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	<title>Comments on: Cyborg Batters Carano To Claim Strikeforce Championship</title>
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		<title>By: submit662266</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gina never looked confident, even during the walk-in. Some of her comments before the fight even seemed hopeless. Cyborg, just the opposite, never looked threatened. At first I didn&#039;t understand why Gina stood up when she had Cyborg in the mount, but I think this explains it: she was afraid of Cyborg&#039;s BJJ. Cyborg is the real deal, and Gina needs to work on the holes in her game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina never looked confident, even during the walk-in. Some of her comments before the fight even seemed hopeless. Cyborg, just the opposite, never looked threatened. At first I didn&#8217;t understand why Gina stood up when she had Cyborg in the mount, but I think this explains it: she was afraid of Cyborg&#8217;s BJJ. Cyborg is the real deal, and Gina needs to work on the holes in her game.</p>
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		<title>By: roshambo</title>
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		<dc:creator>roshambo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 06:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The talk of Strikeforce having all their eggs in one basket is crazy. Even if Fedor turns into epic fail and Gina fades a bit it won&#039;t really matter. Strikeforce is not Affliction or Elite XC. They are not a start up promotion without money in the bank throwing millions of dollars at B level fighters. Strikeforce has been around for years and turned a profit for years. They started small and have grown over time. If the whole Fedor and Gina thing doesn&#039;t pan out i&#039;m sure they will be fine doing the thing they have done for the last few years. While they don&#039;t have the biggest names in the sport they still put on a decent show and it is affordable. I went to the event and sat ring side. It was my first live MMA event. You can get tickets on the floor for 92 bucks, see a bunch of exciting fights, get to meet MMA stars like Gracie, Faber etc. and have a really fun night at an affordable price. I love the UFC and it is my Favorite but sitting ring side at a UFC event isn&#039;t something I can ever see spending the money on. So while Strikeforce isn&#039;t the UFC, I certainly won&#039;t knock them and I am glad to have them around in my backyard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The talk of Strikeforce having all their eggs in one basket is crazy. Even if Fedor turns into epic fail and Gina fades a bit it won&#8217;t really matter. Strikeforce is not Affliction or Elite XC. They are not a start up promotion without money in the bank throwing millions of dollars at B level fighters. Strikeforce has been around for years and turned a profit for years. They started small and have grown over time. If the whole Fedor and Gina thing doesn&#8217;t pan out i&#8217;m sure they will be fine doing the thing they have done for the last few years. While they don&#8217;t have the biggest names in the sport they still put on a decent show and it is affordable. I went to the event and sat ring side. It was my first live MMA event. You can get tickets on the floor for 92 bucks, see a bunch of exciting fights, get to meet MMA stars like Gracie, Faber etc. and have a really fun night at an affordable price. I love the UFC and it is my Favorite but sitting ring side at a UFC event isn&#8217;t something I can ever see spending the money on. So while Strikeforce isn&#8217;t the UFC, I certainly won&#8217;t knock them and I am glad to have them around in my backyard.</p>
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		<title>By: sigmund</title>
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		<dc:creator>sigmund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if it was just the dominant aggressive nature of cyborg that just overwhelmed Gina, but she did make several amature moves/decisions in that round that very well could have cost her the fight.  It&#039;s definatly not hard to tell that cyborg trains with chutebox she&#039;s got that same trademark style you see in many of wand/anderson silva&#039;s fights quite impressive. I just hope that now that America&#039;s face of woman&#039;s MMA isn&#039;t champ it doesn&#039;t just fade away</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if it was just the dominant aggressive nature of cyborg that just overwhelmed Gina, but she did make several amature moves/decisions in that round that very well could have cost her the fight.  It&#8217;s definatly not hard to tell that cyborg trains with chutebox she&#8217;s got that same trademark style you see in many of wand/anderson silva&#8217;s fights quite impressive. I just hope that now that America&#8217;s face of woman&#8217;s MMA isn&#8217;t champ it doesn&#8217;t just fade away</p>
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		<title>By: CMT</title>
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		<dc:creator>CMT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We watched this fight with a few newbies.  The one comment that kept coming out of their mouth is that Carano looked as if she did not come to fight.  Imagine the best redneck accent - &quot;when she goin to show up&quot;.  that pretty much sums up the whole fight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We watched this fight with a few newbies.  The one comment that kept coming out of their mouth is that Carano looked as if she did not come to fight.  Imagine the best redneck accent &#8211; &#8220;when she goin to show up&#8221;.  that pretty much sums up the whole fight!</p>
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		<title>By: fanoftna33</title>
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		<dc:creator>fanoftna33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was a fun fight to watch, maybe some ring rust on Gina though, but Cyborg answered all the questions about her chin and then some. People wanted to see if she could take a punch from a real heavy hitter and she never even flinched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was a fun fight to watch, maybe some ring rust on Gina though, but Cyborg answered all the questions about her chin and then some. People wanted to see if she could take a punch from a real heavy hitter and she never even flinched.</p>
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		<title>By: twyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>twyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gina doesn&#039;t need to keep fighting, but I think in her heart (as compared to that other chick you know Cung Le) she is a fighter.  It was a bad move to let Cyborg up when Gina had mount.  She will come back stronger and with the will to win.  Whether she can withstand the onslaught of Cyborb early to get the fight to the later rounds and win has yet to be seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina doesn&#8217;t need to keep fighting, but I think in her heart (as compared to that other chick you know Cung Le) she is a fighter.  It was a bad move to let Cyborg up when Gina had mount.  She will come back stronger and with the will to win.  Whether she can withstand the onslaught of Cyborb early to get the fight to the later rounds and win has yet to be seen.</p>
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		<title>By: edub</title>
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		<dc:creator>edub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stick to being a fake ass gladiator or model Gina, leave the fighting to REAL fighters.&quot;

