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		<title>By: neijia</title>
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		<dc:creator>neijia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niv, agreed with everything you said above, especially:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I really see no holes in this guys game, he’s as strong as anyone, he’s more skilled than anyone, he’s probably the biggest hitter in the game, but what sets him apart is his smarts and his real time fight analysis.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I find it incredible he can be throwing power punches, throws, and subs almost non-stop and the whole time he is picking up information and analyzing his opponent. I&#039;m not sure who out there has better instant &quot;reading&quot; ability of opponents. It&#039;s dumbfounding to me. I wish in the post-fight interview, he could&#039;ve gone into more depth on what else he saw going on (but then that is not a good idea to get into too much, especially if there would ever really be a rematch). He may be the only mma fighter who&#039;s achieved &quot;mushin&quot; (no mind).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niv, agreed with everything you said above, especially:</p>
<blockquote><p>I really see no holes in this guys game, he’s as strong as anyone, he’s more skilled than anyone, he’s probably the biggest hitter in the game, but what sets him apart is his smarts and his real time fight analysis.</p></blockquote>
<p>I find it incredible he can be throwing power punches, throws, and subs almost non-stop and the whole time he is picking up information and analyzing his opponent. I&#8217;m not sure who out there has better instant &#8220;reading&#8221; ability of opponents. It&#8217;s dumbfounding to me. I wish in the post-fight interview, he could&#8217;ve gone into more depth on what else he saw going on (but then that is not a good idea to get into too much, especially if there would ever really be a rematch). He may be the only mma fighter who&#8217;s achieved &#8220;mushin&#8221; (no mind).</p>
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		<title>By: diceman</title>
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		<dc:creator>diceman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-132458&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rich S.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: dicem
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Um, I don&#039;t know if I would say that Arlovski &quot;beat him up&quot;.  He seemed to be doing well, but like Josh Gross said in a radio show, if you re-watch the fight Arlovski wasn&#039;t really damaging him. 

Did he really land that many strikes?  Fedor&#039;s face looked fine after the fight and his skin is made of tissue paper.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-132458" rel="nofollow">Rich S.</a></strong>: dicem
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<p>Um, I don&#8217;t know if I would say that Arlovski &#8220;beat him up&#8221;.  He seemed to be doing well, but like Josh Gross said in a radio show, if you re-watch the fight Arlovski wasn&#8217;t really damaging him. </p>
<p>Did he really land that many strikes?  Fedor&#8217;s face looked fine after the fight and his skin is made of tissue paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Dachman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dachman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Fedor looked like Fedor he was aggressive looking to finish fast which means he will take some damage. I didnt expect a standing knockout but regardless I feel Rogers would have gassed out the next time Fedor took him down and a submission would have been coming soon after.

The one upside for the UFC is that if Fedor remains unbeaten by the next time his contract is up, SF has just taken care of all of the the marketing for Fedor moving over to the UFC for a matchup against the UFC champ at the time Lesnar, Carwin, Cain......... This will help Dana justify the big paycheck he will have to give Fedor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Fedor looked like Fedor he was aggressive looking to finish fast which means he will take some damage. I didnt expect a standing knockout but regardless I feel Rogers would have gassed out the next time Fedor took him down and a submission would have been coming soon after.</p>
<p>The one upside for the UFC is that if Fedor remains unbeaten by the next time his contract is up, SF has just taken care of all of the the marketing for Fedor moving over to the UFC for a matchup against the UFC champ at the time Lesnar, Carwin, Cain&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; This will help Dana justify the big paycheck he will have to give Fedor.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great link, neijia.</description>
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		<title>By: GassedOut</title>
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		<dc:creator>GassedOut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in agreement with the folks that say Fedor wasn&#039;t in trouble with that GNP.  He got hit something like 4 times (I could back it up and count in slow motion, though it was hardly necessary), and only one of those (the second one I think) was flush.  He escaped most damage, and almost got the armbar he is so famous for.  

