Comments on: The Aftermath: UFC 102 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 23:36:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-122060 edub Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:09:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-122060 Its not a head but if your taking someone down and you clash heads. Besides fighters have fought and won with broken noses before. And to call Carwins win luck is just stupid. He got knocked down weathered the storm, escaped mount from a former grappling stalwort, got up slipped a couple punches and delivered the finishing blow. No luck involved. Its not a head but if your taking someone down and you clash heads. Besides fighters have fought and won with broken noses before.

And to call Carwins win luck is just stupid. He got knocked down weathered the storm, escaped mount from a former grappling stalwort, got up slipped a couple punches and delivered the finishing blow. No luck involved.

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]]> By: xtreme_machine http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-122045 xtreme_machine Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:34:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-122045 MMA-LOGIC great point man, i agree MMA-LOGIC

great point man, i agree

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]]> By: MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-121820 MMA-LOGIC Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:46:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-121820 "Call me crazy" Your crazy! and Carwin has proved as much as Houston Alexander had when he beat Jardine...nothing. It was his first AND ONLY fight against a top 20 fighter and it was just as much Gonzaga's fault as Carwins ...luck. "perhaps more should be made of it" I think more should be made of the fact that Couture has had 8 title shots (THATS 8!)and earned them with a total of 4 wins in non title fights (Machida won 6 in a row to get his first!), has a record of only 12-7 at HW and 4-3 at LHW, has only beaten 11 people in the octagon (including Halme, Graham and Arsdale) and been beaten by 6 (including everyone who is really anyone except Ortiz). He is a good fighter but has been made into an undeserving champ on more than 1 occasion through popularity. "take the executive action and stop the fight" Yeah the same "executive action" should have been taken after couture smashed Gonzaga's nose (and title chances) with a head butt early in their encounter too. “Call me crazy” Your crazy! and Carwin has proved as much as Houston Alexander had when he beat Jardine…nothing. It was his first AND ONLY fight against a top 20 fighter and it was just as much Gonzaga’s fault as Carwins …luck.

“perhaps more should be made of it” I think more should be made of the fact that Couture has had 8 title shots (THATS 8!)and earned them with a total of 4 wins in non title fights (Machida won 6 in a row to get his first!), has a record of only 12-7 at HW and 4-3 at LHW, has only beaten 11 people in the octagon (including Halme, Graham and Arsdale) and been beaten by 6 (including everyone who is really anyone except Ortiz). He is a good fighter but has been made into an undeserving champ on more than 1 occasion through popularity.

“take the executive action and stop the fight” Yeah the same “executive action” should have been taken after couture smashed Gonzaga’s nose (and title chances) with a head butt early in their encounter too.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-121623 edub Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:27:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-121623 Hahahahah I thought about what u meant after I posted and immediately smacked myself in the head. Hahahahah I thought about what u meant after I posted and immediately smacked myself in the head.

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]]> By: submit662266 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-121616 submit662266 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:46:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-121616 edub, scroll up on this page, and on the right side, 5 OZ of Pain have listed the official p4p top ten readers. Edub happens to be the best mma fan in the world right now!!! edub, scroll up on this page, and on the right side, 5 OZ of Pain have listed the official p4p top ten readers. Edub happens to be the best mma fan in the world right now!!!

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]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-121603 Angry Mike Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:21:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-121603 ^ ^ Cripes. I think I feel old. ^
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Cripes. I think I feel old.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-121593 edub Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:54:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-121593 Where's the list submit. Where’s the list submit.

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]]> By: submit662266 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-121456 submit662266 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:23:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-121456 Wow, I made the p4p rankings!! I always dreamed of big moments like this when I was a kid and never thought I'd be mentioned in the same conversation as AngryMike or Mushin. YYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, I made the p4p rankings!! I always dreamed of big moments like this when I was a kid and never thought I’d be mentioned in the same conversation as AngryMike or Mushin. YYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

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]]> By: submit662266 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-121453 submit662266 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:14:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-121453 Nobody will like hearing this, but I think Randy AND Nog looked old. If either of them had fought Cain, Carwin, or Brock it would've ended quickly and badly. I love both guys (both have legendary stories and careers), but I thought they looked slow. However, I will never forget Randy escaping from those submission attempts. I had never seen him in that situation, I thought he was beyond hope of escaping, and he pulled the rabbit out of the hat. It was awesome. Nate's stock went up in my book. I agree with posts above that something should be done about the additional strikes that are often thrown in MMA. Its tough b/c there is a fine line: many people take a heavy shot and recover. Not sure about a fair solution. Duffee needs to fight tougher competition before getting shots at top guys. However, the UFC doesn't work that way. If it is deemed that the fans want to see him against top level fighters, the UFC will make it happen. I had low expectations of this card, but 102 delivered the goods. Nobody will like hearing this, but I think Randy AND Nog looked old. If either of them had fought Cain, Carwin, or Brock it would’ve ended quickly and badly. I love both guys (both have legendary stories and careers), but I thought they looked slow. However, I will never forget Randy escaping from those submission attempts. I had never seen him in that situation, I thought he was beyond hope of escaping, and he pulled the rabbit out of the hat. It was awesome.

Nate’s stock went up in my book. I agree with posts above that something should be done about the additional strikes that are often thrown in MMA. Its tough b/c there is a fine line: many people take a heavy shot and recover. Not sure about a fair solution.

Duffee needs to fight tougher competition before getting shots at top guys. However, the UFC doesn’t work that way. If it is deemed that the fans want to see him against top level fighters, the UFC will make it happen.

I had low expectations of this card, but 102 delivered the goods.

