Comments on: Elbow surgery puts Anderson Silva on the shelf until 2010 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 23:36:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: xtreme_machine http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-123146 xtreme_machine Sat, 05 Sep 2009 21:04:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-123146 "After I saw it I went and tried it with my brother like 87 times, and that move is harrrrrrd." Hey Makington, i did the same thing and i fell on my *ss every time. “After I saw it I went and tried it with my brother like 87 times, and that move is harrrrrrd.”

Hey Makington, i did the same thing and i fell on my *ss every time.

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]]> By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-123128 Makington Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:29:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-123128 The flying heel hook blew my mind, but the point was that since it didn't happen in the UFC, to most fans it didn't happen. Most people don't know how he got just embarrassed by Tekasi (sp?) But I'm with Jstew on this one, he really has fought pure word class competition. I respect his record win streak much more than Jon Fitch's and Royce Gracie's, since those guys mostly fought nobodies. Silva fought every best middleweight out there, and you say he's ducking competition? I thought Patrick Cote deserved his title shot, although I was a little confused why Thales got one. But other than those 2, he has fought the best of the best in the world. Fact is, he's alredy beaten both Hendeson and Marquardt so I don't see how he could be ducking them, and you can't control injuries. waiting 6 months for him to defend his title really isn't that out of the ordinary so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt right now. On a less related note, Chonan's heel hook was a thing of mastery. After I saw it I went and tried it with my brother like 87 times, and that move is harrrrrrd. The flying heel hook blew my mind, but the point was that since it didn’t happen in the UFC, to most fans it didn’t happen. Most people don’t know how he got just embarrassed by Tekasi (sp?) But I’m with Jstew on this one, he really has fought pure word class competition. I respect his record win streak much more than Jon Fitch’s and Royce Gracie’s, since those guys mostly fought nobodies. Silva fought every best middleweight out there, and you say he’s ducking competition? I thought Patrick Cote deserved his title shot, although I was a little confused why Thales got one. But other than those 2, he has fought the best of the best in the world. Fact is, he’s alredy beaten both Hendeson and Marquardt so I don’t see how he could be ducking them, and you can’t control injuries. waiting 6 months for him to defend his title really isn’t that out of the ordinary so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt right now.

On a less related note, Chonan’s heel hook was a thing of mastery. After I saw it I went and tried it with my brother like 87 times, and that move is harrrrrrd.

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-123089 Jstew3785 Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:02:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-123089 BigDave- I know I said something before in another forum, but I'll say it again. Silva isn't ducking anybody. He doesn't get to pick his fights! How hard is that to understand? He was told to defend against Cote and Leites, it wasn't his choice! Did GSP ask for Thiago Alves? Did Evans ask for Machida? No! The fact that he is so dominant and makes everyone look bad is a testament to him, not a knock on his opposition. Forrest Griffin is a former LHW champ, a top 10 LHW, how is that not a worthy opponent? I don't recall anyone calling for an interim LW title considering B.J didn't defend it for 15 months. If Silva wants to move up to 205 and make a run at that title, then yes he should decide now and not keep the title in limbo. But if he wants to stay at MW, then someone needs to take the belt from him. An elbow injury from the best P4P best fighter in the world is not reason enough to talk about this nonsense of an interim belt. And yes, the flying heel hook Chonan put on Silva will forever go down as one of the greatest moves in MMA history. BigDave- I know I said something before in another forum, but I’ll say it again. Silva isn’t ducking anybody. He doesn’t get to pick his fights! How hard is that to understand? He was told to defend against Cote and Leites, it wasn’t his choice! Did GSP ask for Thiago Alves? Did Evans ask for Machida? No! The fact that he is so dominant and makes everyone look bad is a testament to him, not a knock on his opposition. Forrest Griffin is a former LHW champ, a top 10 LHW, how is that not a worthy opponent? I don’t recall anyone calling for an interim LW title considering B.J didn’t defend it for 15 months. If Silva wants to move up to 205 and make a run at that title, then yes he should decide now and not keep the title in limbo. But if he wants to stay at MW, then someone needs to take the belt from him. An elbow injury from the best P4P best fighter in the world is not reason enough to talk about this nonsense of an interim belt.
And yes, the flying heel hook Chonan put on Silva will forever go down as one of the greatest moves in MMA history.

