Comments on: Nogueira defeats Couture in legendary battle at UFC 102 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 23:36:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: moosebaby02 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120767 moosebaby02 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:24:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-120767 i hope not edub. would love to see Nog vs Mir 2 first i hope not edub. would love to see Nog vs Mir 2 first

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]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120682 hindsightufuk Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:15:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-120682 I think Randy's stand up comes as a suprise to some opponents cos they werent expecting him to stand and trade with them. Chuck and Tim for example, Randy was expected to take them down immediately but decided to box instead. caught them both off guard and it worked. I think Randy’s stand up comes as a suprise to some opponents cos they werent expecting him to stand and trade with them. Chuck and Tim for example, Randy was expected to take them down immediately but decided to box instead. caught them both off guard and it worked.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120359 edub Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:51:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-120359 I guess im jumping to conclusions. But I did think it was already announced. My bad. Angry Mike: You make some great points. I just feel if he wouldve pushed the his type of fight a little bit harder it mightve been a little closer. After viewing the Brock and Nog fights I just have this feeling that he thinks standup is a lot better than it really is. I guess im jumping to conclusions. But I did think it was already announced. My bad.

Angry Mike: You make some great points. I just feel if he wouldve pushed the his type of fight a little bit harder it mightve been a little closer. After viewing the Brock and Nog fights I just have this feeling that he thinks standup is a lot better than it really is.

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]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120353 Angry Mike Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:35:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-120353 In the Couture/Gonzaga fight, Couture caught Gonzaga with a big punch early in the first round and Gonzaga never recovered. That's what happened in the Couture/Nog fight, but this time Couture was on the receiving end. Because of Nog's ground game, clinching was risky, and his near submissions of Couture showed why. Couture's plan to stand with Nog was a reasonable one, especially after Nog's lackluster performance agains Mir. I can't fault Couture; it just wasn't his night. In the Couture/Gonzaga fight, Couture caught Gonzaga with a big punch early in the first round and Gonzaga never recovered. That’s what happened in the Couture/Nog fight, but this time Couture was on the receiving end. Because of Nog’s ground game, clinching was risky, and his near submissions of Couture showed why. Couture’s plan to stand with Nog was a reasonable one, especially after Nog’s lackluster performance agains Mir. I can’t fault Couture; it just wasn’t his night.

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]]> By: moosebaby02 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120351 moosebaby02 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:28:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-120351 edub did you say Mir vs Kongo?? was that announced and for when? I would like to see that one edub did you say Mir vs Kongo?? was that announced and for when? I would like to see that one

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120210 edub Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:21:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-120210 Big Nog looked great and IMO he should fight Mir if he gets through Kongo. I would also be excited for a rematch if Randy came into the next fight with a smarter game plan. He shouldve been in the clinch from ten seconds into the fight. IF he fought it how he did against Gabe than I think the fight wouldve been a lot closer. IMO his trainers dropped the ball. Big Nog looked great and IMO he should fight Mir if he gets through Kongo. I would also be excited for a rematch if Randy came into the next fight with a smarter game plan. He shouldve been in the clinch from ten seconds into the fight. IF he fought it how he did against Gabe than I think the fight wouldve been a lot closer.

IMO his trainers dropped the ball.

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120115 Jstew3785 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:12:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-120115 You're right moose, Carwin will have the title. I don't think Nog could get Carwin down to submit him though. Couture landed several flush shots on Nogueira. If Carwin hits anyone flush like that, it's lights out. Carwin IMO is really the only one with a shot of beating Lesnar. You’re right moose, Carwin will have the title. I don’t think Nog could get Carwin down to submit him though. Couture landed several flush shots on Nogueira. If Carwin hits anyone flush like that, it’s lights out. Carwin IMO is really the only one with a shot of beating Lesnar.

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]]> By: moosebaby02 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120087 moosebaby02 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:47:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-120087 i think big nog should get a title shot for this win. he wasnt right for his fight with Mair but went on with it anyways. I see him fighting after the Nov 21st HW title fight. I think he can he can choke out Carwin for the title. ya i said it Carwin will have the title after Nov 21st.....i hope i think big nog should get a title shot for this win. he wasnt right for his fight with Mair but went on with it anyways. I see him fighting after the Nov 21st HW title fight. I think he can he can choke out Carwin for the title. ya i said it Carwin will have the title after Nov 21st…..i hope

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]]> By: mu_shin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120079 mu_shin Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:33:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-120079 Nogueira looked great. Perhaps a title shot is warranted, but even having shown so well against Randy, all that would be proved in a fight against Brock is Big Nog's considerable capacity to absorb punishment. Nogueira is a master of the game, and he proved it the other night. Lesnar is just too strong, hits too hard, and has the skills to move Nogueira on the ground into a vulnerable position. Rodrigo proved he still has the heart of a lion, and as a champion, he will want to continue his quest for bigger and better fights. He earned it, and the UFC should reward him, but I see more pain in his future... Nogueira looked great. Perhaps a title shot is warranted, but even having shown so well against Randy, all that would be proved in a fight against Brock is Big Nog’s considerable capacity to absorb punishment. Nogueira is a master of the game, and he proved it the other night. Lesnar is just too strong, hits too hard, and has the skills to move Nogueira on the ground into a vulnerable position.

