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		<title>By: MMA-LOGIC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMA-LOGIC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as Rogers goes I think a rematch with Arlovski or like one of you said a match with Sylvia would be great. As for Fedor I think he should move on to fight either Overeem, Werdum or ,if possible, Barnett.
Mousasi is a rare talent and to bet against him would be folly in most instances but I agree that I would bet on Machida if I was forced to wager my last dollar.

But for those saying , like Dachman above, that he would struggle to beat blah blah blah. What do base this on? I&#039;ll tell you F#CK ALL!. I&#039;m so sick of people saying &quot;he would struggle against&quot; and then listing F#CKING UFC FIGHTERS! or saying Fedor hasn&#039;t fought anyone decent recently and then suggesting the type of fighter that he should be facing is F#CKING UFC FIGHTERS like Carwin or Valasquez etc when out of the last 11 opponents he has faced 7 were top 10 at the time he fought them,  4 were top 5,  4 of them are ex UFC HW champs (who because they left the UFC they now suck. SOOOOO anoying and stupid!) and 1 a K1 champ!!!! also these guys like Carwin and Valasquez have never faced a guy who was been top10 ever and have only ever faced 1 or 2 guys each who were top 20 and that is if you would consider Kongo top 20. So what makes them such dangerous opponents? MARKETING!!!!!! perhaps? I&#039;m not saying Fedor would beat them but he has faced such tests tens of times in his career.. Listen everyone, you aren&#039;t psychic but you can guess at who would win like I sometimes do but for f#cks sake stop thinking that because Aoki, Mousasi, Sheilds and Fedor havn&#039;t fought any current UFC fighters that they wouldn&#039;t stand a chance. 1 because the UFC prevents the fights from taking place so we can&#039;t see them fight and 2 because it is dumb and annoying. Now before you say it &quot;anti UFC&quot; this is not, just because I am trying to point out that other fighters may be just as talented is not &quot;anti UFC&quot; it is grabbing people by the shoulders and trying to shake a little sense into them because if Pride has taught us anything it is that top fighters from other organizations ... sometimes ... can ... possibly ... be ... BETTER!!!!(or as good). Wow what a concept. Just imagine it. You can&#039;t can you. So sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as Rogers goes I think a rematch with Arlovski or like one of you said a match with Sylvia would be great. As for Fedor I think he should move on to fight either Overeem, Werdum or ,if possible, Barnett.<br />
Mousasi is a rare talent and to bet against him would be folly in most instances but I agree that I would bet on Machida if I was forced to wager my last dollar.</p>
<p>But for those saying , like Dachman above, that he would struggle to beat blah blah blah. What do base this on? I&#8217;ll tell you F#CK ALL!. I&#8217;m so sick of people saying &#8220;he would struggle against&#8221; and then listing F#CKING UFC FIGHTERS! or saying Fedor hasn&#8217;t fought anyone decent recently and then suggesting the type of fighter that he should be facing is F#CKING UFC FIGHTERS like Carwin or Valasquez etc when out of the last 11 opponents he has faced 7 were top 10 at the time he fought them,  4 were top 5,  4 of them are ex UFC HW champs (who because they left the UFC they now suck. SOOOOO anoying and stupid!) and 1 a K1 champ!!!! also these guys like Carwin and Valasquez have never faced a guy who was been top10 ever and have only ever faced 1 or 2 guys each who were top 20 and that is if you would consider Kongo top 20. So what makes them such dangerous opponents? MARKETING!!!!!! perhaps? I&#8217;m not saying Fedor would beat them but he has faced such tests tens of times in his career.. Listen everyone, you aren&#8217;t psychic but you can guess at who would win like I sometimes do but for f#cks sake stop thinking that because Aoki, Mousasi, Sheilds and Fedor havn&#8217;t fought any current UFC fighters that they wouldn&#8217;t stand a chance. 1 because the UFC prevents the fights from taking place so we can&#8217;t see them fight and 2 because it is dumb and annoying. Now before you say it &#8220;anti UFC&#8221; this is not, just because I am trying to point out that other fighters may be just as talented is not &#8220;anti UFC&#8221; it is grabbing people by the shoulders and trying to shake a little sense into them because if Pride has taught us anything it is that top fighters from other organizations &#8230; sometimes &#8230; can &#8230; possibly &#8230; be &#8230; BETTER!!!!(or as good). Wow what a concept. Just imagine it. You can&#8217;t can you. So sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Dachman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dachman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Rogers is being given way too much credit. He is 6&#039;5&quot; 265 pounds and made it to the second round. I believe that Rogers would have a lot of trouble with Tim Sylvia. Sylvia&#039;s ground game is way under rated for how big he is. 

