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		<title>By: MMA-LOGIC</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/25/live-video-ufc-104-post-fight-press-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-131116</link>
		<dc:creator>MMA-LOGIC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I went a bit far with the &quot;it&#039;s a conspiracy&quot; talk but I was a little angry (and drunk).
Watched the fight for a third time. Shogun won.
After the fight you can see Dana lean over and say to Shogun &quot;I had you winning that fight&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I went a bit far with the &#8220;it&#8217;s a conspiracy&#8221; talk but I was a little angry (and drunk).<br />
Watched the fight for a third time. Shogun won.<br />
After the fight you can see Dana lean over and say to Shogun &#8220;I had you winning that fight&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: edub</title>
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		<dc:creator>edub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana said Cain looks really good but he&#039;s only had 7 fights.(On if cain is ready for a title shot.)

Id say seven fights is a lot better than having 3 fights and going 2-1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana said Cain looks really good but he&#8217;s only had 7 fights.(On if cain is ready for a title shot.)</p>
<p>Id say seven fights is a lot better than having 3 fights and going 2-1.</p>
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		<title>By: mcrae</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcrae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft Silverlight?? Come on fiveouncesofpain - can&#039;t even watch the damn video because you guys are Dependant on Microsoft

Oh is there any question Shogun won?? He won the fight I watched ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft Silverlight?? Come on fiveouncesofpain &#8211; can&#8217;t even watch the damn video because you guys are Dependant on Microsoft</p>
<p>Oh is there any question Shogun won?? He won the fight I watched &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bigbadjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbadjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calling it a fix suggests the outcome was predetermined. I don&#039;t believe that but I do believe there is some invested interest in having The Dragon, who the UFC is making out to be a P4P rival with The Spider, retain the belt. Machida is gaining massive popularity and half the people who tuned in last night had probably never heard of Shogun. The LHW belt has been kryptonite of late. Unfortunately It&#039;s first defence in 4 holders is this lack-lustre piece of shit bout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling it a fix suggests the outcome was predetermined. I don&#8217;t believe that but I do believe there is some invested interest in having The Dragon, who the UFC is making out to be a P4P rival with The Spider, retain the belt. Machida is gaining massive popularity and half the people who tuned in last night had probably never heard of Shogun. The LHW belt has been kryptonite of late. Unfortunately It&#8217;s first defence in 4 holders is this lack-lustre piece of shit bout.</p>
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		<title>By: Vogairian</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/25/live-video-ufc-104-post-fight-press-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-130927</link>
		<dc:creator>Vogairian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-130924&quot;&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-130924&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tcan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: to say its ignorant to think something fishy is going on is ignorance. fights have been fixed since there have been fights. the power is too centerally located in this sport and the people with that power arent exactly the salt of the earth.. Do i think the fight was a straight up work? NO. would I be surprised that there was something that wasnt on the level? NO. I said I smell wrestling. if you cant then your in a dream world. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m sorry, but I think claiming a fight is fixed just because you didn&#039;t like the ending is ignorant.  Like I asked before, what&#039;s the end game of that fix?  Why do it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="comment-130924"><p> <strong><a href="#comment-130924" rel="nofollow">Tcan</a></strong>: to say its ignorant to think something fishy is going on is ignorance. fights have been fixed since there have been fights. the power is too centerally located in this sport and the people with that power arent exactly the salt of the earth.. Do i think the fight was a straight up work? NO. would I be surprised that there was something that wasnt on the level? NO. I said I smell wrestling. if you cant then your in a dream world. </p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I think claiming a fight is fixed just because you didn&#8217;t like the ending is ignorant.  Like I asked before, what&#8217;s the end game of that fix?  Why do it?</p>
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		<title>By: Tcan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to say its ignorant to think something fishy is going on is ignorance. fights have been fixed since there have been fights. the power is too centerally located in this sport and the people with that power arent exactly the salt of the earth.. Do i think the fight was a straight up work? NO. would I be surprised that there was something that wasnt on the level? NO. I said I smell wrestling. if you cant then your in a dream world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to say its ignorant to think something fishy is going on is ignorance. fights have been fixed since there have been fights. the power is too centerally located in this sport and the people with that power arent exactly the salt of the earth.. Do i think the fight was a straight up work? NO. would I be surprised that there was something that wasnt on the level? NO. I said I smell wrestling. if you cant then your in a dream world.</p>
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		<title>By: neijia</title>
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		<dc:creator>neijia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-130909&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-130909&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vogairian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
I got caught up the same way, but really after watching It I could see how you gave the fight to Machida if you have the “Beat the champ decisively or he keeps it” mentality.Only two rounds that you could say “Wow, Machida got owned” were 4 and 5.
&lt;/blockquote&gt; .Like I’ve said here a few times, I do think Shogun was robbed, but I think it was a lot closer than what a lot of the people posting here think.

