Comments on: Grappling with Iss-BOO-es: Jason Polley http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/30/grappling-with-iss-boo-es-jason-polley/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 23:36:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: nate http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/30/grappling-with-iss-boo-es-jason-polley/comment-page-1/#comment-131692 nate Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:35:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18370#comment-131692 why is everyone all for Cain? top level hw? yes I agree. bigger threat than Shane Carwin? not a chance! why does everyone entirely overlook Shanes picture perfect record? 11 fights 6 subs 5 t/kos ALL first round. cane mauled Ben for sure. how many punches did he deliver unanswered without even knocking out big Ben rothwell? not enough power and minimal submission skills he pales in comparison to carwin. wrestling is Cains thing..well Shane is top notch as well not to mention he is 6"4 260.. striking? hah... Shane knocked out gonzaga with a fading right push punch WHILE rocked! let's not forget when Shane had his feet planted and he delivered a proper right he blew Christian wellischs mouthpiece halfway across the cage and crumpled him. one shot. also he trains in Colorado at high altitude with guys like Nate the great and Brendan schaub and even Greg Jackson. Shane is thee complete fighter at HW cardio. power. wrestling. striking. submissions. size. he is bigger and stronger than Cain better hands better ground game better camp more fights better record. carwin train is rolling through town jump on before he KOs Brock!!! why is everyone all for Cain? top level hw? yes I agree. bigger threat than Shane Carwin? not a chance! why does everyone entirely overlook Shanes picture perfect record? 11 fights 6 subs 5 t/kos ALL first round. cane mauled Ben for sure. how many punches did he deliver unanswered without even knocking out big Ben rothwell? not enough power and minimal submission skills he pales in comparison to carwin. wrestling is Cains thing..well Shane is top notch as well not to mention he is 6″4 260.. striking? hah… Shane knocked out gonzaga with a fading right push punch WHILE rocked! let’s not forget when Shane had his feet planted and he delivered a proper right he blew Christian wellischs mouthpiece halfway across the cage and crumpled him. one shot. also he trains in Colorado at high altitude with guys like Nate the great and Brendan schaub and even Greg Jackson. Shane is thee complete fighter at HW cardio. power. wrestling. striking. submissions. size. he is bigger and stronger than Cain better hands better ground game better camp more fights better record. carwin train is rolling through town jump on before he KOs Brock!!!

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]]> By: BigDave http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/30/grappling-with-iss-boo-es-jason-polley/comment-page-1/#comment-131590 BigDave Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:21:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18370#comment-131590 1. 7 Round fights? No way they should do that because there are very few guys that can go 5 let alone 7. 2. I like Okami but he just flat out looked bad against a guy I thought he would beat rather easily. 3. Does Cain deserve a title shot? DAMN RIGHT! I have been saying for months that this guy will be the next HW Champ. He just took a guy who was probably 280 pounds and tossed him around at will. His chin in made of granite and he has the best cardio I have seen in a guy that size ever. I think now with the Lesnar fight being moved he will have to fight someone in the mean time so I say Dos antos is the best fight for him. 4. Alverez is the only one I really want to see in the ufc. Eddie vs. Clay would be an absolute classic fight and would be in my top 3 of fights I want to see. Zaromskis looks good too. Let Ovreem stay in japan with his roids. 5. Sakuraba should still fight atleast once more and against a top lvl guy to see if he has a chance at glory again but if he fails there I would like to see him bow out gracefully. He would make a great trainer for young guys coming up in the sport. 6. Dressup as BJ Penn and walk around with a jar of vaseline wearing a t-shirt with "whiny bitch" on it and plugging your website. 1. 7 Round fights? No way they should do that because there are very few guys that can go 5 let alone 7.

2. I like Okami but he just flat out looked bad against a guy I thought he would beat rather easily.

3. Does Cain deserve a title shot? DAMN RIGHT! I have been saying for months that this guy will be the next HW Champ. He just took a guy who was probably 280 pounds and tossed him around at will. His chin in made of granite and he has the best cardio I have seen in a guy that size ever. I think now with the Lesnar fight being moved he will have to fight someone in the mean time so I say Dos antos is the best fight for him.

4. Alverez is the only one I really want to see in the ufc. Eddie vs. Clay would be an absolute classic fight and would be in my top 3 of fights I want to see. Zaromskis looks good too. Let Ovreem stay in japan with his roids.

5. Sakuraba should still fight atleast once more and against a top lvl guy to see if he has a chance at glory again but if he fails there I would like to see him bow out gracefully. He would make a great trainer for young guys coming up in the sport.

6. Dressup as BJ Penn and walk around with a jar of vaseline wearing a t-shirt with “whiny bitch” on it and plugging your website.

