Comments on: O Strikeforce, Where art thou? http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 27 May 2012 01:50:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: QueenKong http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129079 QueenKong Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:00:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129079 I just read on another mma news site that Mark Miller-TUF 9 alum and IFL vet to face Deray Davis who was on Bellator.It says on the undercard on CBS so Idk if this is planed for tv or not.When I read it I thought with all the big names thrown around I'll be disappointed if this is on the televised card since there's only 4 bouts planned. I definitely agree with this article that they need to hurry and get this card set and promote it. I just read on another mma news site that Mark Miller-TUF 9 alum and IFL vet to face Deray Davis who was on Bellator.It says on the undercard on CBS so Idk if this is planed for tv or not.When I read it I thought with all the big names thrown around I’ll be disappointed if this is on the televised card since there’s only 4 bouts planned.
I definitely agree with this article that they need to hurry and get this card set and promote it.

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]]> By: scarred fighter http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129077 scarred fighter Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:04:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129077 this so really stupid. they finally get a fight for fedor and the rest of the card is not filled. strikeforce better be careful before they end up like elite xc broke and dun like dinner get the card filled ediots today this so really stupid. they finally get a fight for fedor and the rest of the card is not filled. strikeforce better be careful before they end up like elite xc broke and dun like dinner get the card filled ediots today

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]]> By: MMApride19 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129075 MMApride19 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:29:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129075 <blockquote cite="comment-129072"> <strong><a href="#comment-129072" rel="nofollow">MM izzle my Nizzle</a></strong>: Also the later they leave it the less likely the UFC can counter any of it’s moves. They have learned from others mistakes and are leaving it until 1, they are all butsure they can go ahead 2, the UFC will find it difficult to…play the game shall we say </blockquote> Hmmm i strongly disagree with this. They should be promoting.. marketing... extensively. Why is UFC so big? Because they market and promote the fighters and events like they are going to be the biggest events of the year. And thats for EVERY event. UFC hype events and fighters up so much, that you always know about it/them. Whether it be from the website.. or on TV. Strikeforce should be marketing this fight to be unmissable. I mean, hype Rogers up SO MUCH, that people are watching it because it may be the first time ever that Fedor loses. You know, get those doubts into people minds, make things exciting. And with just ONE confirmed fight.. thats not an EVENT. Im sorry, but that isnt acceptable i dont think. Especially with such a short time left. That is not oganised, and not how a professional organisation should act. Im also not please that hey announced Mousassi would fight, so close to the event.. AND his opponent hasnt even been announced... If the opponent hasnt even been decided yet... and not even notified.. thats even worse!!! I mean poor guy.. he will have only been given ONE month to prepare for Mousassi, a very dangerous fighter. Hmm im glad this article was written, because its something iv been wondering for a while now. Where are you strikeforce? What are you doing? They should be trying to make this the biggest strikeforce event EVER.

MM izzle my Nizzle: Also the later they leave it the less likely the UFC can counter any of it’s moves. They have learned from others mistakes and are leaving it until
1, they are all butsure they can go ahead
2, the UFC will find it difficult to…play the game shall we say

Hmmm i strongly disagree with this. They should be promoting.. marketing… extensively. Why is UFC so big? Because they market and promote the fighters and events like they are going to be the biggest events of the year. And thats for EVERY event. UFC hype events and fighters up so much, that you always know about it/them. Whether it be from the website.. or on TV. Strikeforce should be marketing this fight to be unmissable. I mean, hype Rogers up SO MUCH, that people are watching it because it may be the first time ever that Fedor loses. You know, get those doubts into people minds, make things exciting. And with just ONE confirmed fight.. thats not an EVENT. Im sorry, but that isnt acceptable i dont think. Especially with such a short time left. That is not oganised, and not how a professional organisation should act. Im also not please that hey announced Mousassi would fight, so close to the event.. AND his opponent hasnt even been announced… If the opponent hasnt even been decided yet… and not even notified.. thats even worse!!! I mean poor guy.. he will have only been given ONE month to prepare for Mousassi, a very dangerous fighter.

Hmm im glad this article was written, because its something iv been wondering for a while now. Where are you strikeforce? What are you doing?

