Shane Carwin: You’re going to see Brock Lesnar knocked out on the canvas
Shane Carwin recently joined ESPN SportsCenter to discuss his impending heavyweight title clash withBrock Lesnar during UFC 116 this Saturday evening in Las Vegas.
“You’re going to see Brock Lesnar knocked out on the canvas,” stated Carwin when asked to offer a prediction for his upcoming bout with the former WWE superstar and Division I NCAA wrestling champion.
Check out Carwin breaking down the main event of UFC 116 in the video below:
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Lesnar doesn’t need to stand and trade to win. All he needs to do his stun Carwin for just a split second so he can shoot in for a double leg takedown. Lesnar is so fast, especially for a man his size, that it’s ridiculous. Once the fight hits the ground with Lesnar in top position, it’s over.
Maybe Lesnar will keep it on his feet to prove he can outstrike a striker. If so, that gives Carwin a better chance. But if Carwin hurts Lesnar, Lesnar will revert to what he knows, and it’s back to takedowns and gnp. Carwin has a chance, but I predict it’s over by Lesnar ko or tko in either the first or second round.
‘or I’ll spend the entire night with MY back on the canvas’
If Lesnar strikes with Carwin, he’s getting knocked out fast..
Carwin can also catch him coming in for the clinch or takedown..
If neither of those happen it’ll be a long night for Carwin..
Couldn’t disagree more. Carwin has the off switch. He’s gonna put Lesnar to sleep. Even if Lesnar takes him down he won’t be able to keep him there. This isn’t Mir he’s taking down or Couture. This is a guy of comparable size and athleticism
Besides ring rust and that illness may have diminished Lesnar in a way not outwardly apparent
Carwin 1st Round KO
Carwin was a Div II NCAA wrestling champ so while Lesnar may have an advantage on the ground I am curious to see just how big that advantage will be. Carwin should be tough to take down and keep down if Lesnar is striking wildly. He has shown a tendency to get excited on the ground which is what cost him against Mir.
I’ve said it before and I will say it again. CARWIN BY NASTY KNOCKOUT!!!!!!!!!!
I really doubt we see Carwin with a KO…
Brock’s got this… He’s going to probably get tagged in the first only to awake the sleeping giant and it’s a wrap from there on out… Carwin may be able to hold off 1 take down attempt but after the amount of energy spent doing so, the very next one he’s on the ground and although they both have the wrestling back ground I’m giving the edge to Brock, I think he gets the stoppage.
Brock and Carwin on paper measure up but when you look at both men there’s a size ( mass) advantage for brock and I think we see him smothering Carwin and dropping some bows an blows.
Just my opinion- either way can’t wait to watch this shit.
I hope he’s not saying that just to hype this fight even more. We’ve seen what happens when matches get over hyped (evans boring win over rampage). But Carwin hasn’t dissapointed us yet as no one has made it out the 1st round against him. 1st round KO for Carwin. Carwin vs Velasquez next ; Brock vs Cigano
You guys are in the Carwin trance. All his wins, his opponents have committed to standing with him. Carwin cant’t throw huge hooks with such a high chance of being taken down. If youve seen Thiago and Hardys fights against GSP, you’ d never have guessed they were such dangerous punchers because they must constantly be ready to sprawl.
Not only do I think Carwin will win, But I’m willing to bet Brock does not have the bollocks to even try to stand with him. And those of you that keep saying Carwin will get taken down with ease and not be able to get up are crazy. That is why Brock is talking all that crap and trying to show no respect. It is a defence mecanizum, cause he is scared to death. Brock if you are reading this Nighty Night.
Oh, and another thing, for those of you that watched the count down. Did anyone else think Brock was low class as hell for making that Division 2 comment about guys hanging themselves.
There are plenty of skilled, successful athletes in pro sports who also are douche bags. Lesnar may be one of them. Carwin wins the popularity contest–he seems like a decent guy–but Lesnar wins the fight, imo.
I’d like to see Carwin win so he can defend his title against another undefeated opponent, Cain Valesquez…and that will also set up Lesnar vs Mir III.
Excuse my language but Who the fuck wants to see Lesnar Mir 3? Id rather see Lesnar – Cain, Dos Santos, ANYONE BUT MIR, even a rematch with Carwin regardless of 116s outcome. Besides, I personally loved the idea of Mir at 205- so many interesting match ups!
Lesnar vs BJ at a catchweight of 285lbs is what I wanna see.
Judging my thumbs down/thumbs upon this thread all it takes to get mega thumbs down is hint that Carwin may not win. so here goes and get those thumbs down ready..
Carwin can KO Brock but, I think Brock plays it smart and makes it a wrestling match. Don’t know the level of Carwin’s ground game as he doesn’t use it much. I just don’t see it going 5 rounds either.
I say Brock via GnP late round 2.