I was wrong about the outcome...I had Fedor by 1st round submission.  I&#039;m happy wth round 2 KO though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in agreement with the folks that say Fedor wasn&#8217;t in trouble with that GNP.  He got hit something like 4 times (I could back it up and count in slow motion, though it was hardly necessary), and only one of those (the second one I think) was flush.  He escaped most damage, and almost got the armbar he is so famous for.  </p>
<p>I was wrong about the outcome&#8230;I had Fedor by 1st round submission.  I&#8217;m happy wth round 2 KO though.</p>
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		<title>By: elkymbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>elkymbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is AWESOME to finally see a fight organization that can compete with the UFC . I&#039;m sick of listening to Dana White crap on about how great his company is and how shit everything other than the UFC is. This can only make the sport better because after all there&#039;s nothing wrong with a little healthy competition right? Long live MMA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is AWESOME to finally see a fight organization that can compete with the UFC . I&#8217;m sick of listening to Dana White crap on about how great his company is and how shit everything other than the UFC is. This can only make the sport better because after all there&#8217;s nothing wrong with a little healthy competition right? Long live MMA!</p>
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		<title>By: Niv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich S I don&#039;t know if I can agree that Arlovski and Rogers beat Fedor up good.

I think Rogers still lost that 1st round even though he had some very good moments and landed some huge shots, and Arlovski was doing very well in his fight but I wouldn&#039;t call that beating Fedor up.

I saw an interview on tv with Big John McCarthy earlier in the week and he talked about the Fedor vs Arlovski fight as he ref&#039;d that fight as well. He said he really has no idea what fans are talking about when they say that Arlovski was hurting Fedor, he said at no point in that fight did he see Fedor hurt or in trouble. What he did see was that Fedor was being frustrated with the angles Arlovski was giving him and was having some trouble figuring out how to get to him. 

That in itself means nothing to me and in a five round fight I would be more than surprised if Fedor wouldn&#039;t figure out how to get to you. If you listened to the interpreter last night Fedor said he saw Rogers make a mistake with his feet and bam he knocked him out!

I really see no holes in this guys game, he&#039;s as strong as anyone, he&#039;s more skilled than anyone, he&#039;s probably the biggest hitter in the game, but what sets him apart is his smarts and his real time fight analysis.

Fedor will lose when he gives up on training and is completely bored with this game, as long as he feels a challenge I don&#039;t see him losing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich S I don&#8217;t know if I can agree that Arlovski and Rogers beat Fedor up good.</p>
<p>I think Rogers still lost that 1st round even though he had some very good moments and landed some huge shots, and Arlovski was doing very well in his fight but I wouldn&#8217;t call that beating Fedor up.</p>
<p>I saw an interview on tv with Big John McCarthy earlier in the week and he talked about the Fedor vs Arlovski fight as he ref&#8217;d that fight as well. He said he really has no idea what fans are talking about when they say that Arlovski was hurting Fedor, he said at no point in that fight did he see Fedor hurt or in trouble. What he did see was that Fedor was being frustrated with the angles Arlovski was giving him and was having some trouble figuring out how to get to him. </p>
<p>That in itself means nothing to me and in a five round fight I would be more than surprised if Fedor wouldn&#8217;t figure out how to get to you. If you listened to the interpreter last night Fedor said he saw Rogers make a mistake with his feet and bam he knocked him out!</p>
<p>I really see no holes in this guys game, he&#8217;s as strong as anyone, he&#8217;s more skilled than anyone, he&#8217;s probably the biggest hitter in the game, but what sets him apart is his smarts and his real time fight analysis.</p>
<p>Fedor will lose when he gives up on training and is completely bored with this game, as long as he feels a challenge I don&#8217;t see him losing.</p>
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		<title>By: Niv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>neijia, funny I just saw that video about a week and a half ago. That&#039;s an amazing punch but I wouldn&#039;t want to try it in a real life scenario that&#039;s definitely something for a guy of Fedor&#039;s calibre to use, and use it well he does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neijia, funny I just saw that video about a week and a half ago. That&#8217;s an amazing punch but I wouldn&#8217;t want to try it in a real life scenario that&#8217;s definitely something for a guy of Fedor&#8217;s calibre to use, and use it well he does.</p>
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		<title>By: neijia</title>
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		<dc:creator>neijia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article and video from NY Combat Sambo club explains the Sambo Casting  (think fishing casting motion) punch that Fedor uses:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/286592-educating-mma-fans-fedors-striking-is-not-sloppy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article and video from NY Combat Sambo club explains the Sambo Casting  (think fishing casting motion) punch that Fedor uses:</p>
<p><a href="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/286592-educating-mma-fans-fedors-striking-is-not-sloppy" rel="nofollow">http://bleacherreport.com/articles/286592-educating-mma-fans-fedors-striking-is-not-sloppy</a></p>
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		<title>By: Iconoclastic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iconoclastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO Best HVYWGT fight since Nog vs Cro Cop. This fight could&#039;ve been on Affliction 3. If only they could&#039;ve kept their shit together. With the best fighter p4p (Fedor), Mousasi, who is looking like one of the top in his division and Vitor Belfort who has always been one of the most exciting (when his mind is right). Affliction would definitely be making noise right now. They must be feeling pretty good about themselves right now.............................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO Best HVYWGT fight since Nog vs Cro Cop. This fight could&#8217;ve been on Affliction 3. If only they could&#8217;ve kept their shit together. With the best fighter p4p (Fedor), Mousasi, who is looking like one of the top in his division and Vitor Belfort who has always been one of the most exciting (when his mind is right). Affliction would definitely be making noise right now. They must be feeling pretty good about themselves right now&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Rich S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-132456&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-132456&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;diceman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I think the chances of a good striker with quick hand speed in beating Fedor are much better than that of a wrestler (who is what? going to pound him out? that seems like toughest way to go about beating him)