They should be trying to make this the biggest strikeforce event EVER.

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]]> By: MM izzle my Nizzle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129072 MM izzle my Nizzle Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:57:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129072 Also the later they leave it the less likely the UFC can counter any of it's moves. They have learned from others mistakes and are leaving it until 1, they are all but sure they can go ahead 2, the UFC will find it difficult to...play the game shall we say Also the later they leave it the less likely the UFC can counter any of it’s moves. They have learned from others mistakes and are leaving it until
1, they are all but sure they can go ahead
2, the UFC will find it difficult to…play the game shall we say

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]]> By: MM izzle my Nizzle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129071 MM izzle my Nizzle Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:54:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129071 Fedor vs Rogers Miller vs Shields Mousasi vs HENDO!!!/Randleman/Sokadju Werdun vs Overeem/Lashley Big Foot vs Kharitonov/Lashley Cyborg vs ??? They are waiting to sign Hendo if possible, they are waiting to see if Overeem can make the piss test and are in negotiations with Dream for Kharitonov. Am I dreaming or will Strikeforce make it happen. Fedor vs Rogers
Miller vs Shields
Mousasi vs HENDO!!!/Randleman/Sokadju
Werdun vs Overeem/Lashley
Big Foot vs Kharitonov/Lashley
Cyborg vs ???
They are waiting to sign Hendo if possible, they are waiting to see if Overeem can make the piss test and are in negotiations with Dream for Kharitonov.
Am I dreaming or will Strikeforce make it happen.

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]]> By: dpk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129064 dpk Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:09:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129064 Yeah, these fights should be locked in by now. I heard that they are actually going to match Werdum and Bigfoot against each other, then they could slide Lashley or Cyborg into the main card. But seriously, they need to finalize these fights by the end of the week, just so the fighters have time game plan. Yeah, these fights should be locked in by now. I heard that they are actually going to match Werdum and Bigfoot against each other, then they could slide Lashley or Cyborg into the main card. But seriously, they need to finalize these fights by the end of the week, just so the fighters have time game plan.

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]]> By: submit662266 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129063 submit662266 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:07:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129063 Good call on the absence of M-1. We haven't seen them b/c they are parasitic and are currently scheming how they will topple THIS MMA promotion. Affliction failed b/c of poor mgmt. When they ran an event, they needed to promote their next event. They never did that. SF needs to promote this event as well or M-1 will take the money and run. Look at the one giant success story in MMA: during all of their shows, they promote upcoming shows (isn't that brilliant?). They tell us who will be fighting, splice in the top 5 highlights from their careers within 2 seconds with muddled graphics, and then wait for us to show them the money. And it works!! Good call on the absence of M-1. We haven’t seen them b/c they are parasitic and are currently scheming how they will topple THIS MMA promotion.

Affliction failed b/c of poor mgmt. When they ran an event, they needed to promote their next event. They never did that. SF needs to promote this event as well or M-1 will take the money and run. Look at the one giant success story in MMA: during all of their shows, they promote upcoming shows (isn’t that brilliant?). They tell us who will be fighting, splice in the top 5 highlights from their careers within 2 seconds with muddled graphics, and then wait for us to show them the money. And it works!!

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129062 edub Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:57:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129062 <blockquote cite="comment-129058"> <strong><a href="#comment-129058" rel="nofollow">H3ro</a></strong>: This is what sets apart UFC from StrikeForce. Great management. A lot of people diss Dana White for speaking up, but he has not had any problems with matchups or fighters for a UFC event.I can’t blame CBS for not promoting StrikeForce right now. They don’t have enough to promote the event. It’s CBS waiting for StrikeForce to get it’s act together.Matchmaking for StrikeForce must be difficult because they don’t have enough good fighters to mix and match. They can’t even find somebody for Gegard, and the Lightheavyweight Division is stacked with great fighters…mostly in UFC though.One more thing: Where the hell is M-1 in all this?? What are they doing to help with the promotion? </blockquote> They're letting Strikeforce use Fedor. Thats where they get ya.

