GassedOut: My thinking on weight classes is that we don’t need more of them. There are always going to be guys that don’t really fit well into a weight class. So what do we do? If we create more weight classes, it’s kind of a slippery slope, and we could end up like boxing. Just a thought, for what it’s worth.

Thatd be the biggest problem. The biggest fight thats gonna happen this year isnt even being fouhgt at a legitimate championship weight class. Manny Pacquiao vs Miguel Cotto is being contested for the welterweight(147) champioship belt, but it is being fought at 145(because for all the hoopla about manny moving up in weight he still needs his opponents to suck themselves as dry as possible.) How funny would it be if Jose Aldo wanted to move up in weight to challenge BJ Penn for the lw title but he made a stipulation in the contract that said the fight has to be contested at 151lbs.

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Heavyweight : 221+
Cruiserweight: 220
Light Heavyweight : 205
Middleweight : 190
Welterweight : 175
Lightweight : 160
Featherweight : 150
Bantamweight : 140

Now every higher weight division is only 15lbs apart. All lower weight divisions would be 10 punds apart. Now Kimbo can fight at Cruiserweight and get pummeled by Couture, Vera, Griffin etc. You get those guys to move up in a division and now Rich Franklin has a home at 205. I wouldnt raise cruiserweight higher because it would dillute some of the talent in the heavyweight division.

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xtreme_machine: DANA you sir are a hypocriteyou questioned Elite XC for the special treatment they gave Kimbo and now you are doing the same
i know it is just business but it really hurts your credibility i am now 100% on Fedor and M1 Global’s side

Apples to oranges my friend. UFC has not claimed that Kimbo is the future of mma, Kimbo is not the face of their org, Kimbo did not fight on the biggest card in UFC history. Kimbo was of course going to get some special treatment in the TUF house. He’s as big of a house hold name as they’re ever going to get on TUF as a non coach (and in most cases even then), any agent in the world would make sure to get something out of it.

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Also, We all know this season of TUF has been disappointing, I honestly think there are only maybe 2 or 3 fighters from the whole show capable of getting wins against actual UFC heavyweights.

Finally, I have no problem with catchweight fights, but what division would Kimbo fight in after this one???

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Just wanted to add one thing…

Some of the comments seem to reflect that the UFC is doing this as a favour to Kimbo, but I think this is Dana’s ultimate revenge. This fight is a blessing for Houston Alexander, who has no ground game, but is dynamite on his feet. I think he destroy’s Kimbo. I don’t want to see Kimbo fight someone with a ground game, we know what would happen… but watching him get taken apart on his feet by a popular, but unskilled UFC fighter… I’m looking forward to it!

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231+ Super Heavy weight
206 – 230 Heavy
186 – 205 Light Heavy

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Did Kimbo actually name one of his sons Kevlar?

If so he is an even bigger moron then I thought.

On the catch weight issue, as far as it pertains to kimbo who cares its not a real fight just a last chance money grab of the bitch. As for real fighters I dont have a problem with a cruiser weight division If there are enough quality fighters to make it viable but not until such time. Having a “super fight” once in awhile is ok at a catch weight provided it is a fight that will or should be evenly matched but not a regular occurance.

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I’d much rather see Bantamweights and Featherweights in the UFC than see a 195 lb or 235 lb division. Guys like St. Pierre and Thiago Alves cut a ton of weight to make 170. There’s no reason that the lighter Heavyweights couldn’t do the same.

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DANA you sir are a hypocrite

you questioned Elite XC for the special treatment they gave Kimbo

and now you are doing the same

i know it is just business but it really hurts your credibility

i am now 100% on Fedor and M1 Global’s side

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edub: 1. I think it is very unfair, and I thought he wouldnt get special treatment. But looking back I think we all should have realized he would have special stipulations going into the house. I just saw the beginning of TUF the other day, and when Roy said “I thought I was the special announcement” I about died. Roy is the guy who got smashed Arlovski (if even known) to casual fans. Not many people watched the IFL thats why theyre no longer around. I guess it could be the way they are editin the show but Roy’s arrogance has been the big surprise of the show to me. Its gonna be the same way with his “career” in the UFC. He is gonna get match ups that are favorable to his style. I got no problem with matchup. Although I favor technical battles over brawls(I was loving the Almeida vs Fitch matchup before it scrapped), slugfests are always fun to watch. I could watch Fyre vs. Takayama everyday.2. I think the weight divisions are fine. Does anyone realize how small the hw divsion would be if they added a 225 lb divsion. Who would fight in it? Carwin, Lesnar, Hague, Duffee. I mean if guys wo are big enough to walk around at 240 plus can make 205(Forrest griffin), then there is no need for 225. If you wanna do catch weight fights there fine, but the division isnt needed. Neither is 195.

Yeah…. what he said. Spot on

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Until proven wrong they’re going to find another un-skilled fighter after this fight, and if things go their way they’ll feed him to Brock for a massive ppv score. Tim Hague would be far too dangerous for Kimbo as he at least has shown he has a submission game, and we know Kimbo is helpless on the ground.

I have nothing against Kimbo as a person, he seems like a decent guy, if you watch him closely he has one asset and that’s a giant bomb of a right hand. Unfortunately he has nothing else at all so his chances of learning much at this stage are zero.

The UFC knows this and they have to cash in on him now.

All I ask is next time someone rips another organization for propping up fighters they should think about this as a prime example, and there are other examples as well.

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that aside, i agree that he’s getting special treatment. catch weight bouts can be interesting if it’s two champions against one another, and i can understand the whole easing someone into a weight class (wanderlei silva and vitor), but this fight is only a means of getting ratings and kinda bothers me…

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I like the catch weight fights, but the questions in my mind are:
1) Are there good fighters out there who have a tough time fitting into the current weight classes (Yes, I think)
2) Would adding a couple of classes (and titles) to the mix help the sport by aiding to better match up fighters in competative fights (again, I think yes).

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This is a very overly dramatic article. Catch-weight fights happen all of the time, this isn’t something to freak out over, especially when two had a very good reason for being made (Silva and Belfort’s transition to MW). In Kimbo’s case, who cares? It’s two fighters who will never come close to being in contention or even being gate keepers, it’s just a slug fest type of fight for the fans to enjoy.

On a side note the out cry for a weight class between LHW and HW is amazing. No one cared about Brock’s size difference when he showed up, no one cared when Brock lost to Mir, now that he has some wins against credible guys everyone wants to cage him off in his own division that will have maybe at most 4-5 guys who are interested and the only two that I would consider contenders for that title would be Carwin and Brock.

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