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]]> By: xtreme_machine http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-123000 xtreme_machine Sat, 05 Sep 2009 05:55:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-123000 That brilliant move immortalized Chonan That was a thing of beauty that will forever be imprinted in our MMA brains. I wonder if we will ever see that move again. Hail the flying hell hook. and yes i meant undefeated in the UFC That brilliant move immortalized Chonan

That was a thing of beauty that will forever be imprinted in our MMA brains.

I wonder if we will ever see that move again. Hail the flying hell hook.

and yes i meant undefeated in the UFC

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]]> By: FightTrends.com http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122996 FightTrends.com Sat, 05 Sep 2009 05:46:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122996 The flying heel hook loss to Chonan was amazing. That forever made Chonan a badass no matter what happens to him in the future. If that had happened in the UFC it would be on highlight reels forever. The flying heel hook loss to Chonan was amazing. That forever made Chonan a badass no matter what happens to him in the future. If that had happened in the UFC it would be on highlight reels forever.

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]]> By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122985 Makington Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:57:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122985 I think he meant undefeated in the UFC, which is what most American fans will remember more. (even the bizarre flying heel hook loss to Chonan) I think he meant undefeated in the UFC, which is what most American fans will remember more. (even the bizarre flying heel hook loss to Chonan)

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]]> By: BigDave http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122952 BigDave Sat, 05 Sep 2009 03:57:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122952 xtreme_machine says: September 4, 2009 at 9:38 pm he wants to retire undefeated and with the Middleweight belt Um last time i checked Silva had lost four fights so there goes the undefeated thing. xtreme_machine says:
September 4, 2009 at 9:38 pm

he wants to retire undefeated and with the Middleweight belt

Um last time i checked Silva had lost four fights so there goes the undefeated thing.

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]]> By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122929 Makington Sat, 05 Sep 2009 03:39:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122929 True that Henderson is a better wrestler who could potentially put Nate down at will, but Dan is one of the worst fighters in MMA for neglecting his strengths and fighting a worse fight for him. I'm not hating on him, I actually like him quite a lot. He always makes an exciting fight and he's always been a real gentleman, but he almost never resorts to his wrestling, which is more than world class. It's the same problem with Jorge Gurgel, the BJJ black belt who hates the ground. I think if Henderson opts to stand with Nate, he'll get worked over all 3 rounds (potentially 5). However, if he remembers he is a great wrestler, I think he could TKO Nate on the ground and save himself a lot of bruises in the morning. True that Henderson is a better wrestler who could potentially put Nate down at will, but Dan is one of the worst fighters in MMA for neglecting his strengths and fighting a worse fight for him. I’m not hating on him, I actually like him quite a lot. He always makes an exciting fight and he’s always been a real gentleman, but he almost never resorts to his wrestling, which is more than world class. It’s the same problem with Jorge Gurgel, the BJJ black belt who hates the ground.

I think if Henderson opts to stand with Nate, he’ll get worked over all 3 rounds (potentially 5). However, if he remembers he is a great wrestler, I think he could TKO Nate on the ground and save himself a lot of bruises in the morning.

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]]> By: Batman http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122895 Batman Sat, 05 Sep 2009 03:09:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122895 Wow Hendo vs Nate that would be awesome. I think thats more entertaining then their rematches with Silva. Plus I think who ever wins the fight would come out a better fighter. Wow Hendo vs Nate that would be awesome. I think thats more entertaining then their rematches with Silva. Plus I think who ever wins the fight would come out a better fighter.

