5 Oz. Exclusive with Shane Carwin: ‘Brock is what they call a “draw”, I am what they call a “fighter”‘
In what is quickly shaping up to be one of the most anticipated heavyweight championship bouts in the history of the sport, there’s no love lost on either end from fellow athletic behemoth’s Shane Carwin and Brock Lesnar heading into their explosive collision set for UFC 106.
As we speak, Octagon construction technicians are likely working at a feverish pace constructing the reinforced cage that will be required to withstand the impact when close to 550 pounds of stupid freakish strength locks horns on November 21 in Sin City.
Not known for biting his tongue when it comes to his…….. discontent with Lesnar, FiveOuncesofPain.com recently had the chance to catch up with Mr. Carwin to gather his thoughts on recent remarks made by the current UFC heavyweight champion to The Las Vegas Sun where the larger than life title holder had this to say:
He’s a tough guy. He’s undefeated, but some of the guys he’s beaten aren’t worthy of having on your record. He hasn’t fought anybody. He’s fought Gonzaga, so I really think he’s 1-0.
While Carwin will be the first to agree that “Napao” was one legit heavyweight he’s faced, he’d be lying if he said that Brock’s recent remarks haven’t further fueled the fire that has long been burning to put a beatdown on the outspoken money machine.
“I totally agree that Gonzaga was one tough fighter,” said Carwin. “Anyone in the cage is a tough guy and deserves respect. This is one of the reasons I am looking forward to this fight.”
Stepping the mudslinging up a notch, Carwin made it a point to remind Lesnar that unlike many of his bouts in the former WWE superstar’s previous career, the winner in this one will be far from predetermined, stating, “Brock forgets there were no scripts issued with the bout agreements. He better be training for a war because I will be.”
Although similar in stature, Shane would go on to explain that the pair couldn’t be any more opposite in his opinion.
“I feel like I have paid my dues and so have a lot of fighters waiting for their shot,” said the undefeated knockout artist. “Brock is what they call a “Draw”, he sells tickets, I am what they call a “Fighter”, I fight who I am told to fight the way my coaches train me too. We are different people and we treat people different. To me this sport is as much about respect and honor as it is paychecks sound bites.”
In the recent conversation with The Las Vegas Sun, Lesnar further went on to drag Carwin’s wrestling credentials into question, stating:
He’s a tough guy and a wrestler. But he’s a Division II national champion — enough said.
When it comes down to it, Carwin would like to point out that at the core, Lesnar has no idea who he is or where he came from, and he’d be wise not to make any ASSumptions in regards to the fellow goliath’s ability to hold his own on the canvas.
“I choose to go to a School that would allow me to play both sports and pursue my academic goals,” explained the former NCAA Division II Wrestling Heavyweight National Champion. “I wasn’t raised to go to this program or that. I was raised in a house where sports came after the education and doing two sports meant even more work for me. I could have likely played football at any D1 college and likely would have been an All American but they would not let a full ride Football player wrestle. Just the same, I could have likely wrestled and been an All American at the D1 level but there were even fewer wrestling scholarships available and the Coaches were not interested in having big slow football players taking spots of dedicated wrestlers. Division II College really gave me the opportunity to both sports (that I loved) and embraced my academic pursuits.
“During my last year of football I totally focused on nothing but football and made it to the Sr. Bowl from a Div II College. Then after time away from the wrestling room I was able to return to wrestling shape and win a Div II National College Title.”
What it really comes down to is that it’s going to be a fight, not a wrestling match. We can go back and forth about wrestling credentials and mat superiority all day, but all that truly matters is that one man will remain conscious and the other will not when the dust settles in the Las Vegas desert in November.
Cory Brady is the managing editor of FiveOuncesOfPain.com, along with being a regular feature writer with Ultimate MMA Magazine. You can follow him on Twitter at http://twitter.com/corybrady
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if Shane can keep it standing then he KOs brock
but if brock takes him down then TKO via GnP
Brock TKO 2nd
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Carwin KO in the 2nd
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Brock Tko round 2 (gnp)
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Since YOU told everyone not to use the WWE card I will listen and not go down that road. Because I am always one to listen to what people tell me what my opinion should be.
To the point that Carwin will gas, is completely moronic and absurd. The guy trains in high altitude and been wrestling for many years. These guys know how to train and cardio will be the last reason why Carwin loses (if he loses at all)
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As I said, Carwin by TKO, Round 2.
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‘Brock is what they call a “Draw”, he sells tickets, I am what they call a “Fighter”’. I love it!
