Comments on: 5 Oz. Exclusive with Cung Le: ‘I have to do the right thing for myself, and my family too’ http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: neijia http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127720 neijia Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:34:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127720 Cung Le is pretty old now (37) for mma Cung Le is pretty old now (37) for mma

]]> By: H3ro http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127715 H3ro Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:08:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127715 Pandorum was not screened for critics in advance. If the movie were suppose to be at least decent, it would have been shown in advance. I think Cung Le would have made more money fighting than making movies. If you compare one fight to one movie, the movie would probably pay less because he is not a well known actor and the movie probably won't do too well. Just because you make one or two films, it doesn't mean you can be a full time actor. Acting gigs are hard to come by and if you don't have a big name, opportunities are slim. Pandorum was not screened for critics in advance. If the movie were suppose to be at least decent, it would have been shown in advance.

I think Cung Le would have made more money fighting than making movies. If you compare one fight to one movie, the movie would probably pay less because he is not a well known actor and the movie probably won’t do too well. Just because you make one or two films, it doesn’t mean you can be a full time actor. Acting gigs are hard to come by and if you don’t have a big name, opportunities are slim.

]]> By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127534 Makington Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:24:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127534 I do find that interesting about sport retirement, but no matter which way you look at it, waiting almost 2 years to decide this isn't integrity. I honestly have nothing against acting. If you payed me a crap load, I will do whatever you want me to do, even if it's telling everyone how much I pity the fool. However, I would not sign the contract for a movie when fighting is my number one priority. Leaving all of his fans behind and leaving Strikeforce in limbo is not a respectful thing to do, by any stretch. So almost 2 years later he finally makes the decision that everyone knew the whole time, he's giving up on fighting, atleast for now. After showing such little spine to his priorities, it will take a lot more than this article for me to believe he is a man of integrity. I do find that interesting about sport retirement, but no matter which way you look at it, waiting almost 2 years to decide this isn’t integrity. I honestly have nothing against acting. If you payed me a crap load, I will do whatever you want me to do, even if it’s telling everyone how much I pity the fool. However, I would not sign the contract for a movie when fighting is my number one priority. Leaving all of his fans behind and leaving Strikeforce in limbo is not a respectful thing to do, by any stretch. So almost 2 years later he finally makes the decision that everyone knew the whole time, he’s giving up on fighting, atleast for now. After showing such little spine to his priorities, it will take a lot more than this article for me to believe he is a man of integrity.

]]> By: twyg http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127498 twyg Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:55:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127498 I have raged on this site before about the lack of a title defense and his desire to do movies rather then fight. I also understand the need to get a paycheck when it is there. I don't think he has a ground game and saying he would be a match for A.Silva is reaching. He won the title but never defended it; to me that is worse then losing it in your first defense. He may have won a bunch of medals and championships, but I will never consider him a true MMA champion. I don't think he comes back, because if he gets a few more movies by the time those are done and promotion for them is through he will be to old. Not everyone is Randy and can fight into late 30s early 40s. I have raged on this site before about the lack of a title defense and his desire to do movies rather then fight. I also understand the need to get a paycheck when it is there. I don’t think he has a ground game and saying he would be a match for A.Silva is reaching. He won the title but never defended it; to me that is worse then losing it in your first defense. He may have won a bunch of medals and championships, but I will never consider him a true MMA champion. I don’t think he comes back, because if he gets a few more movies by the time those are done and promotion for them is through he will be to old. Not everyone is Randy and can fight into late 30s early 40s.

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127486 fanoftna33 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:16:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127486 Nothing can touch Van Damm in Cyborg. Nothing can touch Van Damm in Cyborg.

]]> By: H3ro http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127484 H3ro Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:11:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127484 @neijia I think Machida is a great fighter. He has beaten the everybody put in front of him with ease. We have seen that Machida also has a great ground game. We haven't seen any of this with Cung Le. Can he fight on the ground? Can he compete against the top light heavyweights? I would bet my house that Nick Diaz would beat Cung Le. If these fighters want to do movies, than they shouldn't sign a contract. I don't like it when a movie interferes with a fighters obligation to fight. Let me know how is new movie is. It can't be any better than Jean Claude movies. @neijia I think Machida is a great fighter. He has beaten the everybody put in front of him with ease. We have seen that Machida also has a great ground game. We haven’t seen any of this with Cung Le. Can he fight on the ground? Can he compete against the top light heavyweights? I would bet my house that Nick Diaz would beat Cung Le.

If these fighters want to do movies, than they shouldn’t sign a contract. I don’t like it when a movie interferes with a fighters obligation to fight. Let me know how is new movie is. It can’t be any better than Jean Claude movies.

