Comments on: Josh Koscheck vs. Paulo Thiago rematch likely for UFC 109 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 27 May 2012 02:02:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135090 Makington Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:11:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135090 <blockquote cite="comment-135060"> <strong><a href="#comment-135060" rel="nofollow">fanoftna33</a></strong>: One thing I would like to see after this fight( if Kos wins) is Kos getting a title shot but having GSP vs Kos on the next season of TUF, instead of Tito and Forrest. </blockquote> Although TUF is a great way of building hype for the fight, I don't like that idea. The champs are already mostly injured, and I'd hate to see the WW belt tied up for 8 months for the show. Also, GSP is too nice of a guy to make it really entertaining. Admit it fellas, we love when they get in eachothers faces and try every episode to derail the other (Rampage/Rashad) Kos would be very fun to watch on the show, since you KNOW he would try to get under GSP's skin, but it probably wouldn't happen. I would love, however, to see the arguments him and Dan Hardy would get into if they were coaches. I don't believe Hardy is in any way deserving of coaching but they'd make a good show together.

fanoftna33: One thing I would like to see after this fight( if Kos wins) is Kos getting a title shot but having GSP vs Kos on the next season of TUF, instead of Tito and Forrest.

Although TUF is a great way of building hype for the fight, I don’t like that idea. The champs are already mostly injured, and I’d hate to see the WW belt tied up for 8 months for the show. Also, GSP is too nice of a guy to make it really entertaining. Admit it fellas, we love when they get in eachothers faces and try every episode to derail the other (Rampage/Rashad) Kos would be very fun to watch on the show, since you KNOW he would try to get under GSP’s skin, but it probably wouldn’t happen.

I would love, however, to see the arguments him and Dan Hardy would get into if they were coaches. I don’t believe Hardy is in any way deserving of coaching but they’d make a good show together.

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135060 fanoftna33 Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:02:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135060 One thing I would like to see after this fight( if Kos wins) is Kos getting a title shot but having GSP vs Kos on the next season of TUF, instead of Tito and Forrest. One thing I would like to see after this fight( if Kos wins) is Kos getting a title shot but having GSP vs Kos on the next season of TUF, instead of Tito and Forrest.

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]]> By: Beau Fury http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135057 Beau Fury Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:06:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135057 I think that, while not a fluke, Thiago's TKO of Koscheck was very unexpected... I do believe that there is no way Koscheck looses this rematch. I think Koscheck will come out and either beat Thiago on the ground or try and KO him as payback!!! I think that, while not a fluke, Thiago’s TKO of Koscheck was very unexpected… I do believe that there is no way Koscheck looses this rematch. I think Koscheck will come out and either beat Thiago on the ground or try and KO him as payback!!!

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]]> By: FightFan313 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135040 FightFan313 Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:03:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135040 Kos won't make the same mistake. Kos by KO or submission in the second. Kos won’t make the same mistake. Kos by KO or submission in the second.

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]]> By: matt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135035 matt Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:47:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135035 <blockquote cite="comment-135009"> <strong><a href="#comment-135009" rel="nofollow">xtreme_machine</a></strong>: i meant TWO fightsin addition Frank Trigg is DONEand Johnson is too GREEN </blockquote> Trigg might not be the same he was years ago, and johnson might be a little green, but both of those guys would beat Gono, Markham, Davis, and possibly Swick. Kos has fought the better competition and has the better overall skill set. Im not saying I want to see Kos get the shot over Hardy, im just saying that I dont think that Hardy deserves a title shot. Hardy has not beaten any top contenders as I dont believe Swick was a top contender. Personally with the bad blood boiling between the two, I would love to see them fight, I believe Kos would take him down and maul him until the ref pulled him off but Hardy is one of the rare welterweights in the UFC who has a good record and has yet to fight GSP.

xtreme_machine: i meant TWO fightsin addition Frank Trigg is DONEand Johnson is too GREEN

Trigg might not be the same he was years ago, and johnson might be a little green, but both of those guys would beat Gono, Markham, Davis, and possibly Swick. Kos has fought the better competition and has the better overall skill set. Im not saying I want to see Kos get the shot over Hardy, im just saying that I dont think that Hardy deserves a title shot. Hardy has not beaten any top contenders as I dont believe Swick was a top contender. Personally with the bad blood boiling between the two, I would love to see them fight, I believe Kos would take him down and maul him until the ref pulled him off but Hardy is one of the rare welterweights in the UFC who has a good record and has yet to fight GSP.

