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	<title>Comments on: Gabriel Gonzaga out of UFC 108 bout with Junior dos Santos</title>
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		<title>By: superdavenorcal</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdavenorcal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say JDS vs. Carwin....say what you will but Cain still hasnt really made me think Champion yet. I wanna see him and Nog go at it. we&#039;ll see how Cain handles someone that&#039;s BJJ is better than his wrestling.  Plus we know JDS and Nog wont fight...They&#039;re both Black House guys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say JDS vs. Carwin&#8230;.say what you will but Cain still hasnt really made me think Champion yet. I wanna see him and Nog go at it. we&#8217;ll see how Cain handles someone that&#8217;s BJJ is better than his wrestling.  Plus we know JDS and Nog wont fight&#8230;They&#8217;re both Black House guys</p>
<p>Agree or Disagree: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-134623" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134623', 'add', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <span id="karma-134623-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">2</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-134623" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134623', 'subtract', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <span id="karma-134623-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: KTru</title>
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		<dc:creator>KTru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as it makes sense to pit Cain against JDS, it also hurts the near-future as well.

Having two of the most intriguing and prominent fighters come in to a &quot;Contenders&quot; match will derail one of them for a chance at a title shot.
Whomever loses will fall down the ladder and may never get another opportunity anytime soon. The UFC, in a perfect world, would have rather seen both get there chances for future headlining shows. We do not live in a perfect world. Also throwing Carwin into the mix where he was to fight Cain, would have been the same scenario. 

I do not have a solution, but hopefully Joe Silva does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as it makes sense to pit Cain against JDS, it also hurts the near-future as well.</p>
<p>Having two of the most intriguing and prominent fighters come in to a &#8220;Contenders&#8221; match will derail one of them for a chance at a title shot.<br />
Whomever loses will fall down the ladder and may never get another opportunity anytime soon. The UFC, in a perfect world, would have rather seen both get there chances for future headlining shows. We do not live in a perfect world. Also throwing Carwin into the mix where he was to fight Cain, would have been the same scenario. </p>
<p>I do not have a solution, but hopefully Joe Silva does.</p>
<p>Agree or Disagree: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-134563" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134563', 'add', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <span id="karma-134563-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">3</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-134563" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134563', 'subtract', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <span id="karma-134563-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: thunder okami</title>
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		<dc:creator>thunder okami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>108 really got screwed over</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#dde4de !important"><p>108 really got screwed over</p>
</div><p>Well-Done.  <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-134542" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134542', 'add', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <span id="karma-134542-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">13</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-134542" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134542', 'subtract', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <span id="karma-134542-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: xtreme_machine</title>
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		<dc:creator>xtreme_machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if they win their fights

Mir vs Nogueira II</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#dde4de !important"><p>And if they win their fights</p>
<p>Mir vs Nogueira II</p>
</div><p>Well-Done.  <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-134540" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134540', 'add', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <span id="karma-134540-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">11</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-134540" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134540', 'subtract', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <span id="karma-134540-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: xtreme_machine</title>
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		<dc:creator>xtreme_machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dos Santos vs Cain Velasquez 

Then 
Gonzaga vs Nogueira

and finally
Lesnar vs Carwin

Mir vs Cro Cop</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dos Santos vs Cain Velasquez </p>
<p>Then<br />
Gonzaga vs Nogueira</p>
<p>and finally<br />
Lesnar vs Carwin</p>
<p>Mir vs Cro Cop</p>
<p>Agree or Disagree: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-134539" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134539', 'add', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <span id="karma-134539-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">9</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-134539" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134539', 'subtract', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <span id="karma-134539-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: cocoonofhorror</title>
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		<dc:creator>cocoonofhorror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the lack of quality HW matchups in the near future is very disturbing to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the lack of quality HW matchups in the near future is very disturbing to me.</p>
<p>Agree or Disagree: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-134537" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134537', 'add', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <span id="karma-134537-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">7</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-134537" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134537', 'subtract', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <span id="karma-134537-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">2</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rich S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the deal with Dos Santos?

He comes in and knocks out then-#1 contender (if I remember correctly), Werdum. 
Then, he fights a total newcomer to the UFC, Struve... That, I can pardon, maybe they just wanted to see if his win over Werdum was a fluke.. After that domination he goes on to dismantle and ultimately move Cro Cop into retirement (temporarily?). 

