not the comments from now on.

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]]> By: ericsupermann http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-101071 ericsupermann Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:55:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-101071 Nogueira, CroCop, Randleman, Coleman, Babalu Sobral,are at least recognizable names but besides Nogerira are not worthy of heavyweight championship recognition. As I know you would agree size is such a small part of mma But that being said when it is applied to Brocks athleticism is unstoppable so it would appear. FEdor is in no where near the condition of Brock the best oppoinant fro Brock I truly believe was Randy. Fedor I beleive is creating reasons to avoid UFC lets face it they have the best heavyweight division in the world, a true champion would challenge this arena money is not the issue nor compatition was FEdors statement, thats purely idiotsy in the industry. He was offered the highest offer in history of mma and easily turned it down. If you read the nmma news espn ect... he seems to be loosing respect by the minute. If you havent fought Randy, MIr, Brock,and only 1 of the top 10 ranked fighters in the world then at what point is is consider frightened or cowardly? Nogueira, CroCop, Randleman, Coleman, Babalu Sobral,are at least recognizable names but besides Nogerira are not worthy of heavyweight championship recognition. As I know you would agree size is such a small part of mma But that being said when it is applied to Brocks athleticism is unstoppable so it would appear. FEdor is in no where near the condition of Brock the best oppoinant fro Brock I truly believe was Randy.

Fedor I beleive is creating reasons to avoid UFC lets face it they have the best heavyweight division in the world, a true champion would challenge this arena money is not the issue nor compatition was FEdors statement, thats purely idiotsy in the industry. He was offered the highest offer in history of mma and easily turned it down. If you read the nmma news espn ect… he seems to be loosing respect by the minute. If you havent fought Randy, MIr, Brock,and only 1 of the top 10 ranked fighters in the world then at what point is is consider frightened or cowardly?

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]]> By: mu_shin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100906 mu_shin Sun, 02 Aug 2009 06:01:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100906 Jak, there are no comparisons to Lesnar. I'm simply stating that Fedor has dealt with huge size disparities in the past. Physics is physics, whatever your opinion of the opponent's record, and Fedor, at 6' 230 pounds, has overcome these much bigger opponents. I think that gives him the experiential knowledge base to deal with Brock in a way that no other active heavyweight can, at least at the present time. My real point, as I think you agreed, is that Fedor is not scared to meet Brock in the ring, and if and when he does, I think he has the best chance at overcoming all of Lesnar's obvious advantages. Unlike a lot of other "fans", I did not know Lesnar as a WWE wrestler, and my only opinion of him has to do with what I've seen in the cage. He has learned more in a shorter time than any MMA fighter I've ever seen, and I've been watching this sport since 1993. I have no opinion of his personality or media persona; I simply think he could be the most naturally gifted, hardest working, hardest training heavyweight to enter the sport, and if and when he and Fedor ever meet, it will be a colossal battle, and a great fight. Finally, watch the Semmy Schiltz fight, as I did recently on line, and tell me you don't think Schiltz is a worthy opponent, regardless of his record. Fedor proved himself multiple times against Nogueira, CroCop, Randleman, Coleman, Babalu Sobral, and people always bring up Fujita, who actually proved Emelianenko is human and can be rocked. None of these fights were so long ago that his skills have deteriorated in any demonstrable way. Fedor exemplifies the indomitable spirit, unbending intent, and unbreakable will of a true champion, and until someone holds him down and submits him or seperates him from consciousness, I will assert that he is the best. At present it doesn't look like we'll ever see Lesnar/Emelianenko, but as fans, we can continue to hope maybe some day... Jak, there are no comparisons to Lesnar. I’m simply stating that Fedor has dealt with huge size disparities in the past. Physics is physics, whatever your opinion of the opponent’s record, and Fedor, at 6′ 230 pounds, has overcome these much bigger opponents. I think that gives him the experiential knowledge base to deal with Brock in a way that no other active heavyweight can, at least at the present time. My real point, as I think you agreed, is that Fedor is not scared to meet Brock in the ring, and if and when he does, I think he has the best chance at overcoming all of Lesnar’s obvious advantages.

Unlike a lot of other “fans”, I did not know Lesnar as a WWE wrestler, and my only opinion of him has to do with what I’ve seen in the cage. He has learned more in a shorter time than any MMA fighter I’ve ever seen, and I’ve been watching this sport since 1993. I have no opinion of his personality or media persona; I simply think he could be the most naturally gifted, hardest working, hardest training heavyweight to enter the sport, and if and when he and Fedor ever meet, it will be a colossal battle, and a great fight.