I am probably a minority of one here, but that is how I saw it last night. It&#039;s too hard to say Rua won 1, 2, and 3. Kicking the champ a bunch of times in the legs while the champ threw more punch/kick combinations and nice muay thai knees just doesn&#039;t get the win in my book. If it had went like Griffin vs. Rampage, different story. But that didn&#039;t happen. Machida&#039;s legs are banged up but that&#039;s it.  In any case, this does set up a perfect rematch situation.

How about Rothwell? I was surprised the big man could do nothing.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-130909" rel="nofollow">Vogairian</a></strong>:<br />
I got caught up the same way, but really after watching It I could see how you gave the fight to Machida if you have the “Beat the champ decisively or he keeps it” mentality.Only two rounds that you could say “Wow, Machida got owned” were 4 and 5.
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<p> .Like I’ve said here a few times, I do think Shogun was robbed, but I think it was a lot closer than what a lot of the people posting here think.</p>
<p>I am probably a minority of one here, but that is how I saw it last night. It&#8217;s too hard to say Rua won 1, 2, and 3. Kicking the champ a bunch of times in the legs while the champ threw more punch/kick combinations and nice muay thai knees just doesn&#8217;t get the win in my book. If it had went like Griffin vs. Rampage, different story. But that didn&#8217;t happen. Machida&#8217;s legs are banged up but that&#8217;s it.  In any case, this does set up a perfect rematch situation.</p>
<p>How about Rothwell? I was surprised the big man could do nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Vogairian</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/25/live-video-ufc-104-post-fight-press-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-130909</link>
		<dc:creator>Vogairian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-130874&quot;&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-130874&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tcan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Im worried about the direction of the sport. the same people make the match ups, sign the checks, and call the shots. I smell wrestling, I hope its ignorance and not a work. im going to bed &lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s ignorance.  Sometimes a close fight doesn&#039;t go the right way, it happens, no one is fixing fights.  Seriously, what&#039;s the advantage to fixing this fight?  There&#039;s no logic to it.  If you want to go the big money route, he was a 6-1 favorite.... no money to be made.  Big fight wise, a fight like this doesn&#039;t help Machida&#039;s marketability in any way, in fact it hurts it till he can get a clean win on Shogun.  So what&#039;s the end game of this fix, why risk everything for no gain whatsoever?  

You guys are just overly emotional and are trying to explain why a crappy desicion happened.  I got caught up the same way, but really after watching It I could see how you gave the fight to Machida if you have the &quot;Beat the champ decisively or he keeps it&quot; mentality.  Only two rounds that you could say &quot;Wow, Machida got owned&quot; were 4 and 5.  Like I&#039;ve said here a few times, I do think Shogun was robbed, but I think it was a lot closer than what a lot of the people posting here think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="comment-130874"><p> <strong><a href="#comment-130874" rel="nofollow">Tcan</a></strong>: Im worried about the direction of the sport. the same people make the match ups, sign the checks, and call the shots. I smell wrestling, I hope its ignorance and not a work. im going to bed </p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s ignorance.  Sometimes a close fight doesn&#8217;t go the right way, it happens, no one is fixing fights.  Seriously, what&#8217;s the advantage to fixing this fight?  There&#8217;s no logic to it.  If you want to go the big money route, he was a 6-1 favorite&#8230;. no money to be made.  Big fight wise, a fight like this doesn&#8217;t help Machida&#8217;s marketability in any way, in fact it hurts it till he can get a clean win on Shogun.  So what&#8217;s the end game of this fix, why risk everything for no gain whatsoever?  </p>
<p>You guys are just overly emotional and are trying to explain why a crappy desicion happened.  I got caught up the same way, but really after watching It I could see how you gave the fight to Machida if you have the &#8220;Beat the champ decisively or he keeps it&#8221; mentality.  Only two rounds that you could say &#8220;Wow, Machida got owned&#8221; were 4 and 5.  Like I&#8217;ve said here a few times, I do think Shogun was robbed, but I think it was a lot closer than what a lot of the people posting here think.</p>
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		<title>By: Tcan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would say more but...Damn. ive watched it 3 times now and I cant see what they saw. By the way, i had money on machida. i love the sport. i fight, i compete, i watch with a keen eye. i dont know what they saw. Please, let me know where im wrong. ill not only listen to, but ill give the benefit of the doubt to any logical logical argument.  i was there in san antonio for the the Cerroni v Henderson fight, and i thought that was a mistake. the Vasquez(san antonio) desision was even worse. however, this was insane.  Im worried about the direction of the sport. the same people make the match ups, sign the checks, and call the shots. I smell wrestling, I hope its ignorance and not a work. im going to bed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would say more but&#8230;Damn. ive watched it 3 times now and I cant see what they saw. By the way, i had money on machida. i love the sport. i fight, i compete, i watch with a keen eye. i dont know what they saw. Please, let me know where im wrong. ill not only listen to, but ill give the benefit of the doubt to any logical logical argument.  i was there in san antonio for the the Cerroni v Henderson fight, and i thought that was a mistake. the Vasquez(san antonio) desision was even worse. however, this was insane.  Im worried about the direction of the sport. the same people make the match ups, sign the checks, and call the shots. I smell wrestling, I hope its ignorance and not a work. im going to bed</p>
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		<title>By: Tcan</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/25/live-video-ufc-104-post-fight-press-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-130872</link>
		<dc:creator>Tcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this was horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this was horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: MMA-LOGIC</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/25/live-video-ufc-104-post-fight-press-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-130865</link>
		<dc:creator>MMA-LOGIC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fedor sux-Dana White</description>
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		<title>By: David Andrest</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/25/live-video-ufc-104-post-fight-press-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-130863</link>
		<dc:creator>David Andrest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mazzagatti  shouldn&#039;t be allowed to watch MMA  let alone Ref  it  -  Dana White</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mazzagatti  shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to watch MMA  let alone Ref  it  &#8211;  Dana White</p>
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		<title>By: MMA-LOGIC</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/25/live-video-ufc-104-post-fight-press-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-130861</link>
		<dc:creator>MMA-LOGIC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Dana was a party to this outrage do you think he is stupid enough to agree with the judges who everybody knows were wrong and are screaming foul over?. Damage control baby.
I&#039;ll say it they wanted Randy vs Machida. Who &quot;they&quot; are is all speculation and that is the reason that this sort of thing cannot be stopped. Who killed JFK? we will never really know but we have our suspicions, was this fight fixed? we will never be able to say yes 100% and we will never know why or who. It is just a slap in the face when it is so obvious.