]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127466 edub Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:15:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127466 "Probably would’ve been the only good matchup for Anderson Silva at 185." Neijia Ill agree with a few of your points but your really reaching in this one. To upend an aging Frank Shamrock is one thing, but to go up against the Spider is a complete different animal. “Probably would’ve been the only good matchup for Anderson Silva at 185.”

Neijia Ill agree with a few of your points but your really reaching in this one. To upend an aging Frank Shamrock is one thing, but to go up against the Spider is a complete different animal.

]]> By: neijia http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127461 neijia Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:29:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127461 incidentally, from a recent SI article: - After two years of retirement, 78% of former NFL players have gone bankrupt - Within five years of retirement, 60% of former NBA players are broke ( see http://bit.ly/e0mvI ) not good news for mma fighters with no good second career prospects incidentally, from a recent SI article:

- After two years of retirement, 78% of former NFL players have gone bankrupt
- Within five years of retirement, 60% of former NBA players are broke
( see http://bit.ly/e0mvI )

not good news for mma fighters with no good second career prospects

]]> By: neijia http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127459 neijia Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:25:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127459 huh? he just gave the flat out honest answer, similar to CroCop in that earlier article, but he actually went out on top rather than after a few years of being conflicted about it. how do you need more honesty to see "integrity"? let's face it. pro athletes cannot be at the top or even in the sport forever. very, very few can transition to something like movies. there is Ahnold (if you consider bodybuilding a sport), The Rock (if you consider pro wrestling a sport), and a few others, but not many... if Cung Le or Rampage can do it, and want to, they should. fighters' obligations are not to fight fans. but then, he also made the point that movies have a much larger fan base and that could actually help mma. movies can also create transitions to other opportunities. it would be incredibly stupid for these guys to not give it a go. huh? he just gave the flat out honest answer, similar to CroCop in that earlier article, but he actually went out on top rather than after a few years of being conflicted about it. how do you need more honesty to see “integrity”?

let’s face it. pro athletes cannot be at the top or even in the sport forever. very, very few can transition to something like movies. there is Ahnold (if you consider bodybuilding a sport), The Rock (if you consider pro wrestling a sport), and a few others, but not many… if Cung Le or Rampage can do it, and want to, they should. fighters’ obligations are not to fight fans. but then, he also made the point that movies have a much larger fan base and that could actually help mma. movies can also create transitions to other opportunities. it would be incredibly stupid for these guys to not give it a go.

]]> By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127457 Makington Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:18:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127457 I don't hate him as much as Hero apparently does, but I more or less agree. He may be sincere, but it's going to take a whole lot more than that for me to ever respect him again. He mat have won many people back with that but I will still need convincing of his integrity. I don’t hate him as much as Hero apparently does, but I more or less agree. He may be sincere, but it’s going to take a whole lot more than that for me to ever respect him again. He mat have won many people back with that but I will still need convincing of his integrity.

]]> By: neijia http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127456 neijia Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:17:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127456 @H3ro are you one of those people who always used to say how Fedor was no good, and how Machida was no good? If you've done any training at all in any standup styles, it's clear as day how good Cung Le was. Probably would've been the only good matchup for Anderson Silva at 185. If he wants to and can do movies, he definitely should. A lot more money, a lot more opportunities in the overall entertainment business, of which pro sports is a small part, and mma is a tiny part. Right now the producers take all of the money in mma and the talent gets almost nothing compared to other individual sports such as boxing, tennis, and golf. Eventually the underlying economics will surface. In the meantime, I hope we get to see Cung fight again. @H3ro are you one of those people who always used to say how Fedor was no good, and how Machida was no good? If you’ve done any training at all in any standup styles, it’s clear as day how good Cung Le was. Probably would’ve been the only good matchup for Anderson Silva at 185.

If he wants to and can do movies, he definitely should. A lot more money, a lot more opportunities in the overall entertainment business, of which pro sports is a small part, and mma is a tiny part. Right now the producers take all of the money in mma and the talent gets almost nothing compared to other individual sports such as boxing, tennis, and golf. Eventually the underlying economics will surface.

In the meantime, I hope we get to see Cung fight again.