Since I didn’t praise Carwin like the man-god he must be for calling out ppl in his blog I must be ridiculed. BTW don’t hate Carwin at all just think Brock finds a way to win
Brock wins…Shane wins….This is a very tough fight to call, people. Each has the skills and the tools to destroy the other. Every UFC I bet with a work buddy of mine on the Main event (Only $20, nothing like all of you high M’Fucker Rollers here LMAO)…and the last 3, I have had to reluctantly hand over some green to this shit…I still cannot believe that half-right from Franklin knocked out the Iceman!!! I’m not a fighter, so i’ll shut-up. Sooo, I’m just gonna sit back, 20 beers in, root on with the other idiots, and enjoy a 1-2 round mauling by who knows who…I’m done guessing.
Side note…..Akiyama…Bonnar…Pellegrino….Tuchscherer….and who cares….. (nice going Grove, pissing off Spike TV…IDIOT!!!!)
I personally think Brock will win, but considering neither of them have a huge amount of experience with top tier fighters, we’re all just guessing. Brock and Carwin are about the same size, with a slight advantage to Brock, and both are freakishly powerful. Brock broke Herring’s orbital with the first shot in the fight and completely mauled Mir’s face with very short punches, and Carwin has a habit of reaching out and touching folks on the light switch and has shown the ability to KO people while retreating and hurt.
I don’t know how well Brock has recovered from the illness and how that may have affected his overall strength. But Brock, his camp, and no even Randy are all saying that he’s back to 100% and is looking great, so I’m gonna trust the Natural’s opinion here.
I think Brock gets the take down fairly early in the round, but he’ll have to work for it more than normal. I don’t know how well he’ll be able to keep Carwin on his back, but I think that Brock has enough of a wrestling advantage to pull it off. Carwin’s ground game is also based on wrestling, and we’ve seen time and time again that wrestling based fighters are not comfortable at all once they end up on their back and I think that will come into play here again. I also don’t see Brock being afraid to posture up more in this fight compared to his last one with Mir simply because Carwin doesn’t have the BJJ skills off his back like Mir does.
And here’s a shocker for a lot of people, I wouldn’t be overly surprised if Brock managed to KO Carwin. Yes, you read that right. Carwin was seriously rocked by Gonzaga in their matchup, and Gonzaga isn’t exactly known as an incredibly powerful striker. If Gonzaga hadn’t gotten overconfident and left himself open, or if Carwin hadn’t landed that shot, I think Gonzaga would have finished him off there. Brock may not be known for his devastating strikes, but he broke a guys orbital (incredibly hard bone by the way) and KO’d Randy, both while standing, so it’s not exactly like he’s throwing pillows around.
No way Mir is gonna drop that much weight to fight at 205…and who cares who’s gonna win…Big Country will have the belt soon after he woops JDS ! I can only image how well this comment will go over
“Excuse my language but Who the fuck wants to see Lesnar Mir 3? Id rather see Lesnar – Cain, Dos Santos, ANYONE BUT MIR, even a rematch with Carwin regardless of 116s outcome. Besides, I personally loved the idea of Mir at 205- so many interesting match ups!”
Mir has already said a few times that he’s considering a drop to 205. Before he bulked up in an attempt to hang with the really big boys, he was coming into HW fights at 250 tops and looking chubby when he did. When he first came into the UFC he was a pretty small HW, running around at 230-240, so if he gets back down to that more natural size I can see him cutting down to 205.
He even trains with Forrest and says that they have similar frames.
If Mir dropped to 205 i’d watch every one of his fights… I think he would be a real force in LHW… I think he should go for it.
I think you guys are forgeting what makes this fight so exciting Atleast, in my opinion.
Carwin may be the only in the heavyweight division who can even compete with Lesnar in the wrestling department (I’m not saying he’s better or even equal, I’m saying stands a chance!). All he has to do is keep it standing for just afew seconds… and he can end this fight., no matter how much you love lesnar, you have to admit that BUT
on the other hand, all Lesnar needs to do to win is surprise Carwin for just afew seconds with a takedown for a straight right, and he gonna have his shot to finish it on the ground.
its pretty close matchup on paper guys, we’re just gonna have to wait for it
I admit that Carwin probably has the best chance against Lesnar in the wrestling department as far as HW’s go. I think Cain may actually be a better wrestler than Carwin at this point, but he’s not near as big.
I think either of these guys has the chance to completely separate the other one from consciousness, I’m just picking Brock to win based on (perceived) overall skill sets.
And to be perfectly honest, I don’t like Brock. I much prefer Carwin’s interviews and personality, but this is MMA, so the nice guys don’t always win.
