Comments on: Randy Couture will finish career in the Octagon, signs six-fight deal with UFC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 23:36:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-121052 edub Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:50:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-121052 I think a good start would be Jardine. Both are coming off losses and its a fight Randy can win. I wouldnt wanna put him in there with Jones though. That kid has the most potential for greatness Ive ever seen and now he's training down with Greg Jackson. I think whoever they put in front of him is just gonna have a world of problems. I gotta admit I would also like to see a super fight with him and Anderson at whatever weight they choose. I think Randy matches up very well with the Anderson and he would be the first fighter in a while that could truly dominate him physically.(I know some people said this about Forrest, but I think Randy is smart enough to find the clinch early against Anderson.) I dont think Evans, Machida, and Rampage would be close at this stage in Randy's career. But who knows he's proved us wrong before. I think a good start would be Jardine. Both are coming off losses and its a fight Randy can win. I wouldnt wanna put him in there with Jones though. That kid has the most potential for greatness Ive ever seen and now he’s training down with Greg Jackson. I think whoever they put in front of him is just gonna have a world of problems.

I gotta admit I would also like to see a super fight with him and Anderson at whatever weight they choose. I think Randy matches up very well with the Anderson and he would be the first fighter in a while that could truly dominate him physically.(I know some people said this about Forrest, but I think Randy is smart enough to find the clinch early against Anderson.)

I dont think Evans, Machida, and Rampage would be close at this stage in Randy’s career. But who knows he’s proved us wrong before.

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]]> By: Bullylover http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-121037 Bullylover Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:14:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-121037 any thoughts on these potential matchups at lhw? any thoughts on these potential matchups at lhw?

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]]> By: Bullylover http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-121034 Bullylover Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:14:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-121034 good fights for Coutoure at LHW are jon jones,ryan bader,keith jardine,thiago silva,rashad evans,rampage, and rich franklin. he can come back to lhw and face an upancomer like jones or bader who are great wrestlers but still wet between the ears. Then he can move up and face some body like jardine or thiago before facing the top competitors like evans, rampage or franklin.those all sound good to me. good fights for Coutoure at LHW are jon jones,ryan bader,keith jardine,thiago silva,rashad evans,rampage, and rich franklin. he can come back to lhw and face an upancomer like jones or bader who are great wrestlers but still wet between the ears. Then he can move up and face some body like jardine or thiago before facing the top competitors like evans, rampage or franklin.those all sound good to me.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120423 edub Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:45:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120423 Meatloaf: Good work my friend. I think most of us remember Josh's more because both botched tests were in arguably the two most important fights of his life(In our eyes of course, Im sure not to him). Meatloaf: Good work my friend.

I think most of us remember Josh’s more because both botched tests were in arguably the two most important fights of his life(In our eyes of course, Im sure not to him).

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]]> By: meatloaf http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120414 meatloaf Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:30:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120414 Tim Sylvia was suppose to fight Andrei Arlovski at UFC 47 but was denied a license because of a positive test and then Cabbage was brought in to face Arlovski as a late replacement. And of course after the Gan McGee fight. Tim Sylvia was suppose to fight Andrei Arlovski at UFC 47 but was denied a license because of a positive test and then Cabbage was brought in to face Arlovski as a late replacement.
And of course after the Gan McGee fight.

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]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120371 hindsightufuk Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:43:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120371 i know what you mean, cro cop and nog are the only remaining "greats" i can think of that Brock could actually face in the UFC. and yeah i dont think cro cop would stand a chance any more, nog a remote chance maybe i know what you mean, cro cop and nog are the only remaining “greats” i can think of that Brock could actually face in the UFC. and yeah i dont think cro cop would stand a chance any more, nog a remote chance maybe

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120366 edub Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:21:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120366 Great post Hindsight and good logic, but just hold Brocks wins in a higher regard than you guys do I guess. I dont really feel a win over Cro cop now would do anything for him considering once Mirko fights another decent wrestler I think itll be curtains for him IMO. Great post Hindsight and good logic, but just hold Brocks wins in a higher regard than you guys do I guess. I dont really feel a win over Cro cop now would do anything for him considering once Mirko fights another decent wrestler I think itll be curtains for him IMO.

