Comments on: Trading Punches: “Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers” http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 27 May 2012 00:17:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132283 Makington Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:58:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132283 Well actually, yes, I do consider all 3 fighters tougher than him. You must really like Sokoudjou, because he is nothing special as a fighter. He is like Kimbo if he dropped to 205 and grew dreads. Great power and good boxing, but sub par at everything else. Poor cardio compiled with a weak ground game and average take down defense make it an absolutely terrible match up for Sokoudjou. Well actually, yes, I do consider all 3 fighters tougher than him. You must really like Sokoudjou, because he is nothing special as a fighter. He is like Kimbo if he dropped to 205 and grew dreads. Great power and good boxing, but sub par at everything else. Poor cardio compiled with a weak ground game and average take down defense make it an absolutely terrible match up for Sokoudjou.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132271 edub Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:25:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132271 <blockquote cite="comment-132250"> <strong><a href="#comment-132250" rel="nofollow">Makington</a></strong>: but Gegard has been in the ring with much tougher competition than him </blockquote> Like who denis Kang, Jacare, Manhoef? I dont think any of them are as tough as a fight as Sokoudjou is purely on Size. Babablu is better but I wouldnt classify him as much tougher competition than Sokoudjou.

Makington: but Gegard has been in the ring with much tougher competition than him

Like who denis Kang, Jacare, Manhoef? I dont think any of them are as tough as a fight as Sokoudjou is purely on Size. Babablu is better but I wouldnt classify him as much tougher competition than Sokoudjou.

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]]> By: neijia http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132263 neijia Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:06:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132263 I think even Fedor said Fujita is the only one who's really hit him hard. Rogers has the power but Fedor's standup and "elusiveness" are never really mentioned - overshadowed by his gnp/subs. I think even Fedor said Fujita is the only one who’s really hit him hard. Rogers has the power but Fedor’s standup and “elusiveness” are never really mentioned – overshadowed by his gnp/subs.

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]]> By: s00nertp http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132260 s00nertp Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:59:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132260 "The guy that’s going to beat Fedor isn’t going to be a guy there’s a ton of tape on, and the odds of Emelianenko losing a fight on the ground are slim. No, in my opinion the guy that will end up defeating Fedor will be the guy that’s totally not supposed to, but punches like a truck; sorta like “Grim”" I agree, like Fujita, one of the few guys who almost knocked out Fedor and Mark Hunt. In my opinion, those two were the closest to winning of any so far. “The guy that’s going to beat Fedor isn’t going to be a guy there’s a ton of tape on, and the odds of
Emelianenko losing a fight on the ground are slim. No, in my opinion the guy that will end up defeating Fedor will be the guy that’s totally not supposed to, but punches like a truck; sorta like “Grim””

I agree, like Fujita, one of the few guys who almost knocked out Fedor and Mark Hunt. In my opinion, those two were the closest to winning of any so far.

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]]> By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132250 Makington Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:30:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132250 The reason he was taking it to Cane was because Cane was smart enough to see how quickly Sokoudjou was going to gas himself. He basically just tucked his chin, weathered the storm, and took and extremely easy KO. I thought it was sheer intelligence on Cane's part. Sokoudjou was loading 150% power with each shot. I give Sokoudjou a better chance than some, but Gegard has been in the ring with much tougher competition than him, and won in very convincing fashion. The reason he was taking it to Cane was because Cane was smart enough to see how quickly Sokoudjou was going to gas himself. He basically just tucked his chin, weathered the storm, and took and extremely easy KO. I thought it was sheer intelligence on Cane’s part. Sokoudjou was loading 150% power with each shot. I give Sokoudjou a better chance than some, but Gegard has been in the ring with much tougher competition than him, and won in very convincing fashion.

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]]> By: Bullylover http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132239 Bullylover Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:43:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132239 "why does the banner link to this thread have Brett with a tattoo of Zuluzinho on his arm? He doesnt really have that tat does he? or am i missing something?" sorry push the wrong button on my keyboard. I was wondering the same thing hindsight.I don't remember that tattoo in rogers last fight. I think sokodjou has a btter chance than most people think the guy was putting a beating on luis cane before he got caugh,he does have a suspect chin though. I'm a go with rogers via ko, shields via sub,mousasi via tko,werdum via sub, and coenen via ud. “why does the banner link to this thread have Brett with a tattoo of Zuluzinho on his arm?