H3ro: This is what sets apart UFC from StrikeForce. Great management. A lot of people diss Dana White for speaking up, but he has not had any problems with matchups or fighters for a UFC event.I can’t blame CBS for not promoting StrikeForce right now. They don’t have enough to promote the event. It’s CBS waiting for StrikeForce to get it’s act together.Matchmaking for StrikeForce must be difficult because they don’t have enough good fighters to mix and match. They can’t even find somebody for Gegard, and the Lightheavyweight Division is stacked with great fighters…mostly in UFC though.One more thing: Where the hell is M-1 in all this?? What are they doing to help with the promotion?

They’re letting Strikeforce use Fedor. Thats where they get ya.

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]]> By: H3ro http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129058 H3ro Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:54:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129058 This is what sets apart UFC from StrikeForce. Great management. A lot of people diss Dana White for speaking up, but he has not had any problems with matchups or fighters for a UFC event. I can't blame CBS for not promoting StrikeForce right now. They don't have enough to promote the event. It's CBS waiting for StrikeForce to get it's act together. Matchmaking for StrikeForce must be difficult because they don't have enough good fighters to mix and match. They can't even find somebody for Gegard, and the Lightheavyweight Division is stacked with great fighters...mostly in UFC though. One more thing: Where the hell is M-1 in all this?? What are they doing to help with the promotion? This is what sets apart UFC from StrikeForce. Great management. A lot of people diss Dana White for speaking up, but he has not had any problems with matchups or fighters for a UFC event.
I can’t blame CBS for not promoting StrikeForce right now. They don’t have enough to promote the event. It’s CBS waiting for StrikeForce to get it’s act together.
Matchmaking for StrikeForce must be difficult because they don’t have enough good fighters to mix and match. They can’t even find somebody for Gegard, and the Lightheavyweight Division is stacked with great fighters…mostly in UFC though.
One more thing: Where the hell is M-1 in all this?? What are they doing to help with the promotion?

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]]> By: fraz http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129048 fraz Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:29:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129048 Very good article. Strikeforce is on the right track but still has a long way to go. As xtreme_machine points out though, Strikeforce is relying on Fedor (and Fedor alone) as the draw for this card - and since it's not a PPV card, they don't even have a huge incentive in rushing to finalize the other bouts. The main problem I see is that they haven't even started promoting Fedor on CBS yet. Both Strikeforce and CBS should already be educating the sports public about Fedor's background and be giving reasons to the casual MMA fan to tune in for that fight. Then once fans tune in, they have the chance to show off their other top fighters. CBS cross-promotes every other TV show they have during NFL games with announcements and previews. They had better start doing the same with Fedor and their Strikeforce card or they are missing a HUGE opportunity to draw new viewers. Also, NOW is the time to get Fedor on the Dave Letterman show a couple of times before the fight. Dave's ratings are huge right now because of the extortion scandal. Is this system fair to the fighters in terms of fight-prep? No, of course not. But that's the norm, not the exception in promotions other than the UFC (and DREAM to a certain extent). Very good article. Strikeforce is on the right track but still has a long way to go.

As xtreme_machine points out though, Strikeforce is relying on Fedor (and Fedor alone) as the draw for this card – and since it’s not a PPV card, they don’t even have a huge incentive in rushing to finalize the other bouts.
The main problem I see is that they haven’t even started promoting Fedor on CBS yet.
Both Strikeforce and CBS should already be educating the sports public about Fedor’s background and be giving reasons to the casual MMA fan to tune in for that fight. Then once fans tune in, they have the chance to show off their other top fighters.

CBS cross-promotes every other TV show they have during NFL games with announcements and previews. They had better start doing the same with Fedor and their Strikeforce card or they are missing a HUGE opportunity to draw new viewers.
Also, NOW is the time to get Fedor on the Dave Letterman show a couple of times before the fight. Dave’s ratings are huge right now because of the extortion scandal.

Is this system fair to the fighters in terms of fight-prep? No, of course not. But that’s the norm, not the exception in promotions other than the UFC (and DREAM to a certain extent).

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]]> By: Vogairian http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129046 Vogairian Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:08:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129046 It's starting to get to the point where the fights will seemed thrown together. How many people are going to want to take on Gregard or Fabricio on such short notice and be legitimate threats. It’s starting to get to the point where the fights will seemed thrown together. How many people are going to want to take on Gregard or Fabricio on such short notice and be legitimate threats.