Mousasi 2nd best 205er in the world that is crazy talk, no way. Who has he beat? From Randy, Forrest, Rua, Evans, Tito...... he would have a really hard time, if not lose every one of those match ups. 

Strikeforce get a new camera crew and ditch Shamrock he is terrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Rogers is being given way too much credit. He is 6&#8217;5&#8243; 265 pounds and made it to the second round. I believe that Rogers would have a lot of trouble with Tim Sylvia. Sylvia&#8217;s ground game is way under rated for how big he is. </p>
<p>Mousasi 2nd best 205er in the world that is crazy talk, no way. Who has he beat? From Randy, Forrest, Rua, Evans, Tito&#8230;&#8230; he would have a really hard time, if not lose every one of those match ups. </p>
<p>Strikeforce get a new camera crew and ditch Shamrock he is terrible.</p>
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		<title>By: BigDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok ,

I&#039;ll start with saying NOONE currently at 170 in any organization has a chance at beating GSP and certainly not swick or hardy who dont make the top 10 in the division.

I want to see gono in the ufc. He is fun to watch everytime out. Also Herman would be a force although I just dont see him on a top tier level just yet but fights with Kongo or Gonzaga would be fun to watch.

Brett Rogers doesn&#039;t even deserve to hold fedors jock strap let alone a rematch. Yes he made fedor bleed but he bleeds easy and the only real pain inflicted on Fedor was done by fedor smashing his fist into rogers jaw. I don&#039;t thin Rogers beats werdum, silva or silvia if they are on there game and dont see Rogers ever sniffing a big payday fight unless they let him beat up kimbo in the ufc after he gets thumped by alexander.

I&#039;m a huge fan of both Machida and Mousasi and this is a fight that has to happen IMO. they are the top 2 guys at 205 in the world and it would be a great injustice if this fight wasn&#039;t to happen. As for the outcome I will have to go with Mousasi just because he has the patience and level head when he is fighting to not get caught and I think is the more powerful striker of the 2 but i think it will go to a split decision.

5.5 is my score for the strikeforce event. Thank god the fights were good because the rest of the show was horrible. Johnson and shamrock need to never commentate ever again. The backstage intervier chich seemed like if she had an intelligent thought it would die of lonilyness, and the Camera work left alot to be desired IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok ,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll start with saying NOONE currently at 170 in any organization has a chance at beating GSP and certainly not swick or hardy who dont make the top 10 in the division.</p>
<p>I want to see gono in the ufc. He is fun to watch everytime out. Also Herman would be a force although I just dont see him on a top tier level just yet but fights with Kongo or Gonzaga would be fun to watch.</p>
<p>Brett Rogers doesn&#8217;t even deserve to hold fedors jock strap let alone a rematch. Yes he made fedor bleed but he bleeds easy and the only real pain inflicted on Fedor was done by fedor smashing his fist into rogers jaw. I don&#8217;t thin Rogers beats werdum, silva or silvia if they are on there game and dont see Rogers ever sniffing a big payday fight unless they let him beat up kimbo in the ufc after he gets thumped by alexander.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a huge fan of both Machida and Mousasi and this is a fight that has to happen IMO. they are the top 2 guys at 205 in the world and it would be a great injustice if this fight wasn&#8217;t to happen. As for the outcome I will have to go with Mousasi just because he has the patience and level head when he is fighting to not get caught and I think is the more powerful striker of the 2 but i think it will go to a split decision.</p>
<p>5.5 is my score for the strikeforce event. Thank god the fights were good because the rest of the show was horrible. Johnson and shamrock need to never commentate ever again. The backstage intervier chich seemed like if she had an intelligent thought it would die of lonilyness, and the Camera work left alot to be desired IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: BennyProfane</title>
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		<dc:creator>BennyProfane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These questions didn&#039;t spur any type of debate.  Too obvious.