And despite what others above me have said about Brock being legit, and we should forget about the whole WWE thing, Brock didn’t forget about it when he played the heel at the end of his last fight, and went on about Coors and Bud, and climbing on top of his wife. That ain’t normal. That’s WWE.
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It’s true that Carwin still works a job, and doesn’t have as expensive of a training camp, but that doesn’t necessarily win a fight. Carwin isn’t stupid, I don’t think he’d keep working if it was seriously affecting his training camp. If anything it just goes to show Carwin’s work ethic.
Who knows? I don’t think anyone can really make all that convincing an argument on either side. I think the one thing so far everyone has agreed on and will continue to agree on is that regardless of how much gas either fighter has in the tank, 5 rounds are definitely not necessary for this fight.
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Lesnar is presumably better at wrestling. However, this is MMA, not pure grappling. Carwin has more striking experience – even if most fights were not against “legit” competition, that experience is still by nature markedly different from gym sparring experience. Carwin has an edge in standup striking, Lesnar the edge in takedowns and gnp. Gonzaga was able to take down Carwin so no question Lesnar can. However, can Carwin’s boxing make an impact first? That is pretty much the deciding factor.
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wow, since my sole opinion seems to be enough to go down as order, maybe i should state my opinion that its not good give me thumbs down, coz i seem to have the most of them.
nah, just kidding. i’m really looking forward to that fight, but i think its rather hard to predict. lesnar never fought a guy like carwin, neither did carwin ever fight a guy like lesnar. and we havent seen that much of them so far.
what will lesnar do if carwin can actually stop his takedowns? we dont know, he was tested against couture, but can he survive a standup with carwin?. what will carwin do if he cannot stop them? gonzaga had him on the ground. but we dont know either. but we will.
but one thing is for sure: the wwe has nothing to do with this fight or its prediction, and to bring it up is just simpleminded. what happens after a fight is another story, i agree, but i meant comments about scripted bouts and determined outcomes. i just don’t like carwin bringing that up again, its the same boring story over again.
but lets be real, guys like tito ortiz had some serious trashtalk as well, is that alright coz he never was in wwe? and i dont remember ken shamrock getting this amount of hate because of wwe..
i believe many guys just don’t like lesnars personality, which is perfectly fine. but i also believe that lesnar would not act any different if he never were in wwe. he is not that sort of showguy, call me a fool if you want, but i really believe that.
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My armchair analysis for Carwin: it would be a very good tactical idea for Carwin to copy Couture’s tactic – push Lesnar to the fence as soon as possible, then back off to pick some strikes, then push again — avoids Lesnar’s rush by taking it to him and closing down the space and confines things to boxing range as much as possible. Long range (space for Lesnar’s shot) is a very, very bad idea.
Very tough to call, other than to say it’s likely TKO via gnp by Lesnar or KO by Carwin standing. Difficult to see it going 5 rounds. Should be a very good matchup.
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+1 on S13
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s13 says:
October 10, 2009 at 1:33 pm (Quote) I guess everyone forgets that Shane is 11-0 with 11ko/tkos all within 3 minutes…but yeah that doesn’t mean anything.
one thing s13 Carwin has 5 KO/TKO and 6 SUBS and yeah that means a whole lot.
dont leave that arm out there brock you might get caught
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I personally want Carwin to win this fight because I’m tired of hearing about Brock Lesnar being the bees-knees when he’s only fought 5 fights. Lesnar has outweighed each of his 4 opponents by at least 40 lbs. at fight-time, which makes a substantial difference. How will he do with someone he can’t throw around like a ragdoll that has engine blocks for fists and can break your leg as well? We will all see.
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Is he as good as Mir or Herring? because they got destroyed. Clutching at straws my friend. Comparing Carwin to Horn! dude dream on. Horn has been 1 of the best sub guys in his weight and has like 2 million fights against top guys that outweigh him Like Liddel, Couture, Babalu etc. Carwin on the other hand has fought guys like Nobody, Irrelevant, No good and Gonzaga and got luky against Napao.
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Brock has HUGE size advantage in ALL HIS 5 FIGHTS. Lets see what he can do with someone his own size and MORE experience
and as for HYPE MACHAINE……who has been more hyped between Brock and Carwin????
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Shane is da Man, unfortunately for him (and anybody else for that matter) Brock is unbeatable right now! But hey, its mma…anything can happen lol
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Im going for Brock but I have to addmit great match up,
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“is kneeling beside a person and throwing hammer fists as fast as possible ground and pound? Because if not, i don’t think i’ve ever seen brock use what i’ve always thought ground and pound is.”
Oh, wow. You haven’t seen the second Mir fight yet? Hamburger Hill.
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Yea if you wanna prove a point why dont you just pull guard and show how innate is gnp is.
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