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	<title>Comments on: Trading Punches: UFC 105 Preview and Predictions; The Prelims</title>
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		<title>By: MMAReality</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMAReality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is interesting is that quite a few people have made TERRIBLE picks.  There is huge difference between reasonable picks and picks based on who you WANT to win, and unfortunately for many, that disparity is huge.  If you find yourself in a pattern of making terrible picks, go back to the drawing board and think about what is influencing your picks, or just stop embarrassing yourself and stop making picks.  Separate who you WANT to win from who you THINK will win.

As for the Vera vs. Couture match, I picked Couture immediately for two big reasons:  

1.  Although Couture is quite a bit older, he has much more experience, a good fight record, and is in phenominal shape.

2.  Vera&#039;s fight record is unimpressive, and he is consistently overconfident when interviewed in his upcoming matches.

There are many more reasons to consider Vera a poor fighter.  He is incredibly scrawny.  Forget about technical skills for a moment.  You can have good technical skills, but if you take a couple of strikes from someone who is much stronger than you, and is in much better physical shape than you, you will most likely lose.  (Take for example, Mir vs. Lesnar:  While Lesnar lost to Mir in the first matchup to a cheasy submission, Lesnar turned Mir into hamburger, and he will NEVER lose to Mir again.  I know a lot of people hate Lesnar, but imagine how much better Lesnar would be if while he increases his technical skills, he loses fat and maintains his muscle.)

In Vera&#039;s case, I have never seen a fighter that is both &quot;fat&quot; and &quot;skinny&quot; at the same time.  If you are going to carry some noticeable fat, for god&#039;s sake, train hard and put some muscle on!  Vera&#039;s physical condition is a clear indication of a lack of discipline in training.  Physically, he is a very scrawny, sloppy mess, and it shows in his fighting.  Take a look around at most other LHW contenders, and none of them are in as bad shape as Vera.  I realize his raw weight is there, but I cannot see him fighting as a LHW, and him fighting as a HW is just laughable!  In either division, I do not think that Vera is a good fighter, and it was clearly demonstrated again in UFC 105.  Combine this with the fact that there are too many far more superior fighters in LHW, and his prospect of a future in HW division is ridiculous. 

Moreover, unless Vera can drop down as far as a MW or even a WW (or put on some significant muscle mass AND lose fat), he has no long term future.  This is why I also believe that he will not be in the UFC much longer.  If you disagree, please hold my feet to the fire on this, come back later, and either tell me I was wrong, or be man enough to concede that I was right.  I will gracefully do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is interesting is that quite a few people have made TERRIBLE picks.  There is huge difference between reasonable picks and picks based on who you WANT to win, and unfortunately for many, that disparity is huge.  If you find yourself in a pattern of making terrible picks, go back to the drawing board and think about what is influencing your picks, or just stop embarrassing yourself and stop making picks.  Separate who you WANT to win from who you THINK will win.</p>
<p>As for the Vera vs. Couture match, I picked Couture immediately for two big reasons:  </p>
<p>1.  Although Couture is quite a bit older, he has much more experience, a good fight record, and is in phenominal shape.</p>
<p>2.  Vera&#8217;s fight record is unimpressive, and he is consistently overconfident when interviewed in his upcoming matches.</p>
<p>There are many more reasons to consider Vera a poor fighter.  He is incredibly scrawny.  Forget about technical skills for a moment.  You can have good technical skills, but if you take a couple of strikes from someone who is much stronger than you, and is in much better physical shape than you, you will most likely lose.  (Take for example, Mir vs. Lesnar:  While Lesnar lost to Mir in the first matchup to a cheasy submission, Lesnar turned Mir into hamburger, and he will NEVER lose to Mir again.  I know a lot of people hate Lesnar, but imagine how much better Lesnar would be if while he increases his technical skills, he loses fat and maintains his muscle.)</p>
<p>In Vera&#8217;s case, I have never seen a fighter that is both &#8220;fat&#8221; and &#8220;skinny&#8221; at the same time.  If you are going to carry some noticeable fat, for god&#8217;s sake, train hard and put some muscle on!  Vera&#8217;s physical condition is a clear indication of a lack of discipline in training.  Physically, he is a very scrawny, sloppy mess, and it shows in his fighting.  Take a look around at most other LHW contenders, and none of them are in as bad shape as Vera.  I realize his raw weight is there, but I cannot see him fighting as a LHW, and him fighting as a HW is just laughable!  In either division, I do not think that Vera is a good fighter, and it was clearly demonstrated again in UFC 105.  Combine this with the fact that there are too many far more superior fighters in LHW, and his prospect of a future in HW division is ridiculous. </p>
<p>Moreover, unless Vera can drop down as far as a MW or even a WW (or put on some significant muscle mass AND lose fat), he has no long term future.  This is why I also believe that he will not be in the UFC much longer.  If you disagree, please hold my feet to the fire on this, come back later, and either tell me I was wrong, or be man enough to concede that I was right.  I will gracefully do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Taylor is a solid fighter, but Hathaway is really moving up in this division..
-Hathaway via Unanimous Decision.