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Well, that&#039;s obvious..  After all, Arlovski and Rogers both beat him up pretty good.. 
But, at the same time, Fedor won both of those fights by knockout..</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-132456" rel="nofollow">diceman</a></strong>: I think the chances of a good striker with quick hand speed in beating Fedor are much better than that of a wrestler (who is what? going to pound him out? that seems like toughest way to go about beating him)</p>
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<p>Well, that&#8217;s obvious..  After all, Arlovski and Rogers both beat him up pretty good..<br />
But, at the same time, Fedor won both of those fights by knockout..</p>
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		<title>By: diceman</title>
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		<dc:creator>diceman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been seeing a lot people suggesting that Fedor would struggle against wrestlers like Cain or Lesnar.

I have actually always thought the opposite; Fedor loves to fight wrestlers because he has their number.  Guys like Cain and Lesnar simply don&#039;t have to ground game to hang with him for any extended period of time down there.  Staying in his guard is suicide, very few survive it. And neither of those two guys have the stand-up to hurt him.

With that said I think Lesnar has a much better shot than Cain (whats with all these people hopping on his bandwagon recently.  I don&#039;t think beating Ben Rothwell justifies all this hype) because of his size.

I think the chances of a good striker with quick hand speed in beating Fedor are much better than that of a wrestler (who is what? going to pound him out? that seems like toughest way to go about beating him)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been seeing a lot people suggesting that Fedor would struggle against wrestlers like Cain or Lesnar.</p>
<p>I have actually always thought the opposite; Fedor loves to fight wrestlers because he has their number.  Guys like Cain and Lesnar simply don&#8217;t have to ground game to hang with him for any extended period of time down there.  Staying in his guard is suicide, very few survive it. And neither of those two guys have the stand-up to hurt him.</p>
<p>With that said I think Lesnar has a much better shot than Cain (whats with all these people hopping on his bandwagon recently.  I don&#8217;t think beating Ben Rothwell justifies all this hype) because of his size.</p>
<p>I think the chances of a good striker with quick hand speed in beating Fedor are much better than that of a wrestler (who is what? going to pound him out? that seems like toughest way to go about beating him)</p>
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		<title>By: neijia</title>
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		<dc:creator>neijia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-132450&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BigDave&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Everyone is saying how good Rogers looked. Were they watching the same fight i was? He cut Fedors nose with a jab but it was the glove finger hole scraping across the nose that actually caused the cut. When he had Fedor on his back he landed 3 of 8 punches and only one flush.
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Dang you have a good eye. From one camera angle it looked like a good stiff jab in any case - couldn&#039;t tell where the cut came from. Does seem like fabric could do it, but no way I could really tell. I couldn&#039;t tell which gnp punches landed from Rogers, either, but can&#039;t remember the last time I&#039;ve seen Fedor taking some of his own gnp (of course his escaping is great) and thinking &quot;hmm Fedor is in a jam here&quot;. 