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]]> By: MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/30/grappling-with-iss-boo-es-jason-polley/comment-page-1/#comment-131586 MMA-LOGIC Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:37:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18370#comment-131586 1) Has ther ever been trialed 3 or 4 min rds for MMA? I know people are going to say "it doesn't give the BJJ guy long enough to set any thing up". But heres a tip for you guys, MMA is not BJJ. 2) Okami was terrible. Ring rust or not he had no plan b and showed no desire to change a losing formula. 3) So Cain gets a title shot. Without facing Herring, Nog, Mir, Couture, Gonzaga, Dos Santos, or the loser of Carwin vs Lesnar. It is OK you just bypass all of the top talent to get your title shot, makes perfect sense considering the last 2 champions had a combined HW record of 3-3 over the last 8 years to get their title shots. Yep fitts in perfectly. Belts mean F#ck all now. How can you be champion of the world when you have faced 1 top 10 guy to get that status? you can't. 4) Overeem, Alverez are top 10 material and perhaps Marius too. We do want to see the best guys right?. 5) Sakuraba vs F.Shamrock could be good. 6) Kimbo Slice... oh you said mixed martial artist, oh well that counts him out. 1) Has ther ever been trialed 3 or 4 min rds for MMA? I know people are going to say “it doesn’t give the BJJ guy long enough to set any thing up”. But heres a tip for you guys, MMA is not BJJ.
2) Okami was terrible. Ring rust or not he had no plan b and showed no desire to change a losing formula.
3) So Cain gets a title shot. Without facing Herring, Nog, Mir, Couture, Gonzaga, Dos Santos, or the loser of Carwin vs Lesnar. It is OK you just bypass all of the top talent to get your title shot, makes perfect sense considering the last 2 champions had a combined HW record of 3-3 over the last 8 years to get their title shots. Yep fitts in perfectly.
Belts mean F#ck all now. How can you be champion of the world when you have faced 1 top 10 guy to get that status? you can’t.
4) Overeem, Alverez are top 10 material and perhaps Marius too. We do want to see the best guys right?.
5) Sakuraba vs F.Shamrock could be good.
6) Kimbo Slice… oh you said mixed martial artist, oh well that counts him out.

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]]> By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/30/grappling-with-iss-boo-es-jason-polley/comment-page-1/#comment-131569 Makington Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:09:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18370#comment-131569 <blockquote cite="comment-131558"> <strong><a href="#comment-131558" rel="nofollow">Pajamashark</a></strong>: Bruce Buffer: tailored gray suit, full head of fabulously sculpted gray hair, and the willingness to mispronounce”Steven” Bonnar’s name.Bonus- if you can do a Buffer 360 without spilling a full glass of beer, everyone around you has to give you all their candy.Tito Ortiz: white shirt with “Dana is my Bitch” on the front and “Run Forrest Run” on the back.Tiny shorts, bleached hair like half a tennis ball, and a better sex life then any man in the room.Brock Lesner: shove a bunch of couch cushions under a flesh colored shirt; draw on those horrible tattoos with a sharpie; punch anyone in the face who is drinking Bud Light.The Voices in Matt Mitrone’s Head: grow an underfed mustache that makes you look cool; have conversations with people that aren’t there; if people are in the room and you want to talk to them, write them a note instead. </blockquote> lmao, well played sir, well played.

Pajamashark: Bruce Buffer: tailored gray suit, full head of fabulously sculpted gray hair, and the willingness to mispronounce”Steven” Bonnar’s name.Bonus- if you can do a Buffer 360 without spilling a full glass of beer, everyone around you has to give you all their candy.Tito Ortiz: white shirt with “Dana is my Bitch” on the front and “Run Forrest Run” on the back.Tiny shorts, bleached hair like half a tennis ball, and a better sex life then any man in the room.Brock Lesner: shove a bunch of couch cushions under a flesh colored shirt; draw on those horrible tattoos with a sharpie; punch anyone in the face who is drinking Bud Light.The Voices in Matt Mitrone’s Head: grow an underfed mustache that makes you look cool; have conversations with people that aren’t there; if people are in the room and you want to talk to them, write them a note instead.

lmao, well played sir, well played.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/30/grappling-with-iss-boo-es-jason-polley/comment-page-1/#comment-131563 edub Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:37:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18370#comment-131563 Id like to see Che Mills in the UFC before Zaromskis. If it were anyone id have to pick Overeem. If that guy is not on steroids he'd be a bad matchup for anuone in the hw division. Anyone. Id like to see Che Mills in the UFC before Zaromskis.

If it were anyone id have to pick Overeem. If that guy is not on steroids he’d be a bad matchup for anuone in the hw division. Anyone.