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]]> By: Batman http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-121314 Batman Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:08:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-121314 I think this was a pretty good card but the UFC needs to step up the main events a little bit. They need at least two great matchups per card. Kieth Jardine isn't a main event guy or co-main event material. Please UFC find four guys with star power on every card, is that so hard? I think this was a pretty good card but the UFC needs to step up the main events a little bit. They need at least two great matchups per card. Kieth Jardine isn’t a main event guy or co-main event material. Please UFC find four guys with star power on every card, is that so hard?

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]]> By: FightTrends.com http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-121263 FightTrends.com Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:13:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-121263 I would really like to see Duffee soem more. Its hard to judge a guy in 7 seconds. I would really like to see Duffee soem more. Its hard to judge a guy in 7 seconds.

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]]> By: Bullylover http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-121051 Bullylover Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:48:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-121051 cro cop vs coutoure would be an awsome fight. cro cop vs coutoure would be an awsome fight.

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]]> By: Scott H. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120895 Scott H. Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:03:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-120895 If Cro Cop does win, wouldn't Couture - Cro Cop make a great fight... I'm sceptical though... Cro Cop hasn't look that good the past few years, I think he's going to have all he can handle with Dos Santos. We only have to wait a few weeks to find out... God, I love the UFC. Top fighters, fighting each other, every month. If Cro Cop does win, wouldn’t Couture – Cro Cop make a great fight…

I’m sceptical though… Cro Cop hasn’t look that good the past few years, I think he’s going to have all he can handle with Dos Santos. We only have to wait a few weeks to find out… God, I love the UFC. Top fighters, fighting each other, every month.

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120880 Jstew3785 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:11:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-120880 Duffee vs Gonzaga would be good. Or.... Duffee vs Herring. I know Herring doesn't want to fight up and comers, but somebody has to. Either guy would tell us exactly where Duffee is and if he is legit or not. Duffee vs Gonzaga would be good. Or…. Duffee vs Herring. I know Herring doesn’t want to fight up and comers, but somebody has to. Either guy would tell us exactly where Duffee is and if he is legit or not.

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120875 fanoftna33 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:29:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-120875 From what ive read the next fight for Kongo will be Mir. But a showdown with Duffy would be cool. I dont see Dos Santos getting by Cro Cop in that fight,but Dos Santos would also make a good match. From what ive read the next fight for Kongo will be Mir. But a showdown with Duffy would be cool. I dont see Dos Santos getting by Cro Cop in that fight,but Dos Santos would also make a good match.

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]]> By: Scott H. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120874 Scott H. Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:13:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-120874 Fan: I just don't see that fight happening. Nog has earned a title shot, or at the very least a showdown with one of the up-and -comers for a title shot. Gonzaga (espeacally with the $ he is making) likely just earned his way back on to the televised portion of a Card. Who wouldn't want to see him against Duffee as the opening fight on a PPV? Kongo would be another PPV worthy fight for him, or maybe dos Santos if he (inexplicably) loses to Cro Cop. I don't really have any interest in Gonzaga - Cro Cop II. Fan:

I just don’t see that fight happening. Nog has earned a title shot, or at the very least a showdown with one of the up-and -comers for a title shot.

Gonzaga (espeacally with the $ he is making) likely just earned his way back on to the televised portion of a Card. Who wouldn’t want to see him against Duffee as the opening fight on a PPV? Kongo would be another PPV worthy fight for him, or maybe dos Santos if he (inexplicably) loses to Cro Cop. I don’t really have any interest in Gonzaga – Cro Cop II.

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120873 fanoftna33 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:00:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-120873 The one fight I would like to see out of this ufc would be Nog vs Gonzaga, If they dont give Nog a title shot, that would be a good chane to see Gonzaga choke in a big fight,again. The one fight I would like to see out of this ufc would be Nog vs Gonzaga, If they dont give Nog a title shot, that would be a good chane to see Gonzaga choke in a big fight,again.

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]]> By: Guy Gaduois http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120786 Guy Gaduois Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:12:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-120786 Great article. Great article.

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]]> By: moosebaby02 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120779 moosebaby02 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:38:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-120779 I dont care Gonzaga kicked him in the nads on purpose. Duffee could be great. Someone said it give him Gonzaga. Ed Herman is the man. Nate could have kept on going but sometimes you just know you when you have the fight in the bag and sometimes there is a little extra bad blood between fighters that cant be helped ie: Hendo cracking Bisbing for having no respect. Not saying it was right just saying. Captian America is the man and i hope he does well in LHW I dont care Gonzaga kicked him in the nads on purpose. Duffee could be great. Someone said it give him Gonzaga. Ed Herman is the man. Nate could have kept on going but sometimes you just know you when you have the fight in the bag and sometimes there is a little extra bad blood between fighters that cant be helped ie: Hendo cracking Bisbing for having no respect. Not saying it was right just saying. Captian America is the man and i hope he does well in LHW

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]]> By: danw84 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/08/31/the-aftermath-ufc-102/comment-page-1/#comment-120723 danw84 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:59:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16834#comment-120723 "And did Tuchscherer really vomit?" I was there, and while they did bring out the bucket and he looked pretty interested in it, I don't think I saw him ACTUALLY throw up. Regardless, that was the most brutal low blow I can think of having seen. It was only a few seconds into the fight, it's not like he took all 5 minutes because he was trying to rest. He was hurt. “And did Tuchscherer really vomit?”

I was there, and while they did bring out the bucket and he looked pretty interested in it, I don’t think I saw him ACTUALLY throw up.

Regardless, that was the most brutal low blow I can think of having seen. It was only a few seconds into the fight, it’s not like he took all 5 minutes because he was trying to rest. He was hurt.

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