Fedor takes the initiative like no one else and swings for the fences every time. The thing I love about him is he looks doughy and looks down like some kind of meek little kid in trouble during the staredown then he comes out 100% electrifyingly BAM. Commentary on twitter last night showed that the &quot;casual fans&quot; now have some awareness of why we love him.

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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-132450&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BigDave&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;:  
Rogers obviously went to the BJ Penn school of Whiny bitch with his post fight interview. 
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lol, great line. Rogers upset about giving an opening? He is not an elite enough mma athlete to where making sure he has zero holes in his defense is the issue. Acting like he somehow lost by messing up, and Fedor didn&#039;t pull off a Fedor-style win is simply ridiculous. That would be like BJ Penn saying he screwed up against GSP and it wasn&#039;t that GSP executed his plan perfectly. Or like Forrest Griffin saying he somehow screwed up and gave Anderson Silva too many openings. Except more ridiculous.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-132450" rel="nofollow">BigDave</a></strong>: Everyone is saying how good Rogers looked. Were they watching the same fight i was? He cut Fedors nose with a jab but it was the glove finger hole scraping across the nose that actually caused the cut. When he had Fedor on his back he landed 3 of 8 punches and only one flush.
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<p>Dang you have a good eye. From one camera angle it looked like a good stiff jab in any case &#8211; couldn&#8217;t tell where the cut came from. Does seem like fabric could do it, but no way I could really tell. I couldn&#8217;t tell which gnp punches landed from Rogers, either, but can&#8217;t remember the last time I&#8217;ve seen Fedor taking some of his own gnp (of course his escaping is great) and thinking &#8220;hmm Fedor is in a jam here&#8221;. </p>
<p>Fedor takes the initiative like no one else and swings for the fences every time. The thing I love about him is he looks doughy and looks down like some kind of meek little kid in trouble during the staredown then he comes out 100% electrifyingly BAM. Commentary on twitter last night showed that the &#8220;casual fans&#8221; now have some awareness of why we love him.</p>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-132450" rel="nofollow">BigDave</a></strong>:<br />
Rogers obviously went to the BJ Penn school of Whiny bitch with his post fight interview.
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<p>lol, great line. Rogers upset about giving an opening? He is not an elite enough mma athlete to where making sure he has zero holes in his defense is the issue. Acting like he somehow lost by messing up, and Fedor didn&#8217;t pull off a Fedor-style win is simply ridiculous. That would be like BJ Penn saying he screwed up against GSP and it wasn&#8217;t that GSP executed his plan perfectly. Or like Forrest Griffin saying he somehow screwed up and gave Anderson Silva too many openings. Except more ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: BigDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is saying how good Rogers looked. Were they watching the same fight i was? He cut Fedors nose with a jab but it was the glove finger hole scraping across the nose that actually caused the cut. When he had Fedor on his back he landed 3 of 8 punches and only one flush. Fedor had rogers buckled in the first round and just missed the armbar but easly saw that looping shot and nearly knocked rogers head clean off. Rogers had no buisness being in the ring with Fedor and it was very clear from the start. 

Rogers obviously went to the BJ Penn school of Whiny bitch with his post fight interview.