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]]> By: Chi-Town MMA http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129040 Chi-Town MMA Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:23:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129040 I got tickets and can't wait to hear something! It sucks they are waiting so long, but they did just hire that new matchmaker right? BTW: MARK MILLER VS. DERAY DAVIS AT STRIKEFORCE ON CBS I got tickets and can’t wait to hear something! It sucks they are waiting so long, but they did just hire that new matchmaker right?

BTW: MARK MILLER VS. DERAY DAVIS AT STRIKEFORCE ON CBS

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]]> By: xtreme_machine http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129039 xtreme_machine Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:16:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129039 Fedor Emelianenko (30-1) vs. Brett Rogers (10-0) is the ONLY fight they need to make ALL of us watch it the rest are just perks Fedor Emelianenko (30-1) vs. Brett Rogers (10-0)

is the ONLY fight they need to make ALL of us watch it

the rest are just perks

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]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129034 ozz_the_powerful Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:27:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129034 Correct Dave, also known as "The Patchwork Quilt Fiasco" I hope injury and illness doesn't plague this card as well, but honestly, after the changes and rechanges on the last card, I'm used to it from SF. Doesn't mean I won't watch though. I honestly don't know how deep any of their rosters are. Perhaps they have to dig a bit to get injury free / medically unsuspended fighters? Either way the rabbits will be pulled from the hat in due time. Correct Dave, also known as “The Patchwork Quilt Fiasco”

I hope injury and illness doesn’t plague this card as well, but honestly, after the changes and rechanges on the last card, I’m used to it from SF. Doesn’t mean I won’t watch though.

I honestly don’t know how deep any of their rosters are. Perhaps they have to dig a bit to get injury free / medically unsuspended fighters?

Either way the rabbits will be pulled from the hat in due time.

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]]> By: David Andrest http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129030 David Andrest Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:52:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129030 Cyborg is out with injury. If we remember correctly, cyborg vs. corano turned into a trainwreck with injuries and changes. Hopefully this new match maker will finally get this all under control. I love Strikeforce and they have some great talent under contract. it's time to use them. Cyborg is out with injury.

If we remember correctly, cyborg vs. corano turned into a trainwreck with injuries and changes.

Hopefully this new match maker will finally get this all under control. I love Strikeforce and they have some great talent under contract. it’s time to use them.

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]]> By: Joseph http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129029 Joseph Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:51:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129029 1) CBS is going to start promoting the event on CBS more and more as we get closer: 2) There was one CBS commercial during the NFL Pregame Show this past weekend. 3) Most fights are already confirmed, (two undercard bouts are already official). 4) They are only showing 4 fights (5th will be a swing bout) for the event, and have most people lined up. They are going to make this card pretty huge, and the rest of the televised card will be ready by the end of this week, early next week. All fighters are already training for their bouts. 1) CBS is going to start promoting the event on CBS more and more as we get closer:

2) There was one CBS commercial during the NFL Pregame Show this past weekend.

3) Most fights are already confirmed, (two undercard bouts are already official).

4) They are only showing 4 fights (5th will be a swing bout) for the event, and have most people lined up. They are going to make this card pretty huge, and the rest of the televised card will be ready by the end of this week, early next week. All fighters are already training for their bouts.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/07/o-strikeforce-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-129027 edub Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:38:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=17853#comment-129027 Great article. I was thinking about this scenario today. Ive seen reports on Cyborg being on this card against Marloes Coenan. How the hell would they fit that in to the main card. This just seems like 1 big cluster f*ck to me. It really will be a shame if the fights on Nov. 7th are effected by it. IMO Coker should have had the fights figured out the hour after he was notified the card on NOV. 7th was a go. Great article. I was thinking about this scenario today.

Ive seen reports on Cyborg being on this card against Marloes Coenan. How the hell would they fit that in to the main card.

This just seems like 1 big cluster f*ck to me. It really will be a shame if the fights on Nov. 7th are effected by it.

IMO Coker should have had the fights figured out the hour after he was notified the card on NOV. 7th was a go.

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