Terry Etim is a very well-rounded fighter and has all the tools to win on the feet AND the ground, here..
-Terry Etim via TKO r3.

Wow, I didn&#039;t realize Dennis Siver is on a 3 fight win streak.. Last I remember his world was getting rocked by Melvin Guillard.. I guess that goes to show how important he is..
Paul Kelly is a pitbull and he&#039;s going to have his dirty, dirty way with Siver..
-Paul Kelly via Unanimous Decision.

I thoroughly enjoyed watching Matt Riddle totally control Dante Rivera, who had previously said he&#039;d retire if he ever lost to Matt.. But, I prefer those guys that can hit you from any angle on the feet, with a punch OR a kick, and still submit you as soon as it hits the mat... i.e. - Nick Osipczak. 
For no other reason than the fact that I really want this kid to succeed:
-Nick Osipczak via Triangle Choke r2

I still believe that Andre Winner is going to go further in this sport than Pearson..
What I love about this guy is, on the show, we were led to believe he&#039;s a devastating striker..
Yet, he has more wins via submission..
I&#039;m going to assume he has the submission defense to fend off Roli (If it even makes it to the ground), and he will totally batter Roli on the feet..
-Andre Winner via TKO r3.


...aaaaaaaaaaaaand I&#039;m spent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Taylor is a solid fighter, but Hathaway is really moving up in this division..<br />
-Hathaway via Unanimous Decision.</p>
<p>Terry Etim is a very well-rounded fighter and has all the tools to win on the feet AND the ground, here..<br />
-Terry Etim via TKO r3.</p>
<p>Wow, I didn&#8217;t realize Dennis Siver is on a 3 fight win streak.. Last I remember his world was getting rocked by Melvin Guillard.. I guess that goes to show how important he is..<br />
Paul Kelly is a pitbull and he&#8217;s going to have his dirty, dirty way with Siver..<br />
-Paul Kelly via Unanimous Decision.</p>
<p>I thoroughly enjoyed watching Matt Riddle totally control Dante Rivera, who had previously said he&#8217;d retire if he ever lost to Matt.. But, I prefer those guys that can hit you from any angle on the feet, with a punch OR a kick, and still submit you as soon as it hits the mat&#8230; i.e. &#8211; Nick Osipczak.<br />
For no other reason than the fact that I really want this kid to succeed:<br />
-Nick Osipczak via Triangle Choke r2</p>
<p>I still believe that Andre Winner is going to go further in this sport than Pearson..<br />
What I love about this guy is, on the show, we were led to believe he&#8217;s a devastating striker..<br />
Yet, he has more wins via submission..<br />
I&#8217;m going to assume he has the submission defense to fend off Roli (If it even makes it to the ground), and he will totally batter Roli on the feet..<br />
-Andre Winner via TKO r3.</p>
<p>&#8230;aaaaaaaaaaaaand I&#8217;m spent.</p>
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		<title>By: saerbarnet</title>
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		<dc:creator>saerbarnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Cory Brady: Alexander has an awesome nickname, “The Mauler”, but don’t even pretend like you’ve seen a bunch of tape on this guy.&quot;