Now Fedor needs to pound on Overeem then go to the UFC where Cain velasques will run him over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is saying how good Rogers looked. Were they watching the same fight i was? He cut Fedors nose with a jab but it was the glove finger hole scraping across the nose that actually caused the cut. When he had Fedor on his back he landed 3 of 8 punches and only one flush. Fedor had rogers buckled in the first round and just missed the armbar but easly saw that looping shot and nearly knocked rogers head clean off. Rogers had no buisness being in the ring with Fedor and it was very clear from the start. </p>
<p>Rogers obviously went to the BJ Penn school of Whiny bitch with his post fight interview.</p>
<p>Now Fedor needs to pound on Overeem then go to the UFC where Cain velasques will run him over.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was an entertaining fight, and Rogers was more competitive than I thought he&#039;d be.  He smartly pressed Fedor against the cage, using his weight and upper body strength to pin Fedor.  He hurt Fedor with the jab that probably broke Fedor&#039;s nose, and powered out of submission attempts.  Then in the second round he had his hands too low, and something about his footwork telegraphed a punch.  Fedor saw it (and said something about it in the interview after the fight, but it didn&#039;t get translated very well, unfortunately) and got off the overhand right first.  Fedor saw and exploited a hole in Rogers&#039; game, but Rogers was understandably upset because he gave that opening to Fedor.  How would Fedor do against a huge wrestler like Velazquez or Lesnar in a cage?  I&#039;d sure like to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was an entertaining fight, and Rogers was more competitive than I thought he&#8217;d be.  He smartly pressed Fedor against the cage, using his weight and upper body strength to pin Fedor.  He hurt Fedor with the jab that probably broke Fedor&#8217;s nose, and powered out of submission attempts.  Then in the second round he had his hands too low, and something about his footwork telegraphed a punch.  Fedor saw it (and said something about it in the interview after the fight, but it didn&#8217;t get translated very well, unfortunately) and got off the overhand right first.  Fedor saw and exploited a hole in Rogers&#8217; game, but Rogers was understandably upset because he gave that opening to Fedor.  How would Fedor do against a huge wrestler like Velazquez or Lesnar in a cage?  I&#8217;d sure like to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: MMApride19</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMApride19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-132405&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-132405&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rich S.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I felt so strongly that Rogers was going to win tonight..
Not because he deserves it, or because he’s as good as Fedor, I just had a feeling..
Either way, now that it’s all said and done, I’m FINALLY impressed with Brett Rogers..
Before tonight I saw him as a wild slugger that got his wins ONLY because of his hands being heavy, and his opponents being dumb..
But, he was far more technical tonight.. And I’ll be honest, I thought as soon as it went to the ground that armbar was going to get locked in, but he used his sheer size and power to escape all of the submissions..With that said, Fedor looked horrible (compared to previous performances) in the cage.. He seemed to get tired faster than I’ve ever seen him get tired, and I honestly thought it was over when he was getting pounded in the first round..
He’s fought far bigger and stronger guys than Rogers, so I don’t see that being the reason behind his performance..In other news:Gegard is still an absolute freak of nature.
Shields and Miller are both amazing.
The better Soko’s opponent, the better he performs.
Werdum is a trooper.
And the commentators are still very annoying..

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Hmm, i expected him to look slightly worse than normal, everyones first fight in the octagon/cage is always worse than there average performance. It was actuallly his first fight EVER in the cage. So its expected for him to be a bit rusty. However... he still schooled Rogers i thought. 

I mean... yeh Rogers landed some big shots, especially on the ground, however, not once did Fedor look hurt, or slightly rocked. He looked calm and collected as always. Before the KO, he was also beating Rogers in the stand up aswell, as i predicted. Fedor has underrated speed, not many people give his stand up the credit it deserves, he was throwing Rogers about, rocking Rogers with big shots, and controlling him from the top position. Whilst not technicaly brilliant, his speed and power matched with his accuracy is seriously good for a HW fighter. In fact i think its un matched. He did appear to be a little tired compared to usual aswell, his gas tank is usually untouched until after 12 - 15 minutes. But, im putting that solely down to the fact he suffered a broken nose within the first exchange.... and if u have ever had a broken nose.. you know how difficult it s to breath through your nose, and also how difficult it is to just fight with a broken nose (however its fedor.. he probebly didnt even feel the pain). Also coupled with the fact it was his first fight in the cage. 