]]> By: H3ro http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127454 H3ro Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:11:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127454 Cung Le and other fighters who try to do movies and other activities that interfere with fighting should be fined or dropped from the organization. These fighters should have to honor their contracts. If fighters can make movies during their contracts, why can't they fight in different fight promotions? How can people think Cung was a great champion? This perplexes me. Cung Le has never beaten a top 20 fighter and he won the belt from an aging Shamrock. Mr. Le never defended his belt, held it as long as he can, and he was ducking Nick Diaz at that time. You have to at least defend your StrikeForce belt, at least once if you're a true champion. I think Nick Diaz would have beaten Cung Le and I think Cung thought the same thing since losing would hurt his image and his stock would have dropped. This article is praising Cung Le for givng up his belt, when it should be the exact opposite. It states in the beginning that" Cung Le has an impressive resume in Hollywood." That's like saying my girlfriend is Megan Fox. I don't think Tekken or any of his other movies are going to be Oscar winners or even break the $100 million mark. Cung Le was discovered because of StrikeForce and he should at least finish up his contract with StrikeForce. Cung Le is the next Steven Seagal and Jean Claude Van Dam. If Cung Le were as good as people thought, than he would have made much more money in MMA, with fights and sponsors. Cung Le and other fighters who try to do movies and other activities that interfere with fighting should be fined or dropped from the organization. These fighters should have to honor their contracts. If fighters can make movies during their contracts, why can’t they fight in different fight promotions?

How can people think Cung was a great champion? This perplexes me. Cung Le has never beaten a top 20 fighter and he won the belt from an aging Shamrock. Mr. Le never defended his belt, held it as long as he can, and he was ducking Nick Diaz at that time. You have to at least defend your StrikeForce belt, at least once if you’re a true champion. I think Nick Diaz would have beaten Cung Le and I think Cung thought the same thing since losing would hurt his image and his stock would have dropped.

This article is praising Cung Le for givng up his belt, when it should be the exact opposite. It states in the beginning that” Cung Le has an impressive resume in Hollywood.” That’s like saying my girlfriend is Megan Fox. I don’t think Tekken or any of his other movies are going to be Oscar winners or even break the $100 million mark. Cung Le was discovered because of StrikeForce and he should at least finish up his contract with StrikeForce. Cung Le is the next Steven Seagal and Jean Claude Van Dam. If Cung Le were as good as people thought, than he would have made much more money in MMA, with fights and sponsors.

]]> By: moosebaby02 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127424 moosebaby02 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:06:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127424 either way tufuk he should be back in the ring. love watching him fight. either way tufuk he should be back in the ring. love watching him fight.

]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127423 hindsightufuk Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:03:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127423 arent cungs wins classed as tko's? i dont recall anyone being knocked clean out? arent cungs wins classed as tko’s? i dont recall anyone being knocked clean out?

]]> By: mu_shin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127421 mu_shin Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:46:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127421 Cung Le is a great fighter, and was a great champion. Used to watch him in sanshou matches, where he was untouchable, and his victory over Frank Shamrock was a strong statement in MMA. I wish him success in whatever he pursues, and if we are lucky enough to see him fight again, I'm sure it will be memorable. Cung Le is a great fighter, and was a great champion. Used to watch him in sanshou matches, where he was untouchable, and his victory over Frank Shamrock was a strong statement in MMA. I wish him success in whatever he pursues, and if we are lucky enough to see him fight again, I’m sure it will be memorable.

]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127393 fanoftna33 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:01:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127393 If he only wants to fight once or twice a year in big fights that would be cool. Strikeforce has enough guys at 185 that would make some exciting match ups. Miller, Lawler for sure, Shields, all fun fights for the fans, plus strikeforce is still building up its roster. If he only wants to fight once or twice a year in big fights that would be cool. Strikeforce has enough guys at 185 that would make some exciting match ups. Miller, Lawler for sure, Shields, all fun fights for the fans, plus strikeforce is still building up its roster.

]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127390 Angry Mike Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:32:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127390 Very articulate guy. As a fan I hope he conintues to fight, but only if he's really dedicated to the sport. If he's disinterested, he owes it to himself, the sport and the fans to do something else. Very articulate guy. As a fan I hope he conintues to fight, but only if he’s really dedicated to the sport. If he’s disinterested, he owes it to himself, the sport and the fans to do something else.

]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/09/22/5-oz-exclusive-with-cung-le-i-have-to-do-the-right-thing-for-myself-and-my-family-too/comment-page-1/#comment-127384 edub Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:19:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17412#comment-127384 He sounds very sincere. Hopefully he can make some sort of a comeback to fight someone in Strikeforces MW division. Id like to see him and Robbie go at it, or even him vs Jacare(kind of like the ultimate Kick boxer vs Jiu jitsu matchup). He sounds very sincere. Hopefully he can make some sort of a comeback to fight someone in Strikeforces MW division. Id like to see him and Robbie go at it, or even him vs Jacare(kind of like the ultimate Kick boxer vs Jiu jitsu matchup).

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