Finally, watch the Semmy Schiltz fight, as I did recently on line, and tell me you don’t think Schiltz is a worthy opponent, regardless of his record. Fedor proved himself multiple times against Nogueira, CroCop, Randleman, Coleman, Babalu Sobral, and people always bring up Fujita, who actually proved Emelianenko is human and can be rocked. None of these fights were so long ago that his skills have deteriorated in any demonstrable way. Fedor exemplifies the indomitable spirit, unbending intent, and unbreakable will of a true champion, and until someone holds him down and submits him or seperates him from consciousness, I will assert that he is the best. At present it doesn’t look like we’ll ever see Lesnar/Emelianenko, but as fans, we can continue to hope maybe some day…

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]]> By: Jak http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100901 Jak Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:07:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100901 mu_shin... i'm not arguing on the "fedor is scared" part, but did you just compare Brock Lesnar to Hong Man Choi and Zuluzino? Not trying to be critical, but those are rather poor comparisons based on the fact most people who are fans of Lesnar will undoubtedly will point to his crazy amount of athleticism as much as they will his size. Neither of those guys are very athletic. I'm not really sure Fedor vs. HMC would have ended the same if HMC was as fast and explosive as a running back and had the ground ability and wrestling strengths that a green Lesnar possesses. And not to be critical of Shilt, but that guy loses EVERY time he faces anybody of note, he has his whole career. I'm not saying Fedor wouldn't win, i'm just saying that those are very good comparisons. :) mu_shin…

i’m not arguing on the “fedor is scared” part, but did you just compare Brock Lesnar to Hong Man Choi and Zuluzino?

Not trying to be critical, but those are rather poor comparisons based on the fact most people who are fans of Lesnar will undoubtedly will point to his crazy amount of athleticism as much as they will his size. Neither of those guys are very athletic.

I’m not really sure Fedor vs. HMC would have ended the same if HMC was as fast and explosive as a running back and had the ground ability and wrestling strengths that a green Lesnar possesses.

And not to be critical of Shilt, but that guy loses EVERY time he faces anybody of note, he has his whole career.

I’m not saying Fedor wouldn’t win, i’m just saying that those are very good comparisons. :)

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]]> By: mu_shin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100898 mu_shin Sun, 02 Aug 2009 04:33:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100898 Mu_Shin's Considered Opinion: Anyone who thinks Fedor is afraid of Brock Lesnar needs to check out his fights with Semmy Schiltz (6'11" 285lbs.), Zuluzino (6'7" 390lbs.), and Hong-Man Choi (7'2" 330lbs). Schiltz is bigger than Lesnar, an excellent wrestler, and while it was not the most exciting fight in the annals of MMA, it was a convincing win for Fedor. No, it was not last week, but neither was it so long ago that Fedor's skills have deteriorated in any noticeable way. Notice I do not include Tim Sylvia in this grouping, as he is also bigger than Lesnar and much bigger than Fedor, but never had the well rounded skills to be a serious challenge to Emelianenko. I also believe Arlovski was released by the UFC for good reason: fast hands and glass jaw... There has been a well conceived well constructed myth woven around Fedor, absolving him from personal responsibility in all of the important business decisions invlolved in his MMA career. It may be that his lack of English language skills make it easy for us to believe that he could be so thoroughly manipulated by the evil Finkelchtein, or the Russian Mob, or pod people from an alien universe far far away... Emelianenko is a part owner of M-1 Global. Vadim Finkelchtein has been portrayed as a fiduciary representative who administers Fedor's best interests in regard to his fighting career. I suspect that the reality is closer to a partnership, and that Finkelchtein is actally Fedor's English speaking mouthpiece. Plain and simple: Fedor perceives some business advantage to not making a UFC deal at this time, and will not do so until he believes it is in his best interest, and at such a time as to maximize his personal benefit. He is not the unsuspecting dupe of an malevolent management team; he is the team. Fedor has made good money to this point in his career, and whoever he fights for in whatever promotion, I believe he will continue to do so. I also believe he will continue to win, as whoever he ends up in the ring/cage with, he has demonstrated the indomitable spirit, unbending intent, and unbreakable will that make a true champion, and will continue to do so. Mu_Shin’s Considered Opinion:

Anyone who thinks Fedor is afraid of Brock Lesnar needs to check out his fights with Semmy Schiltz (6’11″ 285lbs.), Zuluzino (6’7″ 390lbs.), and Hong-Man Choi (7’2″ 330lbs). Schiltz is bigger than Lesnar, an excellent wrestler, and while it was not the most exciting fight in the annals of MMA, it was a convincing win for Fedor. No, it was not last week, but neither was it so long ago that Fedor’s skills have deteriorated in any noticeable way. Notice I do not include Tim Sylvia in this grouping, as he is also bigger than Lesnar and much bigger than Fedor, but never had the well rounded skills to be a serious challenge to Emelianenko. I also believe Arlovski was released by the UFC for good reason: fast hands and glass jaw…

There has been a well conceived well constructed myth woven around Fedor, absolving him from personal responsibility in all of the important business decisions invlolved in his MMA career. It may be that his lack of English language skills make it easy for us to believe that he could be so thoroughly manipulated by the evil Finkelchtein, or the Russian Mob, or pod people from an alien universe far far away…

Emelianenko is a part owner of M-1 Global. Vadim Finkelchtein has been portrayed as a fiduciary representative who administers Fedor’s best interests in regard to his fighting career. I suspect that the reality is closer to a partnership, and that Finkelchtein is actally Fedor’s English speaking mouthpiece.

Plain and simple: Fedor perceives some business advantage to not making a UFC deal at this time, and will not do so until he believes it is in his best interest, and at such a time as to maximize his personal benefit. He is not the unsuspecting dupe of an malevolent management team; he is the team. Fedor has made good money to this point in his career, and whoever he fights for in whatever promotion, I believe he will continue to do so. I also believe he will continue to win, as whoever he ends up in the ring/cage with, he has demonstrated the indomitable spirit, unbending intent, and unbreakable will that make a true champion, and will continue to do so.

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]]> By: ericsupermann http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100581 ericsupermann Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:06:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100581 Its this simple it will take one person to knock out fedor and M1 will be begging to clean UFC toilets,fedor has not been challenge only with has beens. Brock Lesner sheer size only will eat Fedor for Breakfast Fedors/M1s request are not logical and are fantacys which leads us to believe Fedor my be cowarding for easier fights. You have to beat the best to be the best we all no if your not in the UFC its usually beacuse youve been beeten out of it, Fedor has amounted to nothing my then a Jackle or Vulture going for left overs. M1 globel needs to think about taking a hike if Fedor is as dumb as he looks thell all dig a hole so deep in the anus of history of could of should of. but didnt . Its this simple it will take one person to knock out fedor and M1 will be begging to clean UFC toilets,fedor has not been challenge only with has beens.

Brock Lesner sheer size only will eat Fedor for Breakfast Fedors/M1s request are not logical and are fantacys which leads us to believe Fedor my be cowarding for easier fights.

You have to beat the best to be the best we all no if your not in the UFC its usually beacuse youve been beeten out of it,

Fedor has amounted to nothing my then a Jackle or Vulture going for left overs.

M1 globel needs to think about taking a hike if Fedor is as dumb as he looks thell all dig a hole so deep in the anus of history of could of should of. but didnt .

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]]> By: Jak http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100567 Jak Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:35:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100567 I do find it funny that Fedor fans bash the UFC HW's when the reality is that there really aren't a whole lot of HW's worldwide that are above the competition. Overeem, Rogers and that's about it. Buent, Monson, Werdum are all out of the UFC. I'll take "future prospects" like dos Santos, Velasquez, Lesnar and Carwin any day over guys that have already shown they're not the top HW's. Although i don't understand what it is about Fedor that makes his fans or bashers so pissy all the time. Some people need to take a deep breath and relax. I do find it funny that Fedor fans bash the UFC HW’s when the reality is that there really aren’t a whole lot of HW’s worldwide that are above the competition.

Overeem, Rogers and that’s about it. Buent, Monson, Werdum are all out of the UFC.

I’ll take “future prospects” like dos Santos, Velasquez, Lesnar and Carwin any day over guys that have already shown they’re not the top HW’s.

Although i don’t understand what it is about Fedor that makes his fans or bashers so pissy all the time. Some people need to take a deep breath and relax.