Whilst an impressive performance by Fedor, and an impressive first win in the cage over a dangerous opponent, the only fighter in strikeforce i really want to se him fight is Alistair Overeem. Overeem is proving to be a huge force as a HW, and Fedors only real challange (even though im slightly suspicious to how he got so big lol, but we wont brng that into it). So IMO, this is Fedors only realy challenge in strikeforces HW division. I do think Werdum would put up a good fight, but not enough to really challenge Fedor, And i think Fedor would just KO him quite comfortably. The rest of the top HW&#039;s are in UFC, so we will have to wait and se what Fedor decides in the future.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-132405" rel="nofollow">Rich S.</a></strong>: I felt so strongly that Rogers was going to win tonight..<br />
Not because he deserves it, or because he’s as good as Fedor, I just had a feeling..<br />
Either way, now that it’s all said and done, I’m FINALLY impressed with Brett Rogers..<br />
Before tonight I saw him as a wild slugger that got his wins ONLY because of his hands being heavy, and his opponents being dumb..<br />
But, he was far more technical tonight.. And I’ll be honest, I thought as soon as it went to the ground that armbar was going to get locked in, but he used his sheer size and power to escape all of the submissions..With that said, Fedor looked horrible (compared to previous performances) in the cage.. He seemed to get tired faster than I’ve ever seen him get tired, and I honestly thought it was over when he was getting pounded in the first round..<br />
He’s fought far bigger and stronger guys than Rogers, so I don’t see that being the reason behind his performance..In other news:Gegard is still an absolute freak of nature.<br />
Shields and Miller are both amazing.<br />
The better Soko’s opponent, the better he performs.<br />
Werdum is a trooper.<br />
And the commentators are still very annoying..</p>
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<p>Hmm, i expected him to look slightly worse than normal, everyones first fight in the octagon/cage is always worse than there average performance. It was actuallly his first fight EVER in the cage. So its expected for him to be a bit rusty. However&#8230; he still schooled Rogers i thought. </p>
<p>I mean&#8230; yeh Rogers landed some big shots, especially on the ground, however, not once did Fedor look hurt, or slightly rocked. He looked calm and collected as always. Before the KO, he was also beating Rogers in the stand up aswell, as i predicted. Fedor has underrated speed, not many people give his stand up the credit it deserves, he was throwing Rogers about, rocking Rogers with big shots, and controlling him from the top position. Whilst not technicaly brilliant, his speed and power matched with his accuracy is seriously good for a HW fighter. In fact i think its un matched. He did appear to be a little tired compared to usual aswell, his gas tank is usually untouched until after 12 &#8211; 15 minutes. But, im putting that solely down to the fact he suffered a broken nose within the first exchange&#8230;. and if u have ever had a broken nose.. you know how difficult it s to breath through your nose, and also how difficult it is to just fight with a broken nose (however its fedor.. he probebly didnt even feel the pain). Also coupled with the fact it was his first fight in the cage. </p>
<p>Whilst an impressive performance by Fedor, and an impressive first win in the cage over a dangerous opponent, the only fighter in strikeforce i really want to se him fight is Alistair Overeem. Overeem is proving to be a huge force as a HW, and Fedors only real challange (even though im slightly suspicious to how he got so big lol, but we wont brng that into it). So IMO, this is Fedors only realy challenge in strikeforces HW division. I do think Werdum would put up a good fight, but not enough to really challenge Fedor, And i think Fedor would just KO him quite comfortably. The rest of the top HW&#8217;s are in UFC, so we will have to wait and se what Fedor decides in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: neijia</title>
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		<dc:creator>neijia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-132383&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-132383&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;liamgillis08&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: This is ridiculous. Fedor looked more vulnerable then ever. He clearly struggled with the size and power of Brett Rogers. If anything… Fedor’s aura of invincibilily is gone. How would he do consistently against the behemoth wrestlers in the UFC is a more relevant question than ever before

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True Fedor does look human. He looked human losing on points to Arlovski til Bam. It&#039;s how he plays out of the rough that makes him Fedor, though... the same kind of thing that makes Tiger Woods beloved as the world&#039;s best golfer. A big jab landing (Fedor kind of threw at the exact same time but straight line does in fact beat curved line between two points) and the gnp would finish a lot of good guys. 

Except for the lack of class at the interview, Rogers is looking impressive. Putting Fedor in a spot of trouble looks good on your resume. 