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]]> By: moosebaby02 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135034 moosebaby02 Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:37:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135034 I dont like kos. the first fight between these two was kos kicking the crap out of Thiago and then getting clipped Makington i couldnt agree with you more on all your points. to be God in this situation would be great xtreme as much as this article has nothing to do with Hardy I will address that yes 4-0 in the UFC with one decsion win and TWO split decsion wins and one ko over a nobody Markham dosent mean you should get a title shot. kos was wrong with his comments from his point of view at the time but from a logic point of view he is damn right. plus in the big picture of it all it will sell tickets in the long run so you wont see the UFC crying any time soon. with all the guys that were going down hardy was just in the right place in the right time for the fat cats to make some cash before the put GSP vs Fitch Alves and Kos part 2. put this way Ben Saunders is 4-1 in the UFC and finshes fights. it still be a good fight to watch. like i said before....every champion needs a tune up fight after an ingury. Back to Kos. He will keep it standing like last time but will put an end to this one this time. Ya Thaigo has bjj but from what i saw from kos vs rumble is that kos is really really good at wrestling. Kos by ko in the 2nd I dont like kos. the first fight between these two was kos kicking the crap out of Thiago and then getting clipped

Makington i couldnt agree with you more on all your points. to be God in this situation would be great
xtreme
as much as this article has nothing to do with Hardy I will address that yes 4-0 in the UFC with one decsion win and TWO split decsion wins and one ko over a nobody Markham dosent mean you should get a title shot. kos was wrong with his comments from his point of view at the time but from a logic point of view he is damn right. plus in the big picture of it all it will sell tickets in the long run so you wont see the UFC crying any time soon. with all the guys that were going down hardy was just in the right place in the right time for the fat cats to make some cash before the put GSP vs Fitch Alves and Kos part 2. put this way Ben Saunders is 4-1 in the UFC and finshes fights. it still be a good fight to watch. like i said before….every champion needs a tune up fight after an ingury.
Back to Kos. He will keep it standing like last time but will put an end to this one this time. Ya Thaigo has bjj but from what i saw from kos vs rumble is that kos is really really good at wrestling.
Kos by ko in the 2nd

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135030 Rich S. Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:26:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135030 If this fight goes anything like the last one did, Koscheck will win via Knockout. We all know he got clipped, but leading up to that, Thiago's shots were slow and telegraphed, and Kos was doing whatever he wanted on the feet.. Kos' wrestling is amazing, and it should keep him from getting submitted, but if anyone in this division CAN submit him, it's Paulo Thiago.. Assuming this fight goes to the ground, although I doubt it will, Kos really needs to be careful.. If this fight goes anything like the last one did, Koscheck will win via Knockout.
We all know he got clipped, but leading up to that, Thiago’s shots were slow and telegraphed, and Kos was doing whatever he wanted on the feet..

Kos’ wrestling is amazing, and it should keep him from getting submitted, but if anyone in this division CAN submit him, it’s Paulo Thiago.. Assuming this fight goes to the ground, although I doubt it will, Kos really needs to be careful..

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]]> By: Dufresne http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135025 Dufresne Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:35:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135025 I don't think that the first fight was a fluke, I think that the ref stopped the fight too early. Kos definitely got caught and went down pretty hard, but he was not out or not defending himself. He was sitting up with his hands at the ready to stop anything, but if I remember right, it was a fairly new ref and he jumped in immediately and stopped it. This time I see the fight going a bit differently as both fighters have matured and grown in the game. I think Kos will be a little more careful with Thiago's unorthodox standup, and may even try taking him to the ground. If it does end up on the ground, Kos will have to be very careful to avoid submissions. We've seen him power out of several, but it only takes one mistake at this level to end your night. I don’t think that the first fight was a fluke, I think that the ref stopped the fight too early.

Kos definitely got caught and went down pretty hard, but he was not out or not defending himself. He was sitting up with his hands at the ready to stop anything, but if I remember right, it was a fairly new ref and he jumped in immediately and stopped it.

This time I see the fight going a bit differently as both fighters have matured and grown in the game. I think Kos will be a little more careful with Thiago’s unorthodox standup, and may even try taking him to the ground. If it does end up on the ground, Kos will have to be very careful to avoid submissions. We’ve seen him power out of several, but it only takes one mistake at this level to end your night.