^This is your form of harsh criticism.

If its not fighter bashing your just not that smart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stick to being a fake ass gladiator or model Gina, leave the fighting to REAL fighters.&#8221;</p>
<p>^This is your form of harsh criticism.</p>
<p>If its not fighter bashing your just not that smart.</p>
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		<title>By: GetItOn</title>
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		<dc:creator>GetItOn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, why wouldn&#039;t Gina keep fighting?  She&#039;s got a 7-1 record and has only been fighting for just over three years.  She will make a come back and take that belt someday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, why wouldn&#8217;t Gina keep fighting?  She&#8217;s got a 7-1 record and has only been fighting for just over three years.  She will make a come back and take that belt someday.</p>
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		<title>By: hindsightufuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>hindsightufuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all the she&#039;s a man jokes are getting pretty fucking thin.

i&#039;m wondering if Gina still has the heart to fight, not like she needs to. a few movies, tv shows, commentry, whatever, she has a lot of options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all the she&#8217;s a man jokes are getting pretty fucking thin.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m wondering if Gina still has the heart to fight, not like she needs to. a few movies, tv shows, commentry, whatever, she has a lot of options.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMo, Carano&#039;s still the best womam mma fighter until Cyborg&#039;s been fully tested.  Musculature + adam&#039;s apple + baritone voice = ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMo, Carano&#8217;s still the best womam mma fighter until Cyborg&#8217;s been fully tested.  Musculature + adam&#8217;s apple + baritone voice = ?</p>
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		<title>By: BigDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@edub- First off my post on the other page was meant as a joke if it wasnt funny oh well.

Second the post on this thread might be a bite of sarcastic fighter bashing but name another so called top fighter who would ever stand up when they have someone in full mount without it being the ref standing them or the fight being stopped. I don&#039;t care what fighter it is weather its one of my fave fighters like gsp, or lil evil, or one i hate with passion like bj penn or nick diaz. if a fighter does something that colosally stupid when there getting destroyed on the feet deserve some harsh criticism.

Sorry if you dont agree but that just my opinion and places like this should be for everyone to post there opinions weather people agree or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@edub- First off my post on the other page was meant as a joke if it wasnt funny oh well.</p>
<p>Second the post on this thread might be a bite of sarcastic fighter bashing but name another so called top fighter who would ever stand up when they have someone in full mount without it being the ref standing them or the fight being stopped. I don&#8217;t care what fighter it is weather its one of my fave fighters like gsp, or lil evil, or one i hate with passion like bj penn or nick diaz. if a fighter does something that colosally stupid when there getting destroyed on the feet deserve some harsh criticism.</p>
<p>Sorry if you dont agree but that just my opinion and places like this should be for everyone to post there opinions weather people agree or not.</p>
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		<title>By: edub</title>
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		<dc:creator>edub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Carano letting Cyborg up when she had her in full mount = amature hour. Stick to being a fake ass gladiator or model Gina, leave the fighting to REAL fighters.

I had Cyborg by 1st round ko/tko so Nailed that one. It was as easy as picking her sugardaddy Randy Couture to get ko’d by Brock.&quot;



You should get banned for fighter bashing Big Dave.


Your rant on the other page is pretty stupid too. These fights were pretty easy to pick. i had all of em right too, and so did a few other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Carano letting Cyborg up when she had her in full mount = amature hour. Stick to being a fake ass gladiator or model Gina, leave the fighting to REAL fighters.</p>
<p>I had Cyborg by 1st round ko/tko so Nailed that one. It was as easy as picking her sugardaddy Randy Couture to get ko’d by Brock.&#8221;</p>
<p>You should get banned for fighter bashing Big Dave.</p>
<p>Your rant on the other page is pretty stupid too. These fights were pretty easy to pick. i had all of em right too, and so did a few other people.</p>
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		<title>By: ozz_the_powerful</title>
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		<dc:creator>ozz_the_powerful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its more along the lines of she felt the power and just knew. 