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]]> By: sigmund http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/30/grappling-with-iss-boo-es-jason-polley/comment-page-1/#comment-131560 sigmund Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:07:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18370#comment-131560 I would like to see cain vs. dos santos for a shot at the title, i think both are pretty close while cain may be slightly ahead after his dismantling of rothwell. I think it it would definatly put things in black and white as to who is the true number one contender. 7 rounds is defniatly not necessary, thats just 2 more for peoples to give to his favorite fighter... I think and really always have thought okami is overrated, not sayin that sonnen didn't perform well that night. but I dont think either will be champ in the ufc. from dream i really like zaromskis, I would have said jacare/ mousasi before they moved over to strikeforce. and of course alvarez. scary halloween costume would be cheick congo from the ufc adds with the huge mouth. I was gonna go with rampage, but he's already goin as mr t. so a costume of a guy in a costume might not work out... I would like to see cain vs. dos santos for a shot at the title, i think both are pretty close while cain may be slightly ahead after his dismantling of rothwell. I think it it would definatly put things in black and white as to who is the true number one contender. 7 rounds is defniatly not necessary, thats just 2 more for peoples to give to his favorite fighter… I think and really always have thought okami is overrated, not sayin that sonnen didn’t perform well that night. but I dont think either will be champ in the ufc. from dream i really like zaromskis, I would have said jacare/ mousasi before they moved over to strikeforce. and of course alvarez. scary halloween costume would be cheick congo from the ufc adds with the huge mouth. I was gonna go with rampage, but he’s already goin as mr t. so a costume of a guy in a costume might not work out…

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]]> By: Pajamashark http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/30/grappling-with-iss-boo-es-jason-polley/comment-page-1/#comment-131558 Pajamashark Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:47:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18370#comment-131558 Bruce Buffer: tailored gray suit, full head of fabulously sculpted gray hair, and the willingness to mispronounce"Steven" Bonnar's name. Bonus- if you can do a Buffer 360 without spilling a full glass of beer, everyone around you has to give you all their candy. Tito Ortiz: white shirt with "Dana is my Bitch" on the front and "Run Forrest Run" on the back. Tiny shorts, bleached hair like half a tennis ball, and a better sex life then any man in the room. Brock Lesner: shove a bunch of couch cushions under a flesh colored shirt; draw on those horrible tattoos with a sharpie; punch anyone in the face who is drinking Bud Light. The Voices in Matt Mitrone's Head: grow an underfed mustache that makes you look cool; have conversations with people that aren't there; if people are in the room and you want to talk to them, write them a note instead. Bruce Buffer: tailored gray suit, full head of fabulously sculpted gray hair, and the willingness to mispronounce”Steven” Bonnar’s name. Bonus- if you can do a Buffer 360 without spilling a full glass of beer, everyone around you has to give you all their candy.

Tito Ortiz: white shirt with “Dana is my Bitch” on the front and “Run Forrest Run” on the back. Tiny shorts, bleached hair like half a tennis ball, and a better sex life then any man in the room.

Brock Lesner: shove a bunch of couch cushions under a flesh colored shirt; draw on those horrible tattoos with a sharpie; punch anyone in the face who is drinking Bud Light.

The Voices in Matt Mitrone’s Head: grow an underfed mustache that makes you look cool; have conversations with people that aren’t there; if people are in the room and you want to talk to them, write them a note instead.

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]]> By: Brendhan Conlan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/30/grappling-with-iss-boo-es-jason-polley/comment-page-1/#comment-131556 Brendhan Conlan Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:15:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18370#comment-131556 No, because you can still see through sunglasses while painting the lenses black would more accurately simulate actual blindness. No, because you can still see through sunglasses while painting the lenses black would more accurately simulate actual blindness.

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]]> By: HonorableAggression http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/30/grappling-with-iss-boo-es-jason-polley/comment-page-1/#comment-131548 HonorableAggression Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:23:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18370#comment-131548 Interesting points, I would definitely have to say no to 7-rounders, I've never seen a fight that wasn't resolved after 5, including rua/machida. Cain definitely deserves a title shot. The division isnt deep enough to have anyone else who deserves it more than him or Carwin. On Okami, I think its a little of both, he looked rusty but then again he never looks too good against an opponent who takes him out of his tried and tested game plan. I agree on Overeem from Dream, as long as he isnt relying on anything that wouldnt fly this side of the ocean for those muscles. Sakuraba should keep going, but I'd work on that getting punched 50 times in the face while working a sub gameplan. Best MMA Costume? I don't know, but conlan, couldn't you just get sunglasses instead of painting glasses black? lol Interesting points, I would definitely have to say no to 7-rounders, I’ve never seen a fight that wasn’t resolved after 5, including rua/machida.
Cain definitely deserves a title shot. The division isnt deep enough to have anyone else who deserves it more than him or Carwin.
On Okami, I think its a little of both, he looked rusty but then again he never looks too good against an opponent who takes him out of his tried and tested game plan.
I agree on Overeem from Dream, as long as he isnt relying on anything that wouldnt fly this side of the ocean for those muscles.
Sakuraba should keep going, but I’d work on that getting punched 50 times in the face while working a sub gameplan.
Best MMA Costume? I don’t know, but conlan, couldn’t you just get sunglasses instead of painting glasses black? lol

