Comments on: Exclusive: Josh Neer released by UFC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 23:36:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: CMT http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131773 CMT Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:40:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131773 What, Forrest lost to Tito and was cut from the UFC?? Say it ain't so! Oh yeah, he just ran out of the ring, he will be back. What, Forrest lost to Tito and was cut from the UFC?? Say it ain’t so! Oh yeah, he just ran out of the ring, he will be back.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131757 edub Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:26:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131757 Tibau is an absolute Giant for LW. I would venture to say he was bigger than 185 in that fight Jstew. He looked a good 15 lbs bigger than neer who was probably at least 170 by fight time. I dont have an argument to save Neer. I always brings it when he fights, but it almost seems like his wrestling has deteriorated in his latest ufc stint. Id say 1 or 2 wins and he gets back in but only if he can show some type of improvement in td defense. The gatekeeper is a revolving position so there will be someone there to take his spot. As for next up for Tibau put him in with someone like Pellegrino or miller and you'll see him get outted again as nothing more than a prospect. Tibau is an absolute Giant for LW. I would venture to say he was bigger than 185 in that fight Jstew. He looked a good 15 lbs bigger than neer who was probably at least 170 by fight time.

I dont have an argument to save Neer. I always brings it when he fights, but it almost seems like his wrestling has deteriorated in his latest ufc stint. Id say 1 or 2 wins and he gets back in but only if he can show some type of improvement in td defense. The gatekeeper is a revolving position so there will be someone there to take his spot.

As for next up for Tibau put him in with someone like Pellegrino or miller and you’ll see him get outted again as nothing more than a prospect.

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131752 Jstew3785 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:45:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131752 Tibau looked like a LHW man. He is the largest lightweight I've ever seen. I guarantee you he was at least 180-185lbs when he rehydrated. Tibau looked like a LHW man. He is the largest lightweight I’ve ever seen. I guarantee you he was at least 180-185lbs when he rehydrated.

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]]> By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131749 Makington Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:30:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131749 Neer missed weight too, so you know. Tibau was also landing some of the most vicious take downs I've seen in a while. I thought he might have broken Neer's neck during the first one. Neer missed weight too, so you know. Tibau was also landing some of the most vicious take downs I’ve seen in a while. I thought he might have broken Neer’s neck during the first one.

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]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131746 Angry Mike Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:17:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131746 I've got a real problem with cutting Neer after his loss to Tibau. Tibau couldn't make weight, and by the time of the fight he'd rehydrated. By the looks of him, he was closer to 170 than 155. Tibau took Neer down repeatedly but didn't inflict any damage because Neer was defending pretty well from his guard. When they were standing I thought Neer was winning the striking exchanges. Tough break for Neer. I hope he's back soon. I’ve got a real problem with cutting Neer after his loss to Tibau. Tibau couldn’t make weight, and by the time of the fight he’d rehydrated. By the looks of him, he was closer to 170 than 155. Tibau took Neer down repeatedly but didn’t inflict any damage because Neer was defending pretty well from his guard. When they were standing I thought Neer was winning the striking exchanges. Tough break for Neer. I hope he’s back soon.

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]]> By: BiG BaD BuLL http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131713 BiG BaD BuLL Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:54:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131713 look back at when stephan bonnar fought johnny bones. when bonnar was walking back to the locker rooms with dana, stephan kept apologizing and saying how physically strong jones was. dana slapped him on the back and said "don't worry. you started this with me; you're not going anywhere. i agree with submit and capt... some fighters will simply never be cut. look back at when stephan bonnar fought johnny bones. when bonnar was walking back to the locker rooms with dana, stephan kept apologizing and saying how physically strong jones was. dana slapped him on the back and said “don’t worry. you started this with me; you’re not going anywhere. i agree with submit and capt… some fighters will simply never be cut.

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]]> By: submit662266 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131640 submit662266 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:38:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131640 I agree cap. If a fighter sells ppv, they can lose quite a bit and not be released. Forrest, Tito, W. Silva, Chuck, and even Couture will never be cut. UFC is first and foremost a business. We will be seeing a fighter as bad as Kimbo for some time to come, but Neer will need to find work elsewhere. I agree cap. If a fighter sells ppv, they can lose quite a bit and not be released. Forrest, Tito, W. Silva, Chuck, and even Couture will never be cut.

UFC is first and foremost a business. We will be seeing a fighter as bad as Kimbo for some time to come, but Neer will need to find work elsewhere.