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]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120362 hindsightufuk Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:02:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120362 i dont remember sylvia being tested positive twice either i dont remember sylvia being tested positive twice either

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]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120361 hindsightufuk Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:00:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120361 personally think i'd have Dan Severn, Don Frye, & Igor Vovchanchyn in before Brock. I personally dont think you can be 'great' in such a short career. Its not really a time for a heavy weight to be starting out and expect to become one of the greatest. most of the greats are past their prime. its not like a few years ago when all the greats faced off against each other. Brock doesnt really have any prime greats to fight in the UFC. if he beats nog, cro cop, then maybe fedor one day, he may make that list. but beating mir, an old randy & heath herring isnt going to make him great to me personally think i’d have Dan Severn, Don Frye, & Igor Vovchanchyn in before Brock. I personally dont think you can be ‘great’ in such a short career. Its not really a time for a heavy weight to be starting out and expect to become one of the greatest. most of the greats are past their prime. its not like a few years ago when all the greats faced off against each other. Brock doesnt really have any prime greats to fight in the UFC. if he beats nog, cro cop, then maybe fedor one day, he may make that list. but beating mir, an old randy & heath herring isnt going to make him great to me

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120360 edub Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:57:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120360 Haha great points you have your opinions and I have mine. I dont really see Ken, Igor, or Ricco belonging on this list. And as a matter of fact I would have Randleman, Rizzo, Rutten, and Werdum ahead of them. I didnt drop Barnett to 6th because of steroids hes just 6th on my list, and I have to point out the fact that I think he makes that spot because of a careeer long use of steroids. Sylvia is 4th because the guys was as dominant as anyone else in mma for a good little period of time. Also if you still there I know Sylvia got popped agains Gan Mcgee but I dont know when he got popped a second time. Which fight was it? Haha great points you have your opinions and I have mine. I dont really see Ken, Igor, or Ricco belonging on this list. And as a matter of fact I would have Randleman, Rizzo, Rutten, and Werdum ahead of them.

I didnt drop Barnett to 6th because of steroids hes just 6th on my list, and I have to point out the fact that I think he makes that spot because of a careeer long use of steroids. Sylvia is 4th because the guys was as dominant as anyone else in mma for a good little period of time. Also if you still there I know Sylvia got popped agains Gan Mcgee but I dont know when he got popped a second time. Which fight was it?

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]]> By: meatloaf http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120358 meatloaf Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:45:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120358 Listen I don't want to go off on a big back and forth argument. I'm headed out of town and won't have access to a computer for the next few days, but If I were to sit down and think for awhile about a top 10 list of Greatest heavyweights ever to this point Brock Lesnar wouldn't really enter my thoughts with 4 wins which when you think about it his Herring win is his best. Not wins over a very overrated Frank Mir or a geriatric Couture. Don't get me wrong the guy's a monster but I'd wait until he at least gets a few more wins. As far as who was a glaring snub on your list Igor Vovchanchyn sticks out like a sore thumb and no matter what you think of them now Ken Shamrock & Ricco Rodriguez would be on my list. Plus you dropped Josh Barnett to 6 because of steroids and you have Tim Sylvia 4th who's tested positive twice himself. Listen I don’t want to go off on a big back and forth argument.
I’m headed out of town and won’t have access to a computer for the next few days, but If I were to sit down and think for awhile about a top 10 list of Greatest heavyweights ever to this point Brock Lesnar wouldn’t really enter my thoughts with 4 wins which when you think about it his Herring win is his best. Not wins over a very overrated Frank Mir or a geriatric Couture.
Don’t get me wrong the guy’s a monster but I’d wait until he at least gets a few more wins.
As far as who was a glaring snub on your list Igor Vovchanchyn sticks out like a sore thumb and no matter what you think of them now Ken Shamrock & Ricco Rodriguez would be on my list.
Plus you dropped Josh Barnett to 6 because of steroids and you have Tim Sylvia 4th who’s tested positive twice himself.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120356 edub Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:38:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120356 Got ya Moose to each his own. Got ya Moose to each his own.

