Comments on: The Calm Before The Storm: UFC 106 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/21/the-calm-before-the-storm-ufc-106/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 27 May 2012 02:02:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: bigbadjohn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/21/the-calm-before-the-storm-ufc-106/comment-page-1/#comment-133963 bigbadjohn Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:48:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19177#comment-133963 Ugh. I fogot what it feels like to drop 60 bones on an event after the 105 and SF shows. Oh well, with a couple extra people it will probably end up being cheaper than watching it at the pub, especially if I want to drink more than a couple... I've heard Dana talk about exploring network deals, I wonder if UFC could ever abandon PPVs all together? Ugh. I fogot what it feels like to drop 60 bones on an event after the 105 and SF shows. Oh well, with a couple extra people it will probably end up being cheaper than watching it at the pub, especially if I want to drink more than a couple…

I’ve heard Dana talk about exploring network deals, I wonder if UFC could ever abandon PPVs all together?

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]]> By: CatchWrestling101 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/21/the-calm-before-the-storm-ufc-106/comment-page-1/#comment-133959 CatchWrestling101 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:05:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19177#comment-133959 Guy, if you don't think this card is worth $60.00 don't even look at the ones coming up. UFC 107......ok card but I don't even want to talk about UFC 108. Lets just say the only way I would watch this is if it was free on Spike!!!! Guy, if you don’t think this card is worth $60.00 don’t even look at the ones coming up. UFC 107……ok card but I don’t even want to talk about UFC 108. Lets just say the only way I would watch this is if it was free on Spike!!!!

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]]> By: nate http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/21/the-calm-before-the-storm-ufc-106/comment-page-1/#comment-133956 nate Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:14:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19177#comment-133956 make - i also agree with the amount of upper cuts he threw he didnt land many..however how many overhand rights did kos try and miss? all im saying is on that night an unknown supposed submission guy out struck a top rated striker. factor in it was that mans ufc debut against a man that by all means on paper should have mauled him. im not detracting anything from kos i love him is great has a long great career ahead of him. i just wanted to express my added respect for a guy i felt had everything in the world against him perform exceptionally that night. i just dont feel he should be written off yet. make – i also agree with the amount of upper cuts he threw he didnt land many..however how many overhand rights did kos try and miss? all im saying is on that night an unknown supposed submission guy out struck a top rated striker. factor in it was that mans ufc debut against a man that by all means on paper should have mauled him. im not detracting anything from kos i love him is great has a long great career ahead of him. i just wanted to express my added respect for a guy i felt had everything in the world against him perform exceptionally that night. i just dont feel he should be written off yet.

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]]> By: Guy Gaduois http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/21/the-calm-before-the-storm-ufc-106/comment-page-1/#comment-133955 Guy Gaduois Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:00:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19177#comment-133955 It seems pretty evident that Forrest needs to go back to staffing his fight prep to the same game planning that went into his fight with Quittin Jackson. He was a tight, efficient fighter in that, more patient than I'd seen him in the past. I don't know for sure, but I thought I'd heard he'd worked quite a bit with Randy before that fight. Forrest needs to get back to that style and planning. While Tito and Forrest have the same win/loss record, Forrest's fight resume is much more suspect than Tito's. Without better fight planning, we've seen the best Forrest has to offer and it's all down hill from here. Tito's fight against Machida is actually one of the better showings against Machida. Until Rua, there hadn't been a better game plan going against Machida. Tito looked slow and less than explosive, but Machida had made everyone look like they were moving in mud. If the reports of Tito's health at that point are to be believed, Tito at closer to 100% could have made that fight very, very interesting. Tito's going to have to deal with re-acclimating himself to the Octagon, but if he's hesitant in the first and lets Forrest out of the first round, it can be a great fight. If Forrest slow starts again, Tito could finish this up early and Forrest will become more ambassador for the sport than competitor. I don't believe the UFC would ever jettison Forrest, but he could be relegated to "Oh remember him when" status with a loss. If Johnson only has a couple more fights at Welter, he'd like to fight GSP sooner than later. I just wonder if all the exigencies will align to allow that fight. If he loses tonight and has to rebuild, I agree that it would be best to rebuild in the Middleweight division where his length and speed would be very compelling. Good card tonight, just not $60 worth for me. Going to the pizza place and nurse a brew. Watch with the j-holes assembled there. I freaking hate that, but Obama doesn't seem to want to bail out my PPV Fund. It seems pretty evident that Forrest needs to go back to staffing his fight prep to the same game planning that went into his fight with Quittin Jackson. He was a tight, efficient fighter in that, more patient than I’d seen him in the past. I don’t know for sure, but I thought I’d heard he’d worked quite a bit with Randy before that fight.
Forrest needs to get back to that style and planning.
While Tito and Forrest have the same win/loss record, Forrest’s fight resume is much more suspect than Tito’s. Without better fight planning, we’ve seen the best Forrest has to offer and it’s all down hill from here.
Tito’s fight against Machida is actually one of the better showings against Machida. Until Rua, there hadn’t been a better game plan going against Machida. Tito looked slow and less than explosive, but Machida had made everyone look like they were moving in mud. If the reports of Tito’s health at that point are to be believed, Tito at closer to 100% could have made that fight very, very interesting.
Tito’s going to have to deal with re-acclimating himself to the Octagon, but if he’s hesitant in the first and lets Forrest out of the first round, it can be a great fight. If Forrest slow starts again, Tito could finish this up early and Forrest will become more ambassador for the sport than competitor. I don’t believe the UFC would ever jettison Forrest, but he could be relegated to “Oh remember him when” status with a loss.