P.S. It wont be the last time.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ are a catch-22.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Dana was a party to this outrage do you think he is stupid enough to agree with the judges who everybody knows were wrong and are screaming foul over?. Damage control baby.<br />
I&#8217;ll say it they wanted Randy vs Machida. Who &#8220;they&#8221; are is all speculation and that is the reason that this sort of thing cannot be stopped. Who killed JFK? we will never really know but we have our suspicions, was this fight fixed? we will never be able to say yes 100% and we will never know why or who. It is just a slap in the face when it is so obvious.</p>
<p>P.S. It wont be the last time.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ are a catch-22.</p>
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		<title>By: David Andrest</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Andrest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-130845&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-130845&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Makington&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I can’t get the video, but it seems like Dana is supporting the judges decision?

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dana was pretty clear he didn&#039;t agree with the decision, but what can he do about it?   He want&#039;s to set up the rematch ASAP. 

And was clear that he is baffled how everyone in the world can see a fight one way, and 3 judges can see it another.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-130845" rel="nofollow">Makington</a></strong>: I can’t get the video, but it seems like Dana is supporting the judges decision?</p>
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<p>Dana was pretty clear he didn&#8217;t agree with the decision, but what can he do about it?   He want&#8217;s to set up the rematch ASAP. </p>
<p>And was clear that he is baffled how everyone in the world can see a fight one way, and 3 judges can see it another.</p>
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		<title>By: Makington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Makington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t get the video, but it seems like Dana is supporting the judges decision?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t get the video, but it seems like Dana is supporting the judges decision?</p>
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		<title>By: ozz_the_powerful</title>
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		<dc:creator>ozz_the_powerful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana....... Business man, fight fan, whatever!!! 

You HAVE to KNOW this was BS!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana&#8230;&#8230;. Business man, fight fan, whatever!!! </p>
<p>You HAVE to KNOW this was BS!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ozz_the_powerful</title>
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		<dc:creator>ozz_the_powerful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still cannot honestly believe that people are taking this seriously. A re-match? Rua WON!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still cannot honestly believe that people are taking this seriously. A re-match? Rua WON!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Makington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Makington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not working on mine either. Stupid Mac&#039;s. That&#039;s what I get for listening to my girlfriend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not working on mine either. Stupid Mac&#8217;s. That&#8217;s what I get for listening to my girlfriend.</p>
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		<title>By: ozz_the_powerful</title>
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		<dc:creator>ozz_the_powerful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working now. Anyways, I see a buch of bullshit ............... sill</description>
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		<title>By: edub</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/25/live-video-ufc-104-post-fight-press-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-130830</link>
		<dc:creator>edub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a terrible question somebody kick her out.</description>
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