Maybe they&#039;re just trying to build up his Highlight Reel, but those wins alone are better than any of the other title contenders&#039; right now..

Here&#039;s the picture:

Shane Carwin - Took out Christian Wellisch in debut. Took a step down in competition and fought Neil Wain.. Then, came back from the brink of defeat and KO&#039;d Gonzaga.

Cain Velasquez - Took out the now LHW Jake O&#039;Brien. Notable victories = The off-and-on Cheick Kongo, and Ben Rothwell.

Junior Dos Santos - Beat two all time greats, Werdum and Cro Cop, in devastating fashion, and destroyed another up-and-comer in Struve.

Honestly, with those stats, I think we should be seeing Dos Santos vs. Cain Velasquez for the interim belt..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#dde4de !important"><p>What&#8217;s the deal with Dos Santos?</p>
<p>He comes in and knocks out then-#1 contender (if I remember correctly), Werdum.<br />
Then, he fights a total newcomer to the UFC, Struve&#8230; That, I can pardon, maybe they just wanted to see if his win over Werdum was a fluke.. After that domination he goes on to dismantle and ultimately move Cro Cop into retirement (temporarily?). </p>
<p>Maybe they&#8217;re just trying to build up his Highlight Reel, but those wins alone are better than any of the other title contenders&#8217; right now..</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the picture:</p>
<p>Shane Carwin &#8211; Took out Christian Wellisch in debut. Took a step down in competition and fought Neil Wain.. Then, came back from the brink of defeat and KO&#8217;d Gonzaga.</p>
<p>Cain Velasquez &#8211; Took out the now LHW Jake O&#8217;Brien. Notable victories = The off-and-on Cheick Kongo, and Ben Rothwell.</p>
<p>Junior Dos Santos &#8211; Beat two all time greats, Werdum and Cro Cop, in devastating fashion, and destroyed another up-and-comer in Struve.</p>
<p>Honestly, with those stats, I think we should be seeing Dos Santos vs. Cain Velasquez for the interim belt..</p>
</div><p>Well-Done.  <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-134534" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134534', 'add', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <span id="karma-134534-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">19</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-134534" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134534', 'subtract', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <span id="karma-134534-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">3</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: danw84</title>
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		<dc:creator>danw84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree nate, maybe Velasquez can fight Dos Santos here? Both were supposed to be on this card anyway, just different opponents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree nate, maybe Velasquez can fight Dos Santos here? Both were supposed to be on this card anyway, just different opponents.</p>
<p>Agree or Disagree: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-134527" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134527', 'add', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <span id="karma-134527-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">6</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-134527" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134527', 'subtract', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <span id="karma-134527-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats sucks. dos santos vs todd duffee? paul buentello? andre arlovski? all fights id love to see. id really love to see dos santos vs velasquez for winner of carwin brock? i really hope they dont make another interim belt but its also a long wait. i do not envy joe silva at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#dde4de !important"><p>thats sucks. dos santos vs todd duffee? paul buentello? andre arlovski? all fights id love to see. id really love to see dos santos vs velasquez for winner of carwin brock? i really hope they dont make another interim belt but its also a long wait. i do not envy joe silva at the moment.</p>
</div><p>Well-Done.  <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-134522" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134522', 'add', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <span id="karma-134522-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">12</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-134522" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134522', 'subtract', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <span id="karma-134522-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: fanoftna33</title>
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		<dc:creator>fanoftna33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gonzaga didnt want any part of Dos Santos anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hidden due to low <a href="http://wealthynetizen.com/wordpress-plugin-comment-rating/" title="Rated by other readers">comment rating</a>. <a href="javascript:crSwitchDisplay('ckhide-134519');" title="Click to see comment">Click here to see</a>.</p><div id='ckhide-134519' style="display:none; opacity:0.4;filter:alpha(opacity=50) !important;"><p>Gonzaga didnt want any part of Dos Santos anyway.</p>
</div><p>Weak-Sauce.  <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-134519" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134519', 'add', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="" /> <span id="karma-134519-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">4</span>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-134519" src="http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('134519', 'subtract', 'fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="" /> <span id="karma-134519-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">17</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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