Comments on: Andrei Arlovski vs. Fabricio Werdum possible for Strikeforce http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 27 May 2012 02:34:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137282 Jstew3785 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:47:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137282 Arlovski was not the #2 HW in the world for nothing. The dude's got talent. Obviously there are some other issues but I for one cannot wait to see him fight again. I think this time off has been good for him and hopefully he'll come back stronger for it. I heard he was training with Greg Jackson, anyone know for sure if that is true? Arlovski was not the #2 HW in the world for nothing. The dude’s got talent. Obviously there are some other issues but I for one cannot wait to see him fight again. I think this time off has been good for him and hopefully he’ll come back stronger for it. I heard he was training with Greg Jackson, anyone know for sure if that is true?

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]]> By: neijia http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137253 neijia Tue, 15 Dec 2009 03:46:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137253 Will watch as well with no expectations. I really want to see AA come back though. The dude is good. He could use some sports/performance psych coaching (How about some Tony Robbins AA, lol? ... just not Diego's YES cartwheel) if he hasn't been doing that already. Will watch as well with no expectations. I really want to see AA come back though. The dude is good. He could use some sports/performance psych coaching (How about some Tony Robbins AA, lol? … just not Diego’s YES cartwheel) if he hasn’t been doing that already.

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]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137244 Angry Mike Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:39:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137244 Arlovski was defensive and fighting not to lose in the first match up. It was boring, and if I remember correctly, it was one of the fights that resuledt in him being cut from UFC. Losing twice in a row won't make him more aggessive, imo. And his chin seems to be getting worse, not better. I guess I'll watch this one, if it happens, with no expectations. If it turns out to be a good fight after all, it's a pleasant surprise. If it's another snoozer, then there's no disappointment. Arlovski was defensive and fighting not to lose in the first match up. It was boring, and if I remember correctly, it was one of the fights that resuledt in him being cut from UFC. Losing twice in a row won’t make him more aggessive, imo. And his chin seems to be getting worse, not better. I guess I’ll watch this one, if it happens, with no expectations. If it turns out to be a good fight after all, it’s a pleasant surprise. If it’s another snoozer, then there’s no disappointment.

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]]> By: Jak http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137224 Jak Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:13:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137224 <blockquote cite="comment-137191"> <strong><a href="#comment-137191" rel="nofollow">FightFan313</a></strong>: I don’t always look for excitement or knockouts during a fight but some of the finer technical work put in by fighters. </blockquote> There was no fine technical aspect of that fight. Arlovski was a former champ and Werdum was just coming as a high level contender from overseas, and they both fought like scared amateurs not wanting to lose. What aspect of "finer technical work" are b*tch slaps in a fight between to top veterans? Actually, nevermind.

FightFan313: I don’t always look for excitement or knockouts during a fight but some of the finer technical work put in by fighters.

There was no fine technical aspect of that fight. Arlovski was a former champ and Werdum was just coming as a high level contender from overseas, and they both fought like scared amateurs not wanting to lose.

What aspect of “finer technical work” are b*tch slaps in a fight between to top veterans?

Actually, nevermind.

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]]> By: FightFan313 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137191 FightFan313 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:33:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137191 <blockquote cite="comment-137128"> <strong><a href="#comment-137128" rel="nofollow">Nick Havok</a></strong>: I usually jump up in excitement when Strikeforce announces a fight (because they usually look to be good on paper)…but I just can’t with this one. I mean we have already seen these guys in what was widely remembered as a boring fight. What would be the point of doing it again? </blockquote> Nick..your cup is always half empty lol. The fight is free so why not watch. Werdum looked better in his last fight and I would like to see he Arlovski has developed a killer instinct. Either way this is still a learning fight for me. I just watched this fight again on the internet and for sure Arlovski didn't have a killer instinct but I saw some good exchanges in this fight and some very good countering from Arlovski. I don't always look for excitement or knockouts during a fight but some of the finer technical work put in by fighters.

Nick Havok: I usually jump up in excitement when Strikeforce announces a fight (because they usually look to be good on paper)…but I just can’t with this one.

I mean we have already seen these guys in what was widely remembered as a boring fight. What would be the point of doing it again?

Nick..your cup is always half empty lol.

The fight is free so why not watch. Werdum looked better in his last fight and I would like to see he Arlovski has developed a killer instinct. Either way this is still a learning fight for me.

I just watched this fight again on the internet and for sure Arlovski didn’t have a killer instinct but I saw some good exchanges in this fight and some very good countering from Arlovski. I don’t always look for excitement or knockouts during a fight but some of the finer technical work put in by fighters.