Something more along the lines of... will Lesnar still be able to dominate Carwin now that his conditioning is dramatically bruised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These questions didn&#8217;t spur any type of debate.  Too obvious.</p>
<p>Something more along the lines of&#8230; will Lesnar still be able to dominate Carwin now that his conditioning is dramatically bruised.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendhan Conlan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendhan Conlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it should&#039;ve been labeled as &quot;downkicks&quot; cause they definitely weren&#039;t your standard &quot;upkick&quot; variety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it should&#8217;ve been labeled as &#8220;downkicks&#8221; cause they definitely weren&#8217;t your standard &#8220;upkick&#8221; variety.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that&#039;s brutal..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s brutal..</p>
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		<title>By: fanoftna33</title>
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		<dc:creator>fanoftna33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was rocked early on in his last fight and almost got koed but York took him down when he had Dave in a lot of trouble and went for a heel hook, Dave aacually koed York by bringing his heel down on Yorks head about 7-9 times. Big mistake by York who was well on his way to a ko victory, but great show of grit by Herman to pull it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was rocked early on in his last fight and almost got koed but York took him down when he had Dave in a lot of trouble and went for a heel hook, Dave aacually koed York by bringing his heel down on Yorks head about 7-9 times. Big mistake by York who was well on his way to a ko victory, but great show of grit by Herman to pull it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to see Dave Herman in the UFC.. 
He&#039;s naturally gifted.. 
He has all the power a Heavyweight should have, and the agility of a Middleweight..
It&#039;s amazing really.. And his submissions are just as good as his strikes.. 
Early on, he admitted to not always training hard, and sometimes not training at all.. 
But, that embarrassing loss he took in Japan sobered him up pretty quickly, and he&#039;s bounced back with 3 straight, impressive wins..  In fact, I haven&#039;t seen it yet, but apparently his last win was via upkicks.. That&#039;s just badass..
He&#039;s doing everything he needs to, it&#039;s just a matter of Dana noticing this kid..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to see Dave Herman in the UFC..<br />
He&#8217;s naturally gifted..<br />
He has all the power a Heavyweight should have, and the agility of a Middleweight..<br />
It&#8217;s amazing really.. And his submissions are just as good as his strikes..<br />
Early on, he admitted to not always training hard, and sometimes not training at all..<br />
But, that embarrassing loss he took in Japan sobered him up pretty quickly, and he&#8217;s bounced back with 3 straight, impressive wins..  In fact, I haven&#8217;t seen it yet, but apparently his last win was via upkicks.. That&#8217;s just badass..<br />
He&#8217;s doing everything he needs to, it&#8217;s just a matter of Dana noticing this kid..</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i must say for some dumb reason I thought this article had Adam from the band tool commenting..lol I know..i&#039;m sorry, I&#039;m one of those people who require a helmet in public.

David pee-wee Herman is easily the hands down choice on that one. 25yrs old, 6&#039;4 240lbs, ko power and still green enough that a proper camp to train at could do tremendous things to his skill set and for his career (think kos after going to aka). also after watching the current season of tuf and seeing the guys that may make it into the ufc I have no doubt in my mind pee-wee can win a few fights under the zuffa banner. I&#039;d like to see a fight between Herman and todd duffee.


no Brett Rogers doesn&#039;t earn a re-match asap?! why because he made fedor bleed? he is a bleeder.. some are some aren&#039;t. honestly if Forrest or Nick Diaz or fedor aren&#039;t bleeding in a fight the bell hasn&#039;t rung yet.

strikeforce event? 6.5 solely because I could not stand Gus Johnson and his dumb robotic announcer voice. but it got an extra 1.5pts for mayhems entrance. 

gegard and lyoto? I&#039;m sorry but as dominant as he has been you could tell that Soku was frustrating him alot when gegard wasn&#039;t in complete control. I feel he is best when he is the dominant one and needs to be in control to find his &quot;riddum&quot; in the ring. with that said machida is too good at what he does and I see mousasi getting frustrated and straying from the gameplan and getting taken out by machida the superior striker.

as for swick or hardy vs gsp? Although I love hardy I see swick as the larger threat but I also forsee that fight looking alot like the alves fight. a tactical dismantling of an excellent fighter. with that said I need rumble to make weight win two fights then hopefully we can see rumble and gsp. if gsp defends his belt twice more I feel he should take on a new challenge and fight at mw. because he is making the ww division boring at the moment. lol

lastly let Brett Rogers put a beating on the Maine-iac Tim Sylvia because I think that man is a douche then let Rogers fight bigfoot. if he gets past bigfoot let him fight werdum then roidareem..finally if he can beat all of them...then let him rematch few-door.