If Johnson only has a couple more fights at Welter, he’d like to fight GSP sooner than later. I just wonder if all the exigencies will align to allow that fight. If he loses tonight and has to rebuild, I agree that it would be best to rebuild in the Middleweight division where his length and speed would be very compelling.

Good card tonight, just not $60 worth for me. Going to the pizza place and nurse a brew. Watch with the j-holes assembled there. I freaking hate that, but Obama doesn’t seem to want to bail out my PPV Fund.

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]]> By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/21/the-calm-before-the-storm-ufc-106/comment-page-1/#comment-133953 Makington Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:23:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19177#comment-133953 You make valid points nate, but I disagree with your disagreement. I think Paulo's KO was less actual striking skill and more 'anything can happen in MMA with those little gloves.' You have to remember this was his lone KO in his career and he was getting absolutely picked apart all the while leading up to it. Kos loves to go with a haymaker overhand right, to the point where he is predictable with it. Paulo tried the same uppercut quite a few times before it landed. He couldn't really land that punch on many other fighters. It was a smart move by Paulo but he showed so many cracks in his stand up before he landed the one punch he could land. For instance, he had very poor footwork and only moved vertical to his opponent instead of lateral. He dropped his hands to his waist after almost every punch. I hold fast to my belief that people are looking over Paulo's striking with good reason. I'd be worried about his ground game. Props to him for landing a big shot, but I attribute it to luck rather than pure striking skill. You make valid points nate, but I disagree with your disagreement. I think Paulo’s KO was less actual striking skill and more ‘anything can happen in MMA with those little gloves.’ You have to remember this was his lone KO in his career and he was getting absolutely picked apart all the while leading up to it. Kos loves to go with a haymaker overhand right, to the point where he is predictable with it. Paulo tried the same uppercut quite a few times before it landed. He couldn’t really land that punch on many other fighters. It was a smart move by Paulo but he showed so many cracks in his stand up before he landed the one punch he could land. For instance, he had very poor footwork and only moved vertical to his opponent instead of lateral. He dropped his hands to his waist after almost every punch. I hold fast to my belief that people are looking over Paulo’s striking with good reason. I’d be worried about his ground game. Props to him for landing a big shot, but I attribute it to luck rather than pure striking skill.

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]]> By: Dufresne http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/21/the-calm-before-the-storm-ufc-106/comment-page-1/#comment-133952 Dufresne Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:20:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19177#comment-133952 I agree that the shot Thiago landed wasn't a fluke, my problem with that fight was the ref stopping the fight as soon as he did. I know the number one job of the ref is to ensure fighter safety, but it appeared to me that Kos recovered extremely quickly and it seems like he was not given much of a chance to show that he could intelligently defended himself. I agree that the shot Thiago landed wasn’t a fluke, my problem with that fight was the ref stopping the fight as soon as he did. I know the number one job of the ref is to ensure fighter safety, but it appeared to me that Kos recovered extremely quickly and it seems like he was not given much of a chance to show that he could intelligently defended himself.

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]]> By: nate http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/21/the-calm-before-the-storm-ufc-106/comment-page-1/#comment-133951 nate Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:06:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19177#comment-133951 cory another great article and i agree with everything you write most of the time but there is one topic id like to touch on if i may. Paulo Thiago. id like to talk about the kos ko.. first we all know Thiago was brought in an unknown feeder mouse for the fast rising kos (who as you pointed out & i agree kos is a top 10 ww striker.) now let me make it clear i was shocked & pissed when kos got dropped and i as well thought it HAD to be a fluke etc. etc. however after re-watching the fight i respectfully disagree about the notion that is was luck and more or less a perfectly timed and placed counter-punch. his eyes were open, feet planted. and twisted his hips into a powerful uppercut. taken in the context that it wasnt a fluke that makes Thiago a very underrated a lethal striker. given that train of thought i think voelkmann will have his hands full. granted my actual knowledge on voelkmann is slim i dont know what to expect i just feel paulo thiago deserves more credit than he gets. matt serras win over gsp was luck. unfortunately for me & other kos fans thiagos' win was more than luck. cory another great article and i agree with everything you write most of the time but there is one topic id like to touch on if i may. Paulo Thiago. id like to talk about the kos ko.. first we all know Thiago was brought in an unknown feeder mouse for the fast rising kos (who as you pointed out & i agree kos is a top 10 ww striker.) now let me make it clear i was shocked & pissed when kos got dropped and i as well thought it HAD to be a fluke etc. etc. however after re-watching the fight i respectfully disagree about the notion that is was luck and more or less a perfectly timed and placed counter-punch. his eyes were open, feet planted. and twisted his hips into a powerful uppercut. taken in the context that it wasnt a fluke that makes Thiago a very underrated a lethal striker. given that train of thought i think voelkmann will have his hands full. granted my actual knowledge on voelkmann is slim i dont know what to expect i just feel paulo thiago deserves more credit than he gets. matt serras win over gsp was luck. unfortunately for me & other kos fans thiagos’ win was more than luck.

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