He doesnt really have that tat does he? or am i missing something?” sorry push the wrong button on my keyboard. I was wondering the same thing hindsight.I don’t remember that tattoo in rogers last fight. I think sokodjou has a btter chance than most people think the guy was putting a beating on luis cane before he got caugh,he does have a suspect chin though. I’m a go with rogers via ko, shields via sub,mousasi via tko,werdum via sub, and coenen via ud.

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]]> By: Bullylover http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132238 Bullylover Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:37:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132238 "why does the banner link to this thread have Brett with a tattoo of Zuluzinho on his arm? He doesnt really have that tat does he? or am i missing something?" “why does the banner link to this thread have Brett with a tattoo of Zuluzinho on his arm?

He doesnt really have that tat does he? or am i missing something?”

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]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132218 hindsightufuk Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:43:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132218 why does the banner link to this thread have Brett with a tattoo of Zuluzinho on his arm? He doesnt really have that tat does he? or am i missing something? why does the banner link to this thread have Brett with a tattoo of Zuluzinho on his arm?

He doesnt really have that tat does he? or am i missing something?

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132210 fanoftna33 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:31:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132210 Silva has one chance and that is by fluke ko. Werdum will not be caught by the much slower Bigfoot. Silva has one chance and that is by fluke ko. Werdum will not be caught by the much slower Bigfoot.

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]]> By: PlagueAngel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132202 PlagueAngel Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:44:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132202 Great card and I hope this works out for Strikeforce. I hope Fedor and his "company" doesn't bankrupt another fighting organization. Sokoudjou by TKO Edub? No way man, Mousasi is the real deal and he will find a way to get the African to the ground or he will just knock him out. I do however agree that Silva will smash Werdum. I'm back baby and I'm loving every single second of it! Great card and I hope this works out for Strikeforce. I hope Fedor and his “company” doesn’t bankrupt another fighting organization. Sokoudjou by TKO Edub? No way man, Mousasi is the real deal and he will find a way to get the African to the ground or he will just knock him out. I do however agree that Silva will smash Werdum. I’m back baby and I’m loving every single second of it!

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132193 edub Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:14:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132193 Fedor via armbar: Fedor catches Brett during an exchange, takes him down, passes to mount, taps the right joystick and takes his arm home to Russia. Shields via plodding decision: I m rooting for mayhem here but I think Shields takes this one on just having better wrestling. I dont think itll get stopped and I think the boos will rain down more than once from the audience in this fight(although I think itll be a great technical battle on the ground). Hope im wrong and Miller gets the tko but I dont think itll happen. Sokoudjou by tko: Yea you saw that right. I think Mousasi comes in and tries to trade too early with Soko and gets rocked and put to sleep. Soko leaves the victor but without the championship belt. Silva via tko: This will be Silvas coming out party and all his hard work at ATT will pay off. The guy trains with great fighters on the ground every day, and I know Werdum is prolly the best in the world I just dont think he'll be able to get him there. Werdum has been getting caught a lot in previous fights, and I think thatll be his undoing in this matchup. Coenen via being bigger: I think this matchup well be a really hard one for Modafferi in the fact that Coenen doesnt have to cut as much for this fight. I dont think itll get stopped because Modafferi is a machine and I hope SF can put together a solid womens 135lb division after this fight. Maybe bring in Larosa. In the end Im rooting for Rogers, Mayhem, Mousasi, Silva, and Modafferi. BUT I think Fedor, Shields, Sokoudjou, Silva, and Coenan are going to come away with the victories. Fedor via armbar: Fedor catches Brett during an exchange, takes him down, passes to mount, taps the right joystick and takes his arm home to Russia.

Shields via plodding decision: I m rooting for mayhem here but I think Shields takes this one on just having better wrestling. I dont think itll get stopped and I think the boos will rain down more
than once from the audience in this fight(although I think itll be a great technical battle on the ground). Hope im wrong and Miller gets the tko but I dont think itll happen.