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]]> By: twyg http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100557 twyg Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:00:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100557 I do not believe fedor fears brock or the cage if that were the case why would he be willing to have one fight? With one fight if he loses that is all she wrote. Contract was for 6 fights, which means even if he loses he still has 5 fights for a shit ton of money. That is called job security. We may never know why fedor did not sign this contract, because it just seems illogical to not do so. I have to blame fedor and not his managment because in the end it is his name that either does or does not go on the dotted line I do not believe fedor fears brock or the cage if that were the case why would he be willing to have one fight? With one fight if he loses that is all she wrote. Contract was for 6 fights, which means even if he loses he still has 5 fights for a shit ton of money. That is called job security. We may never know why fedor did not sign this contract, because it just seems illogical to not do so. I have to blame fedor and not his managment because in the end it is his name that either does or does not go on the dotted line

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]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100552 ozz_the_powerful Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:42:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100552 WOOOOOWW!! You're trying to instigate a riot huh? I'll tell you what, why don't you scroll through all the stories on here, find my avatar blasted all over, actually take the time to actually read my comments, then make your own assesment. God forbid it's been a slow news day and people are just shooting the shit and having a few laughs. Yesterday I told Dr. Stoppage to drink a cup of coffee. You need to push the cup away, friend. WOOOOOWW!!

You’re trying to instigate a riot huh?

I’ll tell you what, why don’t you scroll through all the stories on here, find my avatar blasted all over, actually take the time to actually read my comments, then make your own assesment.

God forbid it’s been a slow news day and people are just shooting the shit and having a few laughs.

Yesterday I told Dr. Stoppage to drink a cup of coffee.
You need to push the cup away, friend.

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]]> By: meatloaf http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100549 meatloaf Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:31:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100549 These last two posts might be the dumbest fucking posts I've ever read on this site and that's saying something. What happened to this site you used to get somewhat knowledgeable mma fans visiting here reading the stories and occasionally posting a comment. Now it's filled with mostly all TUF Noobs who feel the need to post a hundred comments of UFC biased opinions every day without really any worthwhile input at all. If this keeps this website will be nearly as bad as bloodyelbow.com is. A question for these guys who are always posting comments on these sites do you just talk about MMA or do you ever actually sit down and watch fights without being influenced by other TUF Noobs on MMA blogs? These last two posts might be the dumbest fucking posts I’ve ever read on this site and that’s saying something.

What happened to this site you used to get somewhat knowledgeable mma fans visiting here reading the stories and occasionally posting a comment. Now it’s filled with mostly all TUF Noobs who feel the need to post a hundred comments of UFC biased opinions every day without really any worthwhile input at all.

If this keeps this website will be nearly as bad as bloodyelbow.com is.

A question for these guys who are always posting comments on these sites do you just talk about MMA or do you ever actually sit down and watch fights without being influenced by other TUF Noobs on MMA blogs?

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]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100546 ozz_the_powerful Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:17:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100546 It's one thing to get in a ring and stare down your oppenent. It's completely another to get in a steel cage, stare your opponent down, walk back to your corner looking at the crowd through woven steel, see the cameras & announcer exit, and HEAR the cage door slam and be pinned shut, knowing there is no escape until someone is declared the victor. Damn, I got chillys just typing that, LOL It’s one thing to get in a ring and stare down your oppenent.

It’s completely another to get in a steel cage, stare your opponent down, walk back to your corner looking at the crowd through woven steel, see the cameras & announcer exit, and HEAR the cage door slam and be pinned shut, knowing there is no escape until someone is declared the victor.

Damn, I got chillys just typing that, LOL

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]]> By: Madmax http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100531 Madmax Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:59:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100531 FEDOR FEARS THE OCTAGON! All this Co-promo crap is just a way to smokescreen the issue."The Last Chicken" has seen what happened to CC and others that came from other orgs that use a RING (Pussy MMA in my book).There aint no place to run and hide in the cage, no funky resets when guys hide in the ropes. FEDOR has never fought in a CAGE, only in the pussified ring, and conveniently uses Vadim and the Co-promo issue as the deal-breaker so he doesnt look bad and can later blame The Fink for NEVER fighting in the UFC. FEDOR WILL NEVER ENTER THE OCTAGON TO FIGHT!!! After this latest situation, I think DANA knows it too. IF FE wanted to sign for the BIG BUCKS 5-7(with PPV)mil per fight, he'd tell the fink to take a hike and sign. Madmax FEDOR FEARS THE OCTAGON! All this Co-promo crap is just a way to smokescreen the issue.”The Last Chicken” has seen what happened to CC and others that came from other orgs that use a RING (Pussy MMA in my book).There aint no place to run and hide in the cage, no funky resets when guys hide in the ropes. FEDOR has never fought in a CAGE, only in the pussified ring, and conveniently uses Vadim and the Co-promo issue as the deal-breaker so he doesnt look bad and can later blame The Fink for NEVER fighting in the UFC.
FEDOR WILL NEVER ENTER THE OCTAGON TO FIGHT!!! After this latest situation, I think DANA knows it too. IF FE wanted to sign for the BIG BUCKS 5-7(with PPV)mil per fight, he’d tell the fink to take a hike and sign.