Rodrigo proved he still has the heart of a lion, and as a champion, he will want to continue his quest for bigger and better fights. He earned it, and the UFC should reward him, but I see more pain in his future…

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120071 fanoftna33 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:58:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-120071 I would think of thoes three fights (cro cop vs dos santos and rothwell vs velasquez) the winners of the last two should fight, big nog should be giving the next title shot imo. He was very unhealthy when he lost the belt, and proved that when healthy he is still a force, that guy does not need to have any more fights to prove his place. The others still have something to prove in the HW division in the ufc and should getr a few more high quality wins before a championship bout. I would think of thoes three fights (cro cop vs dos santos and rothwell vs velasquez) the winners of the last two should fight, big nog should be giving the next title shot imo. He was very unhealthy when he lost the belt, and proved that when healthy he is still a force, that guy does not need to have any more fights to prove his place. The others still have something to prove in the HW division in the ufc and should getr a few more high quality wins before a championship bout.

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120069 Jstew3785 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:46:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-120069 I know, but it's what SHOULD happen if he does win. Who else is left? Rothwell, Velasquez...? I know, but it’s what SHOULD happen if he does win. Who else is left? Rothwell, Velasquez…?

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120068 fanoftna33 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:40:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-120068 I dont think he would fight Dos Santos(if he wins) They train together I belive. I dont think he would fight Dos Santos(if he wins) They train together I belive.

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120066 Jstew3785 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:33:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-120066 Nog should fight the winner of Cro Cop/ Dos Santos and the winner facing the champ (Carwin or Lesnar). Nog should fight the winner of Cro Cop/ Dos Santos and the winner facing the champ (Carwin or Lesnar).

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120064 Sergio Hernandez Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:22:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-120064 A rematch is really unnecessary. While Big Nog didn't dominate per se, he left little doubt as to who won that fought. Couture fought a good fight but Nog took it to him. A rematch is really unnecessary.

While Big Nog didn’t dominate per se, he left little doubt as to who won that fought.

Couture fought a good fight but Nog took it to him.

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]]> By: Batman http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-119723 Batman Mon, 31 Aug 2009 02:17:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-119723 They need to have a rematch They need to have a rematch

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]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-119716 hindsightufuk Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:00:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-119716 agree with davey, the 5 rounders will make non title main events something special, nog vs randy shoulda been 5 rounds. would have been interesting to see who came out on top agree with davey, the 5 rounders will make non title main events something special, nog vs randy shoulda been 5 rounds. would have been interesting to see who came out on top

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]]> By: perfecto http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-119708 perfecto Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:59:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-119708 Randy still has it he did great against a bigger man with great ground skills and Nogueira looked strong. Brock and Nogueira will be a good one. Hell yeah. Reorganizing the round times and quantities is a good idea. I didnt like pride too much but that Ten minute first round was good. Separates the men from the boys. Randy still has it he did great against a bigger man with great ground skills
and Nogueira looked strong. Brock and Nogueira will be a good one.

Hell yeah. Reorganizing the round times and quantities is a good idea. I didnt like pride too much but that Ten minute first round was good. Separates the men from the boys.

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]]> By: mu_shin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-119668 mu_shin Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:05:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-119668 Great example of MMA at it's best. Two well matched opponents, and an excellent all around battle. Good standing striking action, and strong moves on the ground as well. While so many matches these days look like bad kickboxing fights, this was a true mixed martial arts event, and a powerful win for a rejuvinated Nogueira. Great example of MMA at it’s best. Two well matched opponents, and an excellent all around battle. Good standing striking action, and strong moves on the ground as well. While so many matches these days look like bad kickboxing fights, this was a true mixed martial arts event, and a powerful win for a rejuvinated Nogueira.

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]]> By: meatloaf http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-119660 meatloaf Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:01:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-119660 This honestly might have been the best fight I've seen in the UFC so far this year. Aside from Diego/Guida. Nogueira obviously wasn't himself against Mir and is still a quality fighter when healthy. Overall a much better event than I anticipated and way better than 101. This honestly might have been the best fight I’ve seen in the UFC so far this year. Aside from Diego/Guida.
Nogueira obviously wasn’t himself against Mir and is still a quality fighter when healthy.
Overall a much better event than I anticipated and way better than 101.

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]]> By: submit662266 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/nogueira-defeats-couture-in-legendary-battle-at-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-119631 submit662266 Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:44:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16819#comment-119631 I thought the whole card was great. The Aurelio fight was awesome, Leben being sumbitted was awesome, but of course, big Nog and Capt. America! Wow!! That was way better than I thought it'd be. I thought Randy was DONE at least 3 times and he clawed his way out of trouble. His ability to get back to his feet was impressive, esp with a guy like Minotauro on top of him. I had friends over who have never watched MMA and they asked "is it always this good?" Outstanding!! I thought the whole card was great. The Aurelio fight was awesome, Leben being sumbitted was awesome, but of course, big Nog and Capt. America! Wow!! That was way better than I thought it’d be. I thought Randy was DONE at least 3 times and he clawed his way out of trouble. His ability to get back to his feet was impressive, esp with a guy like Minotauro on top of him. I had friends over who have never watched MMA and they asked “is it always this good?” Outstanding!!

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