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]]> By: moosebaby02 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120352 moosebaby02 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:34:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120352 i guess you can sneak Lesnar in there for how fast he got to where he is right now. I would wait until Nov 21st to see if he belongs in there IMO. othere than that nothing wrong with that list i guess you can sneak Lesnar in there for how fast he got to where he is right now. I would wait until Nov 21st to see if he belongs in there IMO. othere than that nothing wrong with that list

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120347 edub Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:17:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120347 If you got some potential HWS that would leap ahead of him Im all ears.(Really not being sarcastic). The other fighters I would consider for this list have not accomplished the level of success that Brock has in the miniscule amount of time he has been fighting. If you got some potential HWS that would leap ahead of him Im all ears.(Really not being sarcastic). The other fighters I would consider for this list have not accomplished the level of success that Brock has in the miniscule amount of time he has been fighting.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120346 edub Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:07:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120346 Yep Yep

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]]> By: meatloaf http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120345 meatloaf Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:04:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120345 Let me get this straight maybe I'm misinterpreting this list of yours. But are you saying that if Brock Lesnar retired right now he'd be considered in your opinion the 9th greatest HW of all time? Let me get this straight maybe I’m misinterpreting this list of yours.

But are you saying that if Brock Lesnar retired right now he’d be considered in your opinion the 9th greatest HW of all time?

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120326 edub Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:22:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120326 MMA HWS GOAT: 1. Fedor 2. NOG 3. Couture 4. Sylvia 5. Cro Cop 6. Barnett(Steroids) 7. Arlovski 8. Coleman 9. Brock(as of right now) 10.Monson Im sure list will be changing in next two years with entrants from (possibly)Cain, Carwin, Dos Antos, Herman, Duffee, etc.. MMA HWS GOAT:

1. Fedor
2. NOG
3. Couture
4. Sylvia
5. Cro Cop
6. Barnett(Steroids)
7. Arlovski
8. Coleman
9. Brock(as of right now)
10.Monson

Im sure list will be changing in next two years with entrants from (possibly)Cain, Carwin, Dos Antos, Herman, Duffee, etc..

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]]> By: BigDave http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120247 BigDave Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:36:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120247 I love Randy Couture but I really dont want to see him in there against Carwin or velasques or Brock again. he just isn't big enough or athletic enough at this stage of his career to compete with these guys even though his heart will will never give up in a fight with any of them. If he is gonna stay and fight he NEEDS to go down to LHW at least there although he still won't have the speed or athletic ability as the top guys there now he will at least be competitive. I still fell that even dropping down he may turn into a gatekeeper of sorts. But he has surprised me in the past so I will just keep on backing him and hope he does well every time he steps into that Octagon. I love Randy Couture but I really dont want to see him in there against Carwin or velasques or Brock again. he just isn’t big enough or athletic enough at this stage of his career to compete with these guys even though his heart will will never give up in a fight with any of them. If he is gonna stay and fight he NEEDS to go down to LHW at least there although he still won’t have the speed or athletic ability as the top guys there now he will at least be competitive. I still fell that even dropping down he may turn into a gatekeeper of sorts. But he has surprised me in the past so I will just keep on backing him and hope he does well every time he steps into that Octagon.

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120063 Sergio Hernandez Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:19:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120063 Couture's "easiest" fight in the UFC was against Van Arsdale. His relatively poor record is a testament that Couture ALWAYS fought the best. And when you fight the best, you sometimes lose. Couture’s “easiest” fight in the UFC was against Van Arsdale.

His relatively poor record is a testament that Couture ALWAYS fought the best. And when you fight the best, you sometimes lose.

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/30/randy-couture-will-finish-career-in-the-octagon-signs-six-fight-deal-with-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-120059 fanoftna33 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:58:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16827#comment-120059 MMa logic- Much like Lessner, Randys first title shot came in his fourth fight, His first two were in one night , then his third was over Belfort. MMa logic- Much like Lessner, Randys first title shot came in his fourth fight, His first two were in one night , then his third was over Belfort.

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