If the fight is even then score it even! Same with each round. Why don’t we apply that logic to every sport then. If the defending super bowl champs are tied up at the end of the 4th during the season then instead of going to sudden death they should just get the nod. Yeah that makes sense.

Machida should do the Right thing tho + hand the Belt to Shogun Rua, in fact he shouldda done it in the Ring!! It would have been thee Biggest thing of all time!!

U know U got Beat Machida!! Do the Right thing + Give the Effin’ Belt to the Winner!!!

First and most importantly, this guy is a complete, and utter dick. He really is. Every time he judges, there is always controversy, well most times anyway. He simply sucks when judging an MMA fight, i dont have experience seeing him judge a boxing fight, as i dont watch much boxing lol. But, he is very bad judging MMA. He does not seem at all knowledgeable of the sport, and does not address all aspects of the sport. I honestly cannot stand the guy.

We shouldnt be arguing about whether Machida or Shogun won, we should be arguing about whether the judges are fit to judge, because if they were, there wouldnt be so much debate over decisions. And there is a few stand out fights that have caused plenty of controversy over who won the decision and who didnt. Close decisions are always going to occur, however they need to be judged correctly, or days or even weeks of debates on the same subject occur. And worse, they have an effect on the fighters mental state. I dont know if any of you train MMA, but do any of you learn to fight under the ‘criteria’ of Cecil Peoples lol? Well i most definetly dont. His criteria are all alien to me, i have no idea what he is trying to say sometimes, its that ridiculous.

I know fighters should always try and finish fights etc etc, but like it or not, decisions are a large part of MMA, they happen often. And when they happen, they need to be judged correctly. Ok, i agree that little mistakes are always made, but Cecil Peoples really takes the piss sometimes, his mistakes are not mistakes, they are more – they are stupidity in the strongest degree. His justifications for everything are just laughable. Im not just on about his justifications for this fight, but for many fights in the past. He is shocking, and should never be aloud to judge an MMA fight.

Judging in MMA should be a way to decide the rightful winner based on 3 aspects: Octagon Control, Grappling and Effective Strikes. Cecil Peoples seems to judge on styles, and what HE thinks is correct. You only have to read this guys comments to understand.

Everyones debating whether Shogun Rua or Machida won. I think we need to have debates on whether Cecil Peoples should be judging MMA. As a HUGE fan of MMA, i hate to see an inexperienced guy (in MMA area) like that ruin the sport, by trying to change the criteria of winning a decision. Thats what it seems like he is doing to me. This decision was just the icing on the cake. But there have been many others…

“Everybody was expecting him to destroy Shogun like he destroyed Rashad Evans, and he didn’t destroy him.” Everybody???? I think that it is safe to say that judges should NEVER have a fight already predetermined in their minds before they judge a fight but it sounds like ol’ Cecil probably even knew the betting line for this fight.

IMO the UFC needs to be proactive in fixing their scoring system, selecting better judges (they do this with referees esp. in main events, so why not better judges?) NO they instead spend their time going after “competitors” (Affliction, Strikeforce) who, in reality, are just helping promote the sport and are NO threat to the UFC

Also, did you read his reasonings for how Machida won? ‘Machida was dominant at not getting beat up.’ Seriously?! That’s all you have to do to win nowadays? That statement is so terribly flawed that words genuinely fail me, and I have a snappy comeback to everything. When what you say is so dumb that all I can do is blink, then god damn, you suck.

edub: Simple solution: Get rid of boxing judges in mma.

Exactly.
In what other sport do we have Refs or Judges going between 2 or more sports?
There are no NBA refs working for the NFL or NHL.
Just because both MMA and boxing involve striking does not mean that someone trained in one is qualified for the other.

Davey D: Oh dang, edub…my bad homie. Seriously though, when they said Machida won. The bar I was at was quiet as fack for 4 or 5 seconds. Then, all the Machida riders were like, “Woooo…yeah, baby….Woooo”. It was very, very funny to say the least. All I could think was, “This is bullshit”.

Def garbage man. I still dont understand how Lyoto thinks he had him in danger 3 or 4 times.

Cory Brady:
neijia, I have no need of having a buddy of mine practice his Thai kicks on either my thigh, or shin for that matter. The main reason being that I have trained alongside fighters for several hard, bruise filled years. I know what it feels like to have severe hematomas from repetetive leg kicks absorbed on my thighs, and welts runninng all the way down my shin from checking kicks. My main point being that I feel like I am a pretty good judge of when someone is doing more severe damage just based on my experience of having to deal with the after effects of being on the receiving end of those kicks that many would rather believe had no impact on Machida. Whether he admits it or not, Lyoto has been feeling the pain in the days since their bout, and Shogun won that fight.

corey – sorry, question was not just you, but any of you guys who have this experienced taking lots of these kicks… how do you then judge kicks to weighted vs. unweighted legs vs. punches to face and for that matter vs. knees to body

If you picked Machida…I’m sorry, you are wrong.

This rematch can’t come quick enough but we’ll have to wait until at least January.

It’s funny, my friend bet me a beer that Machida would win. I just happened to buy a round as the 5th round was ending. I gave him his beer before the verdict was read and he goes, “Naw, Naw…Shogun clearly won that fight; I owe you.”

Well…we all know what happened next. I can’t help but think I jinxed Shogun. Cheers!!!

Screenplaya: But it can also mean that an even round is scored for the champ. If the challenger doesnt do enough to win the round, then he has failed, and the champ gets the nod. I don’t really have an issue with this.

Good point playa.

I think that title fights are viewed differently by many fans and even some (or maybe most) judges. To beat the champ, you gotta beat him. That means a tie goes to champ, which it does. But it can also mean that an even round is scored for the champ. If the challenger doesnt do enough to win the round, then he has failed, and the champ gets the nod. I don’t really have an issue with this.

Also, I think the lack of balance in Joe Rogan’s blow-by-blow coverage of the fight has led a number of people to think that Rua won rounds that he did not win. So many times, Rogan would remark on Rua’s leg kick, without mentioning that Rua had taken a right hook to the cheek at the same time.

But, if that had not been a title fight, Rua would have won.

‘Playa