Brock is used to picking up 300 – 450 lbs of dead mass on a nightly basis from his WWE days so taking Shane down isnt going to be a problem…
Brock is also used to getting hit in the head with a chair repeatedly from his WWE days….So im sure he will be able to hang with Shane until he takes him down and ground and pounds him…
I love that all the MMA purist hate Brock….Your going to hate him more Saturday night when he beats the crap out of “Mr All my fights have ended in the first round even though 90% were against scrubs”…Then you guys can start your….”Well maybe Cain can beat him or maybe Dos Santos”…
Word to McBatty
“Brock is used to picking up 300 – 450 lbs of dead mass on a nightly basis from his WWE days so taking Shane down isnt going to be a problem…
Brock is also used to getting hit in the head with a chair repeatedly from his WWE days….So im sure he will be able to hang with Shane until he takes him down and ground and pounds him…”
God, I hope you are not serious. You realize that he was not really being hit, and that those guys jumped to assist the pick up right. You arn’t one of those rednecks that still think that stuff is real?
Has Brock ever knocked anyone out? Not TKOs but real to sleep knock outs? I know he beat Randy and good for him looks great on his record. Never mind that Randy was 40 lbs lighter, 15 years older and had not fought in over a year. But he did beat Heath, could not finish him standing or on the ground even with his division 1 title. And Mir, he beat mir to, a smaller weaker Mir than Carwin faced, and I believe Carwin got the job done a little quicker, oh and it didn’t take him two times to do it either.
It is possible. He has a punchers chance. That is all he has though. Brock is faster, stronger, younger, a better wrestler and will not stand and trade (i hope!).
Just my opinion.
Carwin is going to lose this fight just as bad as he was suppose to be WORKED by mir.
I have been saying it since i saw Carwin take out gabe.
Carwin will be the next HW CHAMP
I truly hope Carwin does ko Brock, but I have to think that Brock is going to grind out a win against him.
I can’t help but replay the Gonzaga/Carwin fight in my head where Gonzaga was completely manhandling Carwin during the first round. Carwin’s offense was exactly zero up to the point where he threw that one punch while dazed and ko’d Gonzaga. The punch and composure he showed was impressive, but I think it showed some holes that will most likely be exposed by Brock.
The side note to this is that neither of these guys has a long enough track record to definitively state how this fight will go. It’s a very intriguing match-up and hopefully it will be a hard fought exciting fight, it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Not a lot to say that hasn’t been said- Great when two such well matched opponents get a chance to fight for a title.
Razor thin margins on this one, but as much as I appreciate Shane Carwin and his self effacing demeanor, something is telling me Brock will display a depth of ability and mental toughness that will surprise a lot of his detractors.
Still lots of variables here: Lesnar’s physical condition, and the undeniable presence of ring rust, which I think we saw in the Rampage/Evans fight. Carwin is a great striker, but if an opponent of equal size and strength gets close enough to clinch, does he have the technique and stamina to go into the later rounds? Shane is big, strong, and fast, but can he come forward into the shot like Lesnar has demonstrated he can, and put Brock on his back, then keep him there for Gn’P? Can Brock survive the lights out shot, like Carwin showed he could against Gonzaga, maintain composure, and continue to implement his gameplan? Lots of questions to be answered in the cage on Saturday night, and lots of excited fans awaiting those answers…
why is it that brock can learn from his mistakes and only get better while Carwin is just know for having holes in his game and will be exsposed?????
So Carwin and his camp are just so ill equiped to break down film and game plan???
As a fan of both fighters,I’m excited for this fight…..I can’t pick a winner here,cos there are so many circumstances that can change a fight outcome (i.e., one lucky punch…)but I hope that UFC has re-enforced the cage,cos these two big bulls could wind up thru the cage onto Rogan and Goldberg’s laps!! Can’t wait for this one!!
THESE ARE THE FACTS OF THE CASE:
Has Brock ever knocked anyone out? Not TKOs but real to sleep knock outs? I know he beat Randy and good for him looks great on his record. Never mind that Randy was 40 lbs lighter, 15 years older and had not fought in over a year. And that the only reason he even got a shot was cause the two people who should have gotten a chance were doing a TV show. But he did beat Heath, could not finish him standing or on the ground even with his division 1 title. He had 15 minutes, if he is so dominate of a wrestler and has such knock out power, where was it? Maybe his wife had them in her purse that night and he forgot to grab them.And Mir, he beat mir to, a smaller weaker Mir than Carwin faced, and I believe Carwin got the job done a little quicker, oh and it didn’t take him two times to do it either. Every one is talking about what Brock is capable of doing, based on what ?Dude has never done anything. He got put in the title picture to sell tickets. Dana made a fortune.
Sorry if the Carwin haters do not like this, but as I said THESE ARE THE FACTS.
I for one am not a Carwin hater at all, I actually like the guy. He seems like a good guy and one that would be a great role model as a champ. He’s intelligent, educated and well spoken, but aside from that I haven’t seen enough of him to think he’s going to beat Brock.
I understand that we haven’t seen much of Brock either but my hunch is Brock’s going to grind out a win with his wrestling and gnp. Let’s face it the guy doesn’t have anything else as far as I’ve seen but in this case I feel it will be enough.
On a personal level I will be rooting for Cawrin the whole way and hope he proves me wrong.
i also love the fact that people are saying that they havent seen enough of Cawin to give him any credit when only seeing 5 fights from Brock
My prediction for Brock. He will shoot several times for a take down, if he is successful he wont be able to keep Carwin down. He will get frustrated and try stand with Carwin and get knocked out in a devastating fashion. Brock will blame it on ring rust. Dana will come to his defense since Brock is his cash cow and we will see a rematch soon.
Ok,
People this is easy Brock is just way to strong and fast for Carwin to be able to handle
on the feet or on the ground. Brock is a division 1 wrestler Carwin division 2. Also brock has age on his size.
Please don’t use age here, Brock’s in his 30′s one year younger than that Fedor guy everyone keeps pretending is old and washed up.
I agree that Brock should power through Carwin but we have seen very little from either guy. Every time I see Carwin/Gonzaga I think this guy can be tossed around, but wait a second Brock couldn’t hold LHW Couture down when they fought, so maybe I’m giving Brock too much credit that he’ll be able to manhandle Carwin.
Either way, even though I can’t personally see either guy hold the number 1 HW spot yet, I am intrigued to see how this fight plays out.
I love how when one guy is known for KO’ing people they forget to look at the stats. Yes Carwin is huge, yes he has heavy hands, but the two top quality opponents he’s beaten are also prone to getting KO’d. All of both Gonzaga and Mir’s losses have come via (T)KO. I’m not saying he’s not dangerous on his feet, I’m just saying that we’ve never seen him test anyone with a solid chin.
And with that said, I’m not saying Lesnar has a solid chin. He got rocked by Mir in their 2nd fight and saved himself by pulling off the single-leg takedown.
While I personally think Lesnar has the advantage on the ground, we don’t really know since the only time we’ve seen Carwin on the ground was when he was sitting on a guy’s chest and punching him in the face. We can look at past accomplishments there and point out that Lesnar is a Div I champ while Carwin is a Div II champ, but we tried pointing out that Hendo was a better wrestler than Shields due to his past works, and look how that worked out.
Niv, while I agree with you that Lesnar is fairly close to Fedor in age, I don’t think they’re at the same point in their careers right now. Fedor has been in 35 MMA bouts, many of them wars, and hundreds of other combat competitions. All of which have taken a toll on his body. Lesnar wrestled in college, but that’s not near as damaging as MMA+Sambo+Judo for as many years as Fedor’s been in the game. So I think that comparing Lesnar’s age with Carwin is a perfectly fair thing to do.
Lesnar is 32 and has only been in 5 fights. Carwin is 35 and has been in 12 fights. They have about equal time in collegiate wrestling, so that’s not a factor here. The numbers don’t lie, Carwin is older and we’ve traditionally seen MMA fighters start to take a turn for the worse at ~35 years old (except Randy, he’s a freak of nature), and while I don’t expect Carwin to come out and completely gas or have a coronary in the Octagon, I think that he might have a little harder time recovering from training and lasting as long in a match. So far it hasn’t been an issue, possibly because he’s never been past the 4th minute of a fight, but if this goes into the deep rounds I wouldn’t be surprised to see Lesnar with an advantage in conditioning.
I freely admit that this fight could go either way, especially since I’ve personally only seen 4 matches from either fighter and both have shown incredible power. I happen to believe that Lesnar will be the one with the belt at the end of the night based mostly on a percieved advantage on the ground, in size, and because I’ve never seen Carwin fight long enough to know what his cardio looks like.
Dufresne I agree that Fedor without a doubt has a lot of hard mileage on his motor, and it remains to be seen if his loss to Werdum is the signal that he’s slowed and heading onto his eventual decline, or he just got caught plain and simple.
I think Werdum caught him, but I also am guessing a bit because Fedor himself said that he didn’t react in auto when he left his arm hanging there for Werdum (maybe an admission he’s actually slowing).
Either way that is the one advantage both Brock and Carwin carry over Fedor, I just know that no matter how much training those guys put in they don’t have the time to develop the skill sets Fedor built up since he’s been doing Sambo and competing since his teens.
Regardless as I’ve stated previously I really look forward to the big bulls clashing in the cage, regardless of the outcome I hope they put on a good show. It would be sad to have all this build up and produce a dud, always a possibilty but somehow I think this one will deliver.
Anyone see that? Anyone?……..HAHAHHAAHAHA…….Brock Lesner 1 – Haters and Shane Carwin 0
Only guy in the world that can beat Brock now is Fedor…..