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/30/grappling-with-iss-boo-es-jason-polley/comment-page-1/#comment-131534 fanoftna33 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:08:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18370#comment-131534 No way title fights go 2 extra rounds to help decide the winner. I would like to see, in title fights on.y, the first round being 10 min, the 3 more 5 min rounds Okami looked bad and rust had to play some factor but really Sonnen looked great, and really brought his a game. Hopefully the loss to Maia was a wake up call for him. As much as I would like to see Cain fight another top 3 HW he has more than earned a title fight by ufc standards( hell they gave one to brock after going 1-1) Alverez would be the best fighter from Dream 12 imo. He is tough, has legit ko power , and very solid wrestling. Overeem probably wouldnt fair well against ufc caliber fighters. Sakuraba has done more than enough to cement his legacy in MMA. from coming in and beating Conan(after losing to him in the same tournament) to beating most of the Gracie fighters. He will always be welcome on any fight card but realistically is no longer a title contender, much like Liddell, he can still be around for good fights but they have to be picked carefully. No way title fights go 2 extra rounds to help decide the winner. I would like to see, in title fights on.y, the first round being 10 min, the 3 more 5 min rounds
Okami looked bad and rust had to play some factor but really Sonnen looked great, and really brought his a game. Hopefully the loss to Maia was a wake up call for him.
As much as I would like to see Cain fight another top 3 HW he has more than earned a title fight by ufc standards( hell they gave one to brock after going 1-1)
Alverez would be the best fighter from Dream 12 imo. He is tough, has legit ko power , and very solid wrestling. Overeem probably wouldnt fair well against ufc caliber fighters.
Sakuraba has done more than enough to cement his legacy in MMA. from coming in and beating Conan(after losing to him in the same tournament) to beating most of the Gracie fighters. He will always be welcome on any fight card but realistically is no longer a title contender, much like Liddell, he can still be around for good fights but they have to be picked carefully.

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]]> By: dpk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/30/grappling-with-iss-boo-es-jason-polley/comment-page-1/#comment-131533 dpk Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:04:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18370#comment-131533 I think Velasquez v Nog around late Jan/Feb would be good. The winner of that could fight the winner of Lesnar and Carwin sometime around May-July. I'd also like the see the Dos Santos v Gonzaga (I pick Dos Santos), and Mir v Kongo (I pick Mir) winners match up in the future. If Dos Santos could get by those fights, he would be deserving of a title shot by the end of next year. Overeem would be the most interesting guy off of Dream 12 to come to UFC just because he would be a top tier HW to add depth to UFC's shallowest division, even though, Eddie Alverez would help settle the debate of how the LWs fighting in Japan should be ranked compared with the LWs in UFC. A first match against Joe Steveson/Kenflo/Maynard would be a must see event. Not just no, but Hell no to 7 round title fights. Guys would be so gassed by that point that those would be painful to watch. Okami has always been a little overrated by some fans, I wasn't surprised to see Sonnen handle him. He is a top 15 MW, but will never be a champ or even fight for the title IMO. Top of the line gate keeper though. I think Velasquez v Nog around late Jan/Feb would be good. The winner of that could fight the winner of Lesnar and Carwin sometime around May-July. I’d also like the see the Dos Santos v Gonzaga (I pick Dos Santos), and Mir v Kongo (I pick Mir) winners match up in the future. If Dos Santos could get by those fights, he would be deserving of a title shot by the end of next year.

Overeem would be the most interesting guy off of Dream 12 to come to UFC just because he would be a top tier HW to add depth to UFC’s shallowest division, even though, Eddie Alverez would help settle the debate of how the LWs fighting in Japan should be ranked compared with the LWs in UFC. A first match against Joe Steveson/Kenflo/Maynard would be a must see event.

Not just no, but Hell no to 7 round title fights. Guys would be so gassed by that point that those would be painful to watch.

Okami has always been a little overrated by some fans, I wasn’t surprised to see Sonnen handle him. He is a top 15 MW, but will never be a champ or even fight for the title IMO. Top of the line gate keeper though.

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