Madmax

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100507 Jstew3785 Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:43:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100507 F*ck M-1, F*ck Vadim, and F*ck Fedor. Sorry, but that's all I can feel right now. F*ck them all and anyone who looks like them F*ck M-1, F*ck Vadim, and F*ck Fedor. Sorry, but that’s all I can feel right now. F*ck them all and anyone who looks like them

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]]> By: moosebaby02 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100495 moosebaby02 Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:38:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100495 oh and ozz your theroy of him waiting it out hoping lesnar lose's the belt to come in after his contract is done with M-1 could be a possibility oh and ozz your theroy of him waiting it out hoping lesnar lose’s the belt to come in after his contract is done with M-1 could be a possibility

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]]> By: moosebaby02 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100468 moosebaby02 Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:22:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100468 no ???? needed after disney movies sorry no ???? needed after disney movies sorry

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]]> By: moosebaby02 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100466 moosebaby02 Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:21:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100466 ozz_the_powerful, Dave d, notdanawhite, you all make sense. I am not going to comment on the people on here who have no idea what there talking about cause that would be like talking to M-1 management. A waste of time. Just because fedor beat some cast offs from the ufc does not mean he is the best. You talk to any fighter who is not in the ufc their main goal is to get into the ufc. You don’t hear them saying my main goal as mma fighter is to fight for strikeforce or affliction may they rest in peace. And why??? Because that’s where the best fighters are and that’s where all the $$$ are as well. And blast me all you want about “it’s not about the money” cause everything on this planet is based on the mighty dollar and any fool who believes any different needs to go back to watching Disney movies??? Correct me if im wrong but does fedor not own some part of M-1???? And if he does then wouldn’t he have some say to what HE WANTS TO DO. Oh wait he wants to let the puppet master do all his talking for him so when it all boils down it’s not his fault. Read notdanawhite’s post…COMPLET COMMON SENSE. Better yet read two or three times just in case you don’t get it cause right there is what M-1 wants and in the long run its about $$$$$$$ my friends. If fedor wants to fight in the ufc he would have singed by now. He just wants max out as much cash as possible because he knows all that’s going to happen is when he gets in the cage with lesnar he is going to get taken down, held there, and get punched in the face over and over and over until the ref stops It witch would be the end of M-1 cause fedor is all they have. And that’s not me being a lesnar fan because I can’t stand him. Dave d 1st post is dead on. The ufc just banned a bunch of companies a few weeks ago over $$$ (witch I thought is damn greedy of them for what they were asking) but still is willing to let your fighter have logos all over himself, on the mat of the cage, then plain and simple IT’S A CO-PROMOTION. They just want half of what ufc will make because they can’t do it themselves. So with ufc offering so much (witch we all don’t know cause none of us were there) everything boils down to M-1 wanting co-promotion. Hmmmmmm sounds like an excuse to me not to get my ass kicked with out maxing out on everything I can ozz_the_powerful, Dave d, notdanawhite, you all make sense. I am not going to comment on the people on here who have no idea what there talking about cause that would be like talking to M-1 management. A waste of time. Just because fedor beat some cast offs from the ufc does not mean he is the best. You talk to any fighter who is not in the ufc their main goal is to get into the ufc. You don’t hear them saying my main goal as mma fighter is to fight for strikeforce or affliction may they rest in peace. And why??? Because that’s where the best fighters are and that’s where all the $$$ are as well. And blast me all you want about “it’s not about the money” cause everything on this planet is based on the mighty dollar and any fool who believes any different needs to go back to watching Disney movies??? Correct me if im wrong but does fedor not own some part of M-1???? And if he does then wouldn’t he have some say to what HE WANTS TO DO. Oh wait he wants to let the puppet master do all his talking for him so when it all boils down it’s not his fault. Read notdanawhite’s post…COMPLET COMMON SENSE. Better yet read two or three times just in case you don’t get it cause right there is what M-1 wants and in the long run its about $$$$$$$ my friends. If fedor wants to fight in the ufc he would have singed by now. He just wants max out as much cash as possible because he knows all that’s going to happen is when he gets in the cage with lesnar he is going to get taken down, held there, and get punched in the face over and over and over until the ref stops It witch would be the end of M-1 cause fedor is all they have. And that’s not me being a lesnar fan because I can’t stand him. Dave d 1st post is dead on. The ufc just banned a bunch of companies a few weeks ago over $$$ (witch I thought is damn greedy of them for what they were asking) but still is willing to let your fighter have logos all over himself, on the mat of the cage, then plain and simple IT’S A CO-PROMOTION. They just want half of what ufc will make because they can’t do it themselves. So with ufc offering so much (witch we all don’t know cause none of us were there) everything boils down to M-1 wanting co-promotion. Hmmmmmm sounds like an excuse to me not to get my ass kicked with out maxing out on everything I can