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]]> By: captchaos http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131624 captchaos Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:10:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131624 I'm a 1st time poster... Here we go! Neer is a very very tough guy and if there were no rounds and time limits he would skyrocket up my ladder in the rankings. Unfortunately there are. I personally like watching him cause he always brings it but he's never gonna be a top contender. He doesn;'t have the skill, athleticism, or strength. Someone said "would they cut Forrest after 3 losses?" those 2 fighters are in a different league. Forrest is 1 of the most popular and the former champ. Neer is a journeyman fighter with little name recognition to the casual fan. That division uis stacked with fighters. Let's make room for others... PS... I am excited to be a part of the FiveOuncesofPain group!!!!!!!!!!! I’m a 1st time poster… Here we go! Neer is a very very tough guy and if there were no rounds and time limits he would skyrocket up my ladder in the rankings. Unfortunately there are. I personally like watching him cause he always brings it but he’s never gonna be a top contender. He doesn;’t have the skill, athleticism, or strength. Someone said “would they cut Forrest after 3 losses?” those 2 fighters are in a different league. Forrest is 1 of the most popular and the former champ. Neer is a journeyman fighter with little name recognition to the casual fan. That division uis stacked with fighters. Let’s make room for others…

PS… I am excited to be a part of the FiveOuncesofPain group!!!!!!!!!!!

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]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131623 hindsightufuk Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:27:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131623 yes i have some time on my hands, its halloween and all the cunt kids on my estate keep chucking shit at my house yes i have some time on my hands, its halloween and all the cunt kids on my estate keep chucking shit at my house

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]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131622 hindsightufuk Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:26:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131622 just to further annoy me i looked at all the recent wages from UFC 104. Gleison Tibau 19000 great submission grappler but shit boring to watch (ufc 6-4) Yoshiyuki Yoshida 12000 maybe the smallest WW in the UFC? )ufc 2-2) Eric Schafer 13000 again a really solid submission grappler, but mostly shit bornnig to watch (ufc 5-3) Rob Kimmons 9000 i actually dont have anything to say about him (ufc 1-2) Razak Al-Hassan 3000 (still too much for this mutt) learn to tap, fuck him (ufc 0-2) Chase Gormley 10000 i dont know enough about him other than he's ugly, but i'm guessing he gets to lose once more in the UFC before he goes (0-1) so my point, cut all the above, keeo Josh, you've saved some money. just to further annoy me i looked at all the recent wages from UFC 104.
Gleison Tibau 19000
great submission grappler but shit boring to watch (ufc 6-4)
Yoshiyuki Yoshida 12000
maybe the smallest WW in the UFC? )ufc 2-2)
Eric Schafer 13000
again a really solid submission grappler, but mostly shit bornnig to watch (ufc 5-3)
Rob Kimmons 9000
i actually dont have anything to say about him (ufc 1-2)
Razak Al-Hassan 3000 (still too much for this mutt)
learn to tap, fuck him (ufc 0-2)
Chase Gormley 10000
i dont know enough about him other than he’s ugly, but i’m guessing he gets to lose once more in the UFC before he goes (0-1)

so my point, cut all the above, keeo Josh, you’ve saved some money.

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]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131621 hindsightufuk Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:11:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131621 i meant having an EX UFCer i meant having an EX UFCer

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]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131620 hindsightufuk Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:10:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131620 i can understand it but i'm still gutted. I always root for Josh in a fight and love to watch him fight. While you may think his fight against Pellegrino was boring, it shows how a fighter always has a chance. Josh couldnt stop the take downs, was on his back for three rounds, and in the last 20 seconds dropped Pellegrino with some nice elbows and almost won the fight. Personally i would much, much, much rather see the UFC stop giving contracts to most of the recent utter shite TUF cast offs (admit it they are), the ones who couldnt even make it to the fucking semis let alone the finals, the ones the UFC continue to promote just because there name has become popular for looking like a cunt on TV, and keep guys like Josh & Tamdan who may never ever be contenders but given the right match ups are always worth watching. Shit treat him like Lytle, just give him fights that are guarenteed to entertain. This has really bugged me. I hope Strikeforce or Dream pick him straight up, tho i have a feeling he will be in some low budget local shows who can only promote their events by having an UFCer as the main event i can understand it but i’m still gutted. I always root for Josh in a fight and love to watch him fight. While you may think his fight against Pellegrino was boring, it shows how a fighter always has a chance. Josh couldnt stop the take downs, was on his back for three rounds, and in the last 20 seconds dropped Pellegrino with some nice elbows and almost won the fight.

Personally i would much, much, much rather see the UFC stop giving contracts to most of the recent utter shite TUF cast offs (admit it they are), the ones who couldnt even make it to the fucking semis let alone the finals, the ones the UFC continue to promote just because there name has become popular for looking like a cunt on TV, and keep guys like Josh & Tamdan who may never ever be contenders but given the right match ups are always worth watching. Shit treat him like Lytle, just give him fights that are guarenteed to entertain.