Sokoudjou by tko: Yea you saw that right. I think Mousasi comes in and tries to trade too early with Soko and gets rocked and put to sleep. Soko leaves the victor but without the championship belt.

Silva via tko: This will be Silvas coming out party and all his hard work at ATT will pay off. The guy trains with great fighters on the ground every day, and I know Werdum is prolly the best in the world I just dont think he’ll be able to get him there. Werdum has been getting caught a lot in previous fights, and I think thatll be his undoing in this matchup.

Coenen via being bigger: I think this matchup well be a really hard one for Modafferi in the fact that Coenen doesnt have to cut as much for this fight. I dont think itll get stopped because Modafferi is a machine and I hope SF can put together a solid womens 135lb division after this fight. Maybe bring in Larosa.

In the end Im rooting for Rogers, Mayhem, Mousasi, Silva, and Modafferi. BUT I think Fedor, Shields, Sokoudjou, Silva, and Coenan are going to come away with the victories.

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]]> By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132191 Makington Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:09:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132191 Fedor: sub round 1. Jason Miller: TKO round 3 Gegard: TKO round 1 Werdum: Decision Coenen: Decision Fedor: sub round 1.
Jason Miller: TKO round 3
Gegard: TKO round 1
Werdum: Decision
Coenen: Decision

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132185 fanoftna33 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:32:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132185 Rogers would knock Sylvias head into the next row. Also people need to remember Rogers does not have to get used to fighting in a cage, I belive this if Fedors first fight in one, and historically the transition from ring to cage isnt all that easy. Rogers would knock Sylvias head into the next row.
Also people need to remember Rogers does not have to get used to fighting in a cage, I belive this if Fedors first fight in one, and historically the transition from ring to cage isnt all that easy.

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]]> By: Dachman http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132176 Dachman Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:47:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132176 I have a feeling after the Fedor/Rogers fight we are all going to say "Why did we think Rogers would ever have a chance?" I think Fedor is going to go out drag him to the ground, drop those crazy bombs that he does in his GNP. Rogers is going to get sloppy and either give up his back or arm and it will be over in Round 1. Not that Rogers couldnt get that perfect shot because he could drop anyone with the perfect shot, I just dont think Fedor will give it to him. Fedor never looks to give long flashy fights he wants to win and fast.Fedor fights like his wife is in labor and he has to get to the hospital. Think about this, how would Rogers do against Tim Sylvia does anyone really think he would just walk through him knowing all of the battles he has been through? So what makes us think that outside of a perfect punch that he would otherwise have a chance. I have a feeling after the Fedor/Rogers fight we are all going to say “Why did we think Rogers would ever have a chance?” I think Fedor is going to go out drag him to the ground, drop those crazy bombs that he does in his GNP. Rogers is going to get sloppy and either give up his back or arm and it will be over in Round 1. Not that Rogers couldnt get that perfect shot because he could drop anyone with the perfect shot, I just dont think Fedor will give it to him. Fedor never looks to give long flashy fights he wants to win and fast.Fedor fights like his wife is in labor and he has to get to the hospital.
Think about this, how would Rogers do against Tim Sylvia does anyone really think he would just walk through him knowing all of the battles he has been through? So what makes us think that outside of a perfect punch that he would otherwise have a chance.

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]]> By: Pajamashark http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132175 Pajamashark Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:43:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132175 The clear winners: Strikeforce, CBS, EA, MMA as a legit sport supporters, and the fans who appreciate good live fights for free.

The clear winners: Strikeforce, CBS, EA, MMA as a legit sport supporters, and the fans who appreciate good live fights for free.

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]]> By: Madmax http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132174 Madmax Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:28:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132174 GO GRIM!!!!!

GO GRIM!!!!!

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/06/trading-punches-strikeforcefedor-vs-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-132169 fanoftna33 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:02:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=18584#comment-132169 No way shields pulls off a sub on Miller, Jacare couldnt do it and he is bigger and stronger than Shields, maybe even better. I really hope they air the ladies fight, it is for the #1 contender spot after all, and getting the winner over should be important. No way shields pulls off a sub on Miller, Jacare couldnt do it and he is bigger and stronger than Shields, maybe even better.
I really hope they air the ladies fight, it is for the #1 contender spot after all, and getting the winner over should be important.

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