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]]> By: dpk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100447 dpk Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:11:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100447 The end result of this is that I fully expect UFC to continue grabbing every quality HW that they can get their hands on (Rogers, Alex (If he can pass medicals), monson, Lashley, Bigfoot). I don't think they will worry about someone like Werdum, because they can always counter program Fedor v Werdum with UFC 90, to make sure everyone sees him get KTFO'd by Dos Santos about 45 minutes before his fight with Fedor is suppose to air. They are also going to be picking up a lot of prospects, I wouldn't be surprised if season 12 of TUF went back to HWs, even if they split it with LHWs, just to get some more guys in with some publicity behind them. After all this BS in negotiating with Fedor, I'm sure UFC will try and find and sign the "Next Fedor" before he can get big time in another organization. The end result of this is that I fully expect UFC to continue grabbing every quality HW that they can get their hands on (Rogers, Alex (If he can pass medicals), monson, Lashley, Bigfoot). I don’t think they will worry about someone like Werdum, because they can always counter program Fedor v Werdum with UFC 90, to make sure everyone sees him get KTFO’d by Dos Santos about 45 minutes before his fight with Fedor is suppose to air. They are also going to be picking up a lot of prospects, I wouldn’t be surprised if season 12 of TUF went back to HWs, even if they split it with LHWs, just to get some more guys in with some publicity behind them. After all this BS in negotiating with Fedor, I’m sure UFC will try and find and sign the “Next Fedor” before he can get big time in another organization.

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]]> By: Davey D http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100446 Davey D Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:03:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100446 good stuff...yeah, as pissed as I am about this whole thing. Fedor Emelianenko has done some awesome, awesome stuff in his career. His war's with Nogueira are legendary. He put on some of the most unbelievable performances in Pride FC that I have ever witnessed. That will never change. The present day is what he has to deal with now. I just hope he makes the right choice for himself & his Family. In the end, that is all we have. good stuff…yeah, as pissed as I am about this whole thing. Fedor Emelianenko has done some awesome, awesome stuff in his career. His war’s with Nogueira are legendary. He put on some of the most unbelievable performances in Pride FC that I have ever witnessed. That will never change.

The present day is what he has to deal with now. I just hope he makes the right choice for himself & his Family. In the end, that is all we have.

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]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/31/waiting-to-exhale-the-fedorufc-rendition/comment-page-1/#comment-100444 ozz_the_powerful Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:50:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16014#comment-100444 That's a great analysis. There's just SO many variables and could-be's, you could get 20 scenarios in your head by just giving laxidasical thought. The only thing I think is even if he goes to SF and wins the belt, cleans it out and all, with the way he turnes his back on the UFC, let alone the fact that there should be no viable competition outside the UFC by that point, I think his stock STILL might actually go down. I don't think Dana will offer the same terms b/c in his mind, where else will he have to go? Dream won't have a TV deal after DREAM 12. Who else could pay him? I know he says it's not about the money, but they still have to pay him SOMETHING. After his run in SF, he will have no other option than to either come to UFC, or retire with all the questions STILL in our heads. That’s a great analysis. There’s just SO many variables and could-be’s, you could get 20 scenarios in your head by just giving laxidasical thought.

The only thing I think is even if he goes to SF and wins the belt, cleans it out and all, with the way he turnes his back on the UFC, let alone the fact that there should be no viable competition outside the UFC by that point, I think his stock STILL might actually go down.

I don’t think Dana will offer the same terms b/c in his mind, where else will he have to go? Dream won’t have a TV deal after DREAM 12. Who else could pay him? I know he says it’s not about the money, but they still have to pay him SOMETHING. After his run in SF, he will have no other option than to either come to UFC, or retire with all the questions STILL in our heads.

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