This has really bugged me. I hope Strikeforce or Dream pick him straight up, tho i have a feeling he will be in some low budget local shows who can only promote their events by having an UFCer as the main event

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131616 Jstew3785 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:41:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131616 All you ever hear is how Josh Neer doesn't have boring fights. Well, his last 2 have been boring fights. I would hardly call his fight with Tibau or Pellegrino FOTN material. His last 2 fights were mirror images of each other, you think he'd have learned some takedown defense. He has been in quite a few entertaining fights.... but not lately. All you ever hear is how Josh Neer doesn’t have boring fights. Well, his last 2 have been boring fights. I would hardly call his fight with Tibau or Pellegrino FOTN material. His last 2 fights were mirror images of each other, you think he’d have learned some takedown defense. He has been in quite a few entertaining fights…. but not lately.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131614 Rich S. Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:08:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131614 It's different when someone gets cut after 2 or 3 knockout or submission losses.. But Neer's fights always have FOTN potential, and when he loses, he never actually gets finished.. I'm sure he'll have a great time in another promotion.. It’s different when someone gets cut after 2 or 3 knockout or submission losses..

But Neer’s fights always have FOTN potential, and when he loses, he never actually gets finished..

I’m sure he’ll have a great time in another promotion..

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]]> By: Brendhan Conlan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131611 Brendhan Conlan Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:20:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131611 He'll make a great addition to the Strikeforce roster. He’ll make a great addition to the Strikeforce roster.

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]]> By: xtreme_machine http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131609 xtreme_machine Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:31:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131609 man that sux man that sux

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]]> By: bigbadjohn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131608 bigbadjohn Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:21:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131608 josh neer is to takedown defense as an ostrich is to flying. josh neer is to takedown defense as an ostrich is to flying.

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]]> By: dpk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131606 dpk Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:33:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131606 I'm not surprised by this move, UFC has over 50 fighters in the LW division, when you lose 3 of 4 your job is going to be in danger no matter how exciting you are. Another reason UFC lets solid veterans like Neer and Gurgle go is that they can then go to other organizations and essentially serve as gatekeepers, just on someone else's payroll. If they fight and beat, or get beat by some up and coming prospects, then UFC knows exactly what that prospect is about. I'm sure he won't be out of work long, he would be attractive to Strikeforce, Dream, or any regional independent organization. He is probably also on the short list of last minute replacements in case someone suffers an injury. I’m not surprised by this move, UFC has over 50 fighters in the LW division, when you lose 3 of 4 your job is going to be in danger no matter how exciting you are. Another reason UFC lets solid veterans like Neer and Gurgle go is that they can then go to other organizations and essentially serve as gatekeepers, just on someone else’s payroll. If they fight and beat, or get beat by some up and coming prospects, then UFC knows exactly what that prospect is about. I’m sure he won’t be out of work long, he would be attractive to Strikeforce, Dream, or any regional independent organization. He is probably also on the short list of last minute replacements in case someone suffers an injury.

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]]> By: HonorableAggression http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131605 HonorableAggression Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:33:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131605 Honestly, I'll always put my money up to watch neer fight, there's plenty on the ufc roster I can't say that about consistently, so to me, its a loss for the ufc and the fans. Honestly, I’ll always put my money up to watch neer fight, there’s plenty on the ufc roster I can’t say that about consistently, so to me, its a loss for the ufc and the fans.

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]]> By: Paulo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/10/31/exclusive-josh-neer-released-by-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-131603 Paulo Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:16:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18395#comment-131603 It's a shame that they cut Neer. The dude was really scrappy, brought it every time, and ALWAYS gave the fans an amazing fight. I would rather they have cut Gleison Tibau with his win rather then Neer with his loss. Tibau did nothing that fight except get the takedown and do nothing with it. Neer has a nasty and active butterfly guard and doesn't stop fighting from the opening bell to the final bell. Neer should go to Japan where he'll probably be more liked. the Japanese promotions have it right. They care more about an exciting fight then they do about a win/loss record. It’s a shame that they cut Neer. The dude was really scrappy, brought it every time, and ALWAYS gave the fans an amazing fight. I would rather they have cut Gleison Tibau with his win rather then Neer with his loss. Tibau did nothing that fight except get the takedown and do nothing with it. Neer has a nasty and active butterfly guard and doesn’t stop fighting from the opening bell to the final bell. Neer should go to Japan where he’ll probably be more liked. the Japanese promotions have it right. They care more about an exciting fight then they do about a win/loss record.

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