on a side note if Ill never type this much on my lg dare again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i must say for some dumb reason I thought this article had Adam from the band tool commenting..lol I know..i&#8217;m sorry, I&#8217;m one of those people who require a helmet in public.</p>
<p>David pee-wee Herman is easily the hands down choice on that one. 25yrs old, 6&#8217;4 240lbs, ko power and still green enough that a proper camp to train at could do tremendous things to his skill set and for his career (think kos after going to aka). also after watching the current season of tuf and seeing the guys that may make it into the ufc I have no doubt in my mind pee-wee can win a few fights under the zuffa banner. I&#8217;d like to see a fight between Herman and todd duffee.</p>
<p>no Brett Rogers doesn&#8217;t earn a re-match asap?! why because he made fedor bleed? he is a bleeder.. some are some aren&#8217;t. honestly if Forrest or Nick Diaz or fedor aren&#8217;t bleeding in a fight the bell hasn&#8217;t rung yet.</p>
<p>strikeforce event? 6.5 solely because I could not stand Gus Johnson and his dumb robotic announcer voice. but it got an extra 1.5pts for mayhems entrance. </p>
<p>gegard and lyoto? I&#8217;m sorry but as dominant as he has been you could tell that Soku was frustrating him alot when gegard wasn&#8217;t in complete control. I feel he is best when he is the dominant one and needs to be in control to find his &#8220;riddum&#8221; in the ring. with that said machida is too good at what he does and I see mousasi getting frustrated and straying from the gameplan and getting taken out by machida the superior striker.</p>
<p>as for swick or hardy vs gsp? Although I love hardy I see swick as the larger threat but I also forsee that fight looking alot like the alves fight. a tactical dismantling of an excellent fighter. with that said I need rumble to make weight win two fights then hopefully we can see rumble and gsp. if gsp defends his belt twice more I feel he should take on a new challenge and fight at mw. because he is making the ww division boring at the moment. lol</p>
<p>lastly let Brett Rogers put a beating on the Maine-iac Tim Sylvia because I think that man is a douche then let Rogers fight bigfoot. if he gets past bigfoot let him fight werdum then roidareem..finally if he can beat all of them&#8230;then let him rematch few-door.</p>
<p>on a side note if Ill never type this much on my lg dare again.</p>
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		<title>By: Pajamashark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pajamashark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jak

It&#039;s a reference to the movie The Warriors (1979) which is a hard hitting look at gang-violence known for its nuanced and historically accurate exploration of racial tensions.

Also, it means Brendhan is old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jak</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a reference to the movie The Warriors (1979) which is a hard hitting look at gang-violence known for its nuanced and historically accurate exploration of racial tensions.</p>
<p>Also, it means Brendhan is old.</p>
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		<title>By: fanoftna33</title>
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		<dc:creator>fanoftna33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After seeing Hermans last 2 fights end with him getting the ko I think the ufc should give him a chance, if he does well great if not let him go back to Japan.
Rogers did well ve Fedor but in no way deserves a rematch, a fight with Bigfoot or Sylvia would be a great rebound fight for him and hopefully he can get back to knocking people out.
Machida would probably beat Mousasi but I think it would be a great fight as Mousasi showed great toughness against Soko in the first round, as we all know Soko is a handfull for anybody for about 5 min.
I think Swick would fare much better against GSP only becauce of his heighth and the fact that he trains with two guys who went 7 rounds with him and they can be tremendous help to his training for that fight.
Lastly I would probably give up mma for good if it meant seeing the match between Gina and Arianny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After seeing Hermans last 2 fights end with him getting the ko I think the ufc should give him a chance, if he does well great if not let him go back to Japan.<br />
Rogers did well ve Fedor but in no way deserves a rematch, a fight with Bigfoot or Sylvia would be a great rebound fight for him and hopefully he can get back to knocking people out.<br />
Machida would probably beat Mousasi but I think it would be a great fight as Mousasi showed great toughness against Soko in the first round, as we all know Soko is a handfull for anybody for about 5 min.<br />
I think Swick would fare much better against GSP only becauce of his heighth and the fact that he trains with two guys who went 7 rounds with him and they can be tremendous help to his training for that fight.<br />
Lastly I would probably give up mma for good if it meant seeing the match between Gina and Arianny</p>
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		<title>By: Jak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting Article.. i don&#039;t know the point of starting it off with &quot;keyboard warriors&quot; crap, but whatever.

I rarely say that a single fight &quot;exposes&quot; a fighter, but in relation to Dave Herman, i think it&#039;s pretty accurate. He fights and KTFO a lot of lesser fighters, but when he stepped up to mid tier competition, he got royally exposed.

It&#039;s great that he can ko guys in the first round, but that really showed he needs to work on a full 3 rounds of a fight. Maybe he has, but i would like to see it before he gets fed to a big wrestler that&#039;s going to drag him down and grind him out for 3 rounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting Article.. i don&#8217;t know the point of starting it off with &#8220;keyboard warriors&#8221; crap, but whatever.</p>
<p>I rarely say that a single fight &#8220;exposes&#8221; a fighter, but in relation to Dave Herman, i think it&#8217;s pretty accurate. He fights and KTFO a lot of lesser fighters, but when he stepped up to mid tier competition, he got royally exposed.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that he can ko guys in the first round, but that really showed he needs to work on a full 3 rounds of a fight. Maybe he has, but i would like to see it before he gets fed to a big wrestler that&#8217;s going to drag him down and grind him out for 3 rounds.</p>
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