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137168 fanoftna33 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:48:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137168 Yeah thier ppv fight was really hard to watch espacially after all the build up, but some of the blame can be put on Deigo fighting with a pretty serious staph infection as that was probably his worst showing ever, and he is not a boring fighter. Yeah thier ppv fight was really hard to watch espacially after all the build up, but some of the blame can be put on Deigo fighting with a pretty serious staph infection as that was probably his worst showing ever, and he is not a boring fighter.

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]]> By: MacBatty http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137161 MacBatty Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:42:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137161 Hey TNA.....Yea your right the TUF fight did rock, I was thinking of that PPV debacle when both guys were fighting not to lose Hey TNA…..Yea your right the TUF fight did rock, I was thinking of that PPV debacle when both guys were fighting not to lose

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137159 fanoftna33 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:38:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137159 Macbatty did you acually see Diego vs Kos the first time they fought on tuf? That was a pretty exciting fight where they both left it all in the cage. I think you are thinking of thier first fight on ppv, and yes that one sucked, but I dont know anybody who thinks thier tuf fight sucked. Macbatty did you acually see Diego vs Kos the first time they fought on tuf? That was a pretty exciting fight where they both left it all in the cage. I think you are thinking of thier first fight on ppv, and yes that one sucked, but I dont know anybody who thinks thier tuf fight sucked.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137158 Rich S. Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:36:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137158 It'll be more interesting this time, for Werdum's striking is far better.. and Andrei pretty much has nothing to lose.. It’ll be more interesting this time, for Werdum’s striking is far better.. and Andrei pretty much has nothing to lose..

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]]> By: MacBatty http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137148 MacBatty Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:12:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137148 Although the first fight was boring that doesnt mean the 2nd one will follow the same formula. There are a couple of fights that sucked at first but, Id still like to see what would happen now....Like Diego Vs Kos......OK thats the only one I can think of right now but, you get my point! LOL Go Arlovski! Although the first fight was boring that doesnt mean the 2nd one will follow the same formula.

There are a couple of fights that sucked at first but, Id still like to see what would happen now….Like
Diego Vs Kos……OK thats the only one I can think of right now but, you get my point! LOL

Go Arlovski!

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]]> By: fetussandwich http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137146 fetussandwich Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:07:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137146 <blockquote cite="comment-137141"> <strong><a href="#comment-137141" rel="nofollow">Guthookd</a></strong>: AA is not quite what he once was. </blockquote> It has gotten to a point where I was afraid he would lose on Bully Beatdown.

Guthookd: AA is not quite what he once was.

It has gotten to a point where I was afraid he would lose on Bully Beatdown.

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]]> By: shocbomb http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137145 shocbomb Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:04:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137145 Why on earth would I or anyone want to watch these 2 fight again in what was one of the most boring fights to this date I ever seen with 2 top HW's facing off. It made Sylvia vs Arlovski 3 look like a barn burner. Please does any one not remember the train wreck that was there first fight ? It was a mix between slap boxing on Werdums part and and Arlovski who was afraid of the take down who did nothing but circle and throw a leg kick every now and then and the occasional Jab. I don't understand why strike Force would even consider this rematch out of all the HW's they could give Arlovski for his first fight ? MATCH MAKING AT ITS WORST

Why on earth would I or anyone want to watch these 2 fight again in what was one of the most boring fights to this date I ever seen with 2 top HW’s facing off. It made Sylvia vs Arlovski 3 look like a barn burner. Please does any one not remember the train wreck that was there first fight ? It was a mix between slap boxing on Werdums part and and Arlovski who was afraid of the take down who did nothing but circle and throw a leg kick every now and then and the occasional Jab. I don’t understand why strike Force would even consider this rematch out of all the HW’s they could give Arlovski for his first fight ? MATCH MAKING AT ITS WORST

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]]> By: Guthookd http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137141 Guthookd Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:56:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137141 The situation doesn't exactly lend itself to a major change in the way the first fight went down. Like before, Andrei is coming off of nasty losses and will no doubt be excercising extreme caution so as to avoid being let go from yet another organization. I hate to say it, but I am not too stoked about this fight. AA is not quite what he once was. The situation doesn’t exactly lend itself to a major change in the way the first fight went down. Like before, Andrei is coming off of nasty losses and will no doubt be excercising extreme caution so as to avoid being let go from yet another organization.

I hate to say it, but I am not too stoked about this fight. AA is not quite what he once was.