Congrats, Strikeforce. Great card, great job.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-132383" rel="nofollow">liamgillis08</a></strong>: This is ridiculous. Fedor looked more vulnerable then ever. He clearly struggled with the size and power of Brett Rogers. If anything… Fedor’s aura of invincibilily is gone. How would he do consistently against the behemoth wrestlers in the UFC is a more relevant question than ever before</p>
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<p>True Fedor does look human. He looked human losing on points to Arlovski til Bam. It&#8217;s how he plays out of the rough that makes him Fedor, though&#8230; the same kind of thing that makes Tiger Woods beloved as the world&#8217;s best golfer. A big jab landing (Fedor kind of threw at the exact same time but straight line does in fact beat curved line between two points) and the gnp would finish a lot of good guys. </p>
<p>Except for the lack of class at the interview, Rogers is looking impressive. Putting Fedor in a spot of trouble looks good on your resume. </p>
<p>Congrats, Strikeforce. Great card, great job.</p>
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		<title>By: neijia</title>
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		<dc:creator>neijia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Stoppage yes. But it probably wasn&#039;t just Gus, but CBS trying to end it. You wouldn&#039;t shut up Tyler Hansborough after UNC wins March Madness or Tiger Woods after winning the US Open would you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Stoppage yes. But it probably wasn&#8217;t just Gus, but CBS trying to end it. You wouldn&#8217;t shut up Tyler Hansborough after UNC wins March Madness or Tiger Woods after winning the US Open would you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JOEgun</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOEgun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Dr. Stoppage. I believe Rogers was simply very emotional losing the way he did. He lost for the first time in his MMA career and he really really wanted to beat Fedor and felt he was so close to finishing him at one point. Rogers had every reason to be as emotional as he was but if he wouldve have been able to contain it better im sure he wouldve chose better words to express his loss.  
And thanks for pointing out how Gus Johnson didnt let Fedor say something and turned away with the mic. I hated that! I dont care if i dont understand Russian, LET THE CHAMP SPEAK WHAT HE WANTS TO SAY !! I mean c&#039;mon! I&#039;d like to think the fans would like to listen to their champion speak even if they may not be sure what he is saying, and we can get most of it translated anyway. It just appears rude and i would change that if i could. 
Cant wait to see Fedor or Brett compete again! not necesarily against each other but they are both exciting fighters, i just wish Strikeforce had a bigger and better stable of heavyweight fighters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Dr. Stoppage. I believe Rogers was simply very emotional losing the way he did. He lost for the first time in his MMA career and he really really wanted to beat Fedor and felt he was so close to finishing him at one point. Rogers had every reason to be as emotional as he was but if he wouldve have been able to contain it better im sure he wouldve chose better words to express his loss.<br />
And thanks for pointing out how Gus Johnson didnt let Fedor say something and turned away with the mic. I hated that! I dont care if i dont understand Russian, LET THE CHAMP SPEAK WHAT HE WANTS TO SAY !! I mean c&#8217;mon! I&#8217;d like to think the fans would like to listen to their champion speak even if they may not be sure what he is saying, and we can get most of it translated anyway. It just appears rude and i would change that if i could.<br />
Cant wait to see Fedor or Brett compete again! not necesarily against each other but they are both exciting fighters, i just wish Strikeforce had a bigger and better stable of heavyweight fighters.</p>
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		<title>By: therussianexperiment</title>
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		<dc:creator>therussianexperiment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fedor just knows how to win.

I guess that&#039;s how I would describe the pound 4 pound Emperor.

Anderson Silva and St. Pierre looks sharper and Brock is more intimidating BUT There&#039;s JUST SOMETHING ABOUT FEDOR. I guess he&#039;s more analytical than everyone while effortlessly flowing in the moment in every fight adapting to his opponents and the situation.

From each fight after Pride, Fedor is not only fighting opponents who are not afraid of him now (Arlovski and Brett were not afraid of him and fighters now will always say Fedor has holes in this and that etc. that they will expose) but he&#039;s also fighting the laws of probability like the Patriots did in the 2007 Super Bowl.

It will be a great accomplishment  if Fedor can keep his win streak going until he retires. IF anyone can do it, I will not be surprised if he&#039;s the one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fedor just knows how to win.</p>
<p>I guess that&#8217;s how I would describe the pound 4 pound Emperor.</p>
<p>Anderson Silva and St. Pierre looks sharper and Brock is more intimidating BUT There&#8217;s JUST SOMETHING ABOUT FEDOR. I guess he&#8217;s more analytical than everyone while effortlessly flowing in the moment in every fight adapting to his opponents and the situation.</p>
<p>From each fight after Pride, Fedor is not only fighting opponents who are not afraid of him now (Arlovski and Brett were not afraid of him and fighters now will always say Fedor has holes in this and that etc. that they will expose) but he&#8217;s also fighting the laws of probability like the Patriots did in the 2007 Super Bowl.</p>
<p>It will be a great accomplishment  if Fedor can keep his win streak going until he retires. IF anyone can do it, I will not be surprised if he&#8217;s the one.</p>
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