Hell, Santos was even laughing after their exchanges b/c she knew Gina couldnt hurt her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its more along the lines of she felt the power and just knew. </p>
<p>Hell, Santos was even laughing after their exchanges b/c she knew Gina couldnt hurt her.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurthee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gurthee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carano had no answer for the intensity he came out with. I just hope he represents the women&#039;s division like a real man should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carano had no answer for the intensity he came out with. I just hope he represents the women&#8217;s division like a real man should.</p>
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		<title>By: egad81</title>
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		<dc:creator>egad81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rich S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carano didn&#039;t look like herself.. I mean, all credit to Cyborg, she&#039;s a monster.. but Gina fought like crap.. maybe it was that first shot that snapped her head back.. i don&#039;t know.. but, she still has alot of things to learn.. she gets a little sloppy at times.. it would be nice to see her take this loss and become better..

Also, I&#039;m wondering who they&#039;ll give to Cyborg next..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carano didn&#8217;t look like herself.. I mean, all credit to Cyborg, she&#8217;s a monster.. but Gina fought like crap.. maybe it was that first shot that snapped her head back.. i don&#8217;t know.. but, she still has alot of things to learn.. she gets a little sloppy at times.. it would be nice to see her take this loss and become better..</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m wondering who they&#8217;ll give to Cyborg next..</p>
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		<title>By: twyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>twyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I was wrong and I am sorry.  I was at a local show tonight (XFO) and didn&#039;t watch the fight before I posted.  Just caught replay, and I still think it is a bad thing for SF that Gina lost, but Cyborg is womens W.Silva circa 5 years ago.  A fucking beast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I was wrong and I am sorry.  I was at a local show tonight (XFO) and didn&#8217;t watch the fight before I posted.  Just caught replay, and I still think it is a bad thing for SF that Gina lost, but Cyborg is womens W.Silva circa 5 years ago.  A fucking beast.</p>
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		<title>By: twyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>twyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cyborg was fav betting line wise for a reason.  I want to look at the big picture for a second.  This is the worst outcome for Strikeforce, because as an orginaztion there main marketable faces were Gina and Fedor, i think we can all agree on that.  Now with Gina not being the face of womens mma all the pressure is on Fedor.  I am not knocking Cyborg but lets face it part of Ginas appeal is that not only is she tough but she is easy on the eyes, and you can not say the same for Cyborg.  IF and this is a big IF Fedor loses one of his first two fights what resources does Coker have to market a fighter that is not known to the general public?  Can you think of what would happen if they put Fedor on CBS and they hype him as best in the world then he loses?  People would think Strikeforce is shit, which they aren&#039;t.  Strikeforce as a promotion now has all there eggs in one basket, which in my short time in life has been a reciept of disasster  ( sorry if I went a little off topic and for gramatical errors)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyborg was fav betting line wise for a reason.  I want to look at the big picture for a second.  This is the worst outcome for Strikeforce, because as an orginaztion there main marketable faces were Gina and Fedor, i think we can all agree on that.  Now with Gina not being the face of womens mma all the pressure is on Fedor.  I am not knocking Cyborg but lets face it part of Ginas appeal is that not only is she tough but she is easy on the eyes, and you can not say the same for Cyborg.  IF and this is a big IF Fedor loses one of his first two fights what resources does Coker have to market a fighter that is not known to the general public?  Can you think of what would happen if they put Fedor on CBS and they hype him as best in the world then he loses?  People would think Strikeforce is shit, which they aren&#8217;t.  Strikeforce as a promotion now has all there eggs in one basket, which in my short time in life has been a reciept of disasster  ( sorry if I went a little off topic and for gramatical errors)</p>
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		<title>By: danw84</title>
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		<dc:creator>danw84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh bigdave you&#039;re so brilliant going with the favorite. Must be easy to make the pick the majority tells you that you should make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh bigdave you&#8217;re so brilliant going with the favorite. Must be easy to make the pick the majority tells you that you should make.</p>
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		<title>By: BigDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 06:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carano letting Cyborg up when she had her in full mount = amature hour. Stick to being a fake ass gladiator or model Gina, leave the fighting to REAL fighters.

I had Cyborg by 1st round ko/tko so Nailed that one. It was as easy as picking her sugardaddy Randy Couture to get ko&#039;d by Brock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carano letting Cyborg up when she had her in full mount = amature hour. Stick to being a fake ass gladiator or model Gina, leave the fighting to REAL fighters.</p>
<p>I had Cyborg by 1st round ko/tko so Nailed that one. It was as easy as picking her sugardaddy Randy Couture to get ko&#8217;d by Brock.</p>
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