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]]> By: Makington http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137139 Makington Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:54:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137139 I'm excited to see Andrei no matter the situation, and added the fact that he's been training with the infamous Greg Jackson, we will definitely see a much better fighter. Although I also think it's worth noting that this fight might play out similar to last time. Andrei had lost 2 fights in a row and had beaten an unheralded Marcio Cruz. He had a lot riding on his fight with Fabricio, and this situation is not so different. He is once again with his back to the wall and we might see him playing it a bit safer and trying to avoid taking a huge shot with two devastating KO losses in his past 2 fights. Andrei absolutely needs this fight to go his way and a wild reckless brawl wouldn't be his best bet. But hey, maybe it'll be pure fireworks, I know I am excited to see them no matter what. I’m excited to see Andrei no matter the situation, and added the fact that he’s been training with the infamous Greg Jackson, we will definitely see a much better fighter. Although I also think it’s worth noting that this fight might play out similar to last time. Andrei had lost 2 fights in a row and had beaten an unheralded Marcio Cruz. He had a lot riding on his fight with Fabricio, and this situation is not so different. He is once again with his back to the wall and we might see him playing it a bit safer and trying to avoid taking a huge shot with two devastating KO losses in his past 2 fights. Andrei absolutely needs this fight to go his way and a wild reckless brawl wouldn’t be his best bet.

But hey, maybe it’ll be pure fireworks, I know I am excited to see them no matter what.

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]]> By: roshambo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137136 roshambo Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:49:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137136 If Arlovski can get back on track and they actually fight this time, it could provide some fireworks. If all it ends up being is a replay of last time just with both guys 3 years older now, I'm not sure what the draw to it will be. I think Strikeforce can make better fights than this but that said, I guess I would still watch it.

If Arlovski can get back on track and they actually fight this time, it could provide some fireworks. If all it ends up being is a replay of last time just with both guys 3 years older now, I’m not sure what the draw to it will be. I think Strikeforce can make better fights than this but that said, I guess I would still watch it.

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]]> By: Nick Havok http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137128 Nick Havok Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:00:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137128 I usually jump up in excitement when Strikeforce announces a fight (because they usually look to be good on paper)...but I just can't with this one. I mean we have already seen these guys in what was widely remembered as a boring fight. What would be the point of doing it again? Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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]]> By: Niv http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137120 Niv Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:21:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137120 Exciting times in mma that's for sure. SF is rapidly bringing back a rivalry that could one day be equal to the Pride and UFC rivalry. Arlovski is still one of the best and most dangerous HW's in the world, getting ko'd by Fedor and Rogers should never be a black mark on anyone's record. Hopefully AA's psyche is ready for a serious test again.

Exciting times in mma that’s for sure. SF is rapidly bringing back a rivalry that could one day be equal to the Pride and UFC rivalry.

Arlovski is still one of the best and most dangerous HW’s in the world, getting ko’d by Fedor and Rogers should never be a black mark on anyone’s record.

Hopefully AA’s psyche is ready for a serious test again.

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]]> By: Jak http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137119 Jak Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:17:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137119 Yay! One of the worst fights i have ever seen gets a rematch... nothing like watching 2 guys dodge and weave and slap each other for 15 minutes.... :(

Yay!

One of the worst fights i have ever seen gets a rematch… nothing like watching 2 guys dodge and weave and slap each other for 15 minutes….

:(

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]]> By: Scott H. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137117 Scott H. Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:56:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137117 While I'd certainly watch (for free) the first fight certainly wasn't exciting (as Werdum points out). But, what I think is interesting, if you want to read more into this... If Werdum is not getting the next shot at Fedor, does this mean Overeem is finally going to defend his belt against Fedor?

While I’d certainly watch (for free) the first fight certainly wasn’t exciting (as Werdum points out).

But, what I think is interesting, if you want to read more into this…

If Werdum is not getting the next shot at Fedor, does this mean Overeem is finally going to defend his belt against Fedor?

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]]> By: fanoftna33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/12/14/andrei-arlovski-vs-fabricio-werdum-possible-for-strikeforce/comment-page-1/#comment-137116 fanoftna33 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:54:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=19909#comment-137116 This is a great comeback fight for Andrei, as Werdum doesnt exactly have ko power but is still a threat to beat him. I like both fighters but am pulling a little more for AA here and hopefully he finishes the fight this time unlike the last time they met.

This is a great comeback fight for Andrei, as Werdum doesnt exactly have ko power but is still a threat to beat him. I like both fighters but am pulling a little more for AA here and hopefully he finishes the fight this time unlike the last time they met.

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