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]]> By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135022 Makington Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:27:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135022 <blockquote cite="comment-135017"> <strong><a href="#comment-135017" rel="nofollow">xtreme_machine</a></strong>: What are you talking about dude? </blockquote> Type powerthirst in youtube. When you capitalize every last word in your sentence it sounds like that guy to me. Not an insult, I just thought it was funny.

xtreme_machine:
What are you talking about dude?

Type powerthirst in youtube. When you capitalize every last word in your sentence it sounds like that guy to me. Not an insult, I just thought it was funny.

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]]> By: benjammin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135018 benjammin Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:19:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135018 is it really going to come down to fitch, alves, or kos against gsp again? theres got to be someone out there who can test him that hasnt already had a chance is it really going to come down to fitch, alves, or kos against gsp again? theres got to be someone out there who can test him that hasnt already had a chance

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]]> By: xtreme_machine http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135017 xtreme_machine Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:18:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135017 <blockquote cite="comment-135011"> <strong><a href="#comment-135011" rel="nofollow">Makington</a></strong>: Everytime I read the way you type, I can only picture you saying it the way the popular Powerthirst commercials on youtube say it. Check em out. They’re pretty entertaining. </blockquote> What are you talking about dude?

Makington:
Everytime I read the way you type, I can only picture you saying it the way the popular Powerthirst commercials on youtube say it. Check em out. They’re pretty entertaining.

What are you talking about dude?

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]]> By: benjammin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135016 benjammin Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:17:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135016 <blockquote cite="comment-135013"> <strong><a href="#comment-135013" rel="nofollow">edub</a></strong>: However I also believe that GSP-Hardy is a good fight in that Hardy beat the number 1 contender in his last bout and is still undefeated in the UFC. </blockquote> do you think hardy will have a chance as soon as gsp takes him down? which will most likely happen in the first two minutes at most

edub: However I also believe that GSP-Hardy is a good fight in that Hardy beat the number 1 contender in his last bout and is still undefeated in the UFC.

do you think hardy will have a chance as soon as gsp takes him down? which will most likely happen in the first two minutes at most

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135015 edub Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:16:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135015 Oh and Thiago hits really hard. He's a bit akward too so Kosheck needs to watch out the entire fight. Still... Kos by TKO and setting up a fight with the winner of Fitch vs. Alves(If Fitch gets passed Pierce) for the next #1 contender. Oh and Thiago hits really hard. He’s a bit akward too so Kosheck needs to watch out the entire fight.

Still…

Kos by TKO and setting up a fight with the winner of Fitch vs. Alves(If Fitch gets passed Pierce) for the next #1 contender.

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]]> By: benjammin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135014 benjammin Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:15:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135014 its not on this article but does anyone think that kongo will defeat mir? i hope mir breaks bones Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135013 edub Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:13:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135013 Frank Trigg, Yoshiyuki Yoshida, and Anthony Johnson are better wins IMO than Swick, Gono, Davis, and Markham. Although I believe Swick is the best of the bunch on a good day I believe he wasn't himself against Hardy. Then again maybe he was just exposed a little bit. In saying that I believe that a fighter has the right to call out anyone he wants if he feels he could back it up. They just have to pick there spots..(stuff like Efrain Escudero calling out BJ would only make Efrain look stupid if he did it after his next win). However I also believe that GSP-Hardy is a good fight in that Hardy beat the number 1 contender in his last bout and is still undefeated in the UFC. Frank Trigg, Yoshiyuki Yoshida, and Anthony Johnson are better wins IMO than Swick, Gono, Davis, and Markham. Although I believe Swick is the best of the bunch on a good day I believe he wasn’t himself against Hardy. Then again maybe he was just exposed a little bit.

In saying that I believe that a fighter has the right to call out anyone he wants if he feels he could back it up. They just have to pick there spots..(stuff like Efrain Escudero calling out BJ would only make Efrain look stupid if he did it after his next win). However I also believe that GSP-Hardy is a good fight in that Hardy beat the number 1 contender in his last bout and is still undefeated in the UFC.