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]]> By: xtreme_machine http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122868 xtreme_machine Sat, 05 Sep 2009 02:38:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122868 he wants to retire undefeated and with the Middleweight belt he wants to retire undefeated and with the Middleweight belt

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]]> By: JBAR http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122818 JBAR Sat, 05 Sep 2009 01:00:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122818 I would say if he is projected to be out more than 6 months create the interim belt and when Silva is back take the top 4 guys and unify the belts similar to what happened with Brock, Randy, Nog and Mir in the HW division. Hendo and Nate can fight for the interim belt and defend it at least once in the 6 months Silva is out. I would say if he is projected to be out more than 6 months create the interim belt and when Silva is back take the top 4 guys and unify the belts similar to what happened with Brock, Randy, Nog and Mir in the HW division. Hendo and Nate can fight for the interim belt and defend it at least once in the 6 months Silva is out.

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]]> By: BigDave http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122801 BigDave Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:06:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122801 Ya its only 4 months but with andersons recent ducking of anything resembling a good fight it could be a year before we see him defend the title to a worthy opponent. When he comes back he will probably want to fight tito at 205 or some other fight at 205 just so he doesnt have to defend his title. I used to like Silva but I'm loseing respect for him more and more with each passing day. Ya its only 4 months but with andersons recent ducking of anything resembling a good fight it could be a year before we see him defend the title to a worthy opponent. When he comes back he will probably want to fight tito at 205 or some other fight at 205 just so he doesnt have to defend his title. I used to like Silva but I’m loseing respect for him more and more with each passing day.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122794 edub Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:28:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122794 Agreed with Jstew. Agreed with Jstew.

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122793 Jstew3785 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:23:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122793 They say 2010 like it's a long time. It's only 4 months away. Why create an interim belt? Belts have gone longer than that without being defended. As dominant as Silva has been there is no reason to create an interim belt. They say 2010 like it’s a long time. It’s only 4 months away. Why create an interim belt? Belts have gone longer than that without being defended. As dominant as Silva has been there is no reason to create an interim belt.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122792 edub Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:15:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122792 I say Dan wins via unanimous dec. Nate has never fought as good as a wrestler as Dan. Dan would take the dec if not tko him. I say Dan wins via unanimous dec. Nate has never fought as good as a wrestler as Dan. Dan would take the dec if not tko him.

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122786 fanoftna33 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:34:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122786 If it does happen it will be a war. I am interested to see how(if dan can get him down) Nate fights off his back. I know he is a black belt in bjj but I havent seen him fight off his back yet. If it does happen it will be a war. I am interested to see how(if dan can get him down) Nate fights off his back. I know he is a black belt in bjj but I havent seen him fight off his back yet.

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]]> By: sides666 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122784 sides666 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:30:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122784 hendo vs nate needs to happen tough one to predict though hendo vs nate needs to happen tough one to predict though

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]]> By: xtreme_machine http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122774 xtreme_machine Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:55:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122774 Nate Marquardt Vs Dan Henderson Winner gets Intermtitle or #1 contender Marquardt via 2nd Round TKO Nate Marquardt Vs Dan Henderson

Winner gets Intermtitle or #1 contender

Marquardt via 2nd Round TKO

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122760 fanoftna33 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:44:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122760 This happened when Serra was forced out of his first title fight against St.Pierre and the ufc immediatly made a interim title fight between gsp and Hughes. I hope they follow suite here and make Nate vs Henderson for the interim MW belt. This happened when Serra was forced out of his first title fight against St.Pierre and the ufc immediatly made a interim title fight between gsp and Hughes. I hope they follow suite here and make Nate vs Henderson for the interim MW belt.

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]]> By: t-shreds http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/04/elbow-surgery-puts-anderson-silva-on-the-shelf-until-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-122758 t-shreds Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:41:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=16905#comment-122758 agreed... altho a hendo - nate fight would settle who is worthy agreed… altho a hendo – nate fight would settle who is worthy

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