Welcome to the internet, Here is a tip: www.youtube.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cory Brady: Alexander has an awesome nickname, “The Mauler”, but don’t even pretend like you’ve seen a bunch of tape on this guy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Welcome to the internet, Here is a tip: <a href="http://www.youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: edub</title>
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		<dc:creator>edub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Taylor via tko- Hathaway I believe is in a bit over his head here. I know he&#039;s 11-0 and he has faced some pretty good fighters but Taylor continues to evolve and his stand up is probably at least near the top of the 170 lb div.

Shannon Gugherity by UD or late tko- I slept on Gugherity before his last fight with Grice and he opened my eyes a little bit. I feel he has enough of an edge in wrestling to force his will in this fight.

Kelly via UD- Kelly is the better wrestler and he is naturally a hell of a lot stronger. This fight to me is just a horrible matchup for Siver

Jared Hamman via KO- Dont know enough about either fighter to develope an intelligent choice so Im just piggy backing on cory&#039;s pick.

Andre Winner via KO- I think Roli is in a world of trouble here. I think the fight is gonna be fast and it is gonna be violent.
Riddle via dec- If every sight I have looked at predicts another suffocating victory for Riddle who am i to disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Taylor via tko- Hathaway I believe is in a bit over his head here. I know he&#8217;s 11-0 and he has faced some pretty good fighters but Taylor continues to evolve and his stand up is probably at least near the top of the 170 lb div.</p>
<p>Shannon Gugherity by UD or late tko- I slept on Gugherity before his last fight with Grice and he opened my eyes a little bit. I feel he has enough of an edge in wrestling to force his will in this fight.</p>
<p>Kelly via UD- Kelly is the better wrestler and he is naturally a hell of a lot stronger. This fight to me is just a horrible matchup for Siver</p>
<p>Jared Hamman via KO- Dont know enough about either fighter to develope an intelligent choice so Im just piggy backing on cory&#8217;s pick.</p>
<p>Andre Winner via KO- I think Roli is in a world of trouble here. I think the fight is gonna be fast and it is gonna be violent.<br />
Riddle via dec- If every sight I have looked at predicts another suffocating victory for Riddle who am i to disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: fanoftna33</title>
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		<dc:creator>fanoftna33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two fights here that really interest me are Taylor vs Hathaway and Delgado vs winner.
I enjoy watching Taylor fight every time out, and still think he should have the w vs Davis as the ref let Davis take way more shots than he should have. That said his weakness takedown defense, if Hathaway takes him down he will likely get the ud. But my gut says Taylor will pull it out
Taylor 3rd tko
Ive liked Roli ever since Mir gave him crap about his black belt. I still would like to see Roli put on some weight and move up a class as he is pretty tall. He is very tough but really needs to work on some wrestling but I belive he will take this one.
Delgado submission 2nd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two fights here that really interest me are Taylor vs Hathaway and Delgado vs winner.<br />
I enjoy watching Taylor fight every time out, and still think he should have the w vs Davis as the ref let Davis take way more shots than he should have. That said his weakness takedown defense, if Hathaway takes him down he will likely get the ud. But my gut says Taylor will pull it out<br />
Taylor 3rd tko<br />
Ive liked Roli ever since Mir gave him crap about his black belt. I still would like to see Roli put on some weight and move up a class as he is pretty tall. He is very tough but really needs to work on some wrestling but I belive he will take this one.<br />
Delgado submission 2nd.</p>
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		<title>By: moosebaby02</title>
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		<dc:creator>moosebaby02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taylor
Etim
Kelly
Osipczak
Gustafsson 
Winner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taylor<br />
Etim<br />
Kelly<br />
Osipczak<br />
Gustafsson<br />
Winner</p>
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