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]]> By: benjammin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135012 benjammin Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:12:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135012 i like to watch kos fight but its more of a love to hate thing with me. i dont think he has a chance at gsp. that being said neither does hardy. but then again who does in that division? gotta give someone a shot to keep the ball rolling

i like to watch kos fight but its more of a love to hate thing with me. i dont think he has a chance at gsp. that being said neither does hardy. but then again who does in that division? gotta give someone a shot to keep the ball rolling

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]]> By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135011 Makington Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:12:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135011 <blockquote cite="comment-135009"> <strong><a href="#comment-135009" rel="nofollow">xtreme_machine</a></strong>: i meant TWO fightsin addition Frank Trigg is DONEand Johnson is too GREEN </blockquote> Everytime I read the way you type, I can only picture you saying it the way the popular Powerthirst commercials on youtube say it. Check em out. They're pretty entertaining.

xtreme_machine:
i meant TWO fightsin addition Frank Trigg is DONEand Johnson is too GREEN

Everytime I read the way you type, I can only picture you saying it the way the popular Powerthirst commercials on youtube say it. Check em out. They’re pretty entertaining.

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]]> By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135010 Makington Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:09:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135010 Man, Thiago is really having a rough introduction to the UFC. First he fights Koscheck, then he signs to fight Fitch, but it gets changed. After that he fights Volkmann, who although unknown had a lot of legitimate hype behind him. Now he is going to fight Kos again. That's a rough couple of fights I think. Now, if I were God, I would give Thiago the power to get the second and last knock out of his career, because it's funny and because Kos needs it. However, I am not God, and therefore what is supposed to happen probably will this time, which is Kos pounding out a decision. I wonder if Kos will try to make it a brawl again, to really send a message. I really don't think Thiago will win this time. Obviously you can say the old 'anything can happen in MMA' but that was the one time it really did happen. Man, Thiago is really having a rough introduction to the UFC. First he fights Koscheck, then he signs to fight Fitch, but it gets changed. After that he fights Volkmann, who although unknown had a lot of legitimate hype behind him. Now he is going to fight Kos again. That’s a rough couple of fights I think.

Now, if I were God, I would give Thiago the power to get the second and last knock out of his career, because it’s funny and because Kos needs it. However, I am not God, and therefore what is supposed to happen probably will this time, which is Kos pounding out a decision.

I wonder if Kos will try to make it a brawl again, to really send a message.

I really don’t think Thiago will win this time. Obviously you can say the old ‘anything can happen in MMA’ but that was the one time it really did happen.

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]]> By: xtreme_machine http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135009 xtreme_machine Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:02:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135009 <blockquote cite="comment-135008"> <strong><a href="#comment-135008" rel="nofollow">xtreme_machine</a></strong>: i hate that guy he wins to fights and he think he deserves the title shot </blockquote> i meant TWO fights in addition Frank Trigg is DONE and Johnson is too GREEN

xtreme_machine: i hate that guy he wins to fights and he think he deserves the title shot

i meant TWO fights

in addition Frank Trigg is DONE

and Johnson is too GREEN

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]]> By: xtreme_machine http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/01/josh-koscheck-vs-paulo-thiago-rematch-likely-for-ufc-109/comment-page-1/#comment-135008 xtreme_machine Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:59:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19469#comment-135008 i hope Thiago KOs him again i hate that guy he wins to fights and he think he deserves the title shot Hardy is riding a 7 fight wining streak UFC 4-0 beating Gono on his DEBUT and then Davis a tough guy to beat and OWNING MIke Swick (who has only lost twice in the UFC to future title conteders) plus Kos already got own by GSP and just like the UFC did to Hendo ad Nate if they want a rematch they REALLY have to work hard for it and it is going o take them longer Regardless i still think he would lose to GSP but he does have KO power and just like they say ANYTHING can happen with hose small gloves do not believe me just ask Kos

i hope Thiago KOs him again

i hate that guy he wins to fights and he think he deserves the title shot

Hardy is riding a 7 fight wining streak UFC 4-0

beating Gono on his DEBUT
and then Davis a tough guy to beat
and OWNING MIke Swick (who has only lost twice in the UFC to future title conteders)

plus Kos already got own by GSP and just like the UFC did to Hendo ad Nate
if they want a rematch they REALLY have to work hard for it and it is going o take them longer

Regardless i still think he would lose to GSP but he does have KO power
and just like they say ANYTHING can happen with hose small gloves
do not believe me just ask Kos

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