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		<title>By: GIKE MOLDBERG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GIKE MOLDBERG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 04:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Takanori by stoppage in the second(believe it or not)-Jon Jones by TKO in the third-Munoz loses by submission to Okami-and Howard defeats Ellenberger by second round TKO</description>
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		<title>By: UFC on Versus 2 &#8211; Previews and Predictions : Five Ounces of Pain</title>
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		<dc:creator>UFC on Versus 2 &#8211; Previews and Predictions : Five Ounces of Pain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: superdavenorcal</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdavenorcal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satisfied/Semi Excited: Never been a Tito fan so to me its exciting to see someone beat him down. Also because Tito wont be able to take Hammil down he&#039;s gonna be forced to stand and while neither guy has &quot;pretty&quot; stand up, Hammil has power and like Bald Bull (had to do it) one well timed shot can drop Tito for a possible TKO. Otherwise I see Hammil out pointing him all night.

 No real opinion on best p4p women&#039;s fighter. I havent seen Mega Muu fight yet and I&#039;ve only seen a couple Kaufman fights, so I feel unfair answering this question

Ellenberger vs. Howard: this is gonna be AWESOME.

Hopefully gomi wont be tossed and I doubt it, too big of a name, he&#039;ll get at least one more shot against a Terry Etim or another semi beatable opponent.

Vlady is the toughest opponent Jon Jones has faced due to experience. If Jones grabs Vlad lookin for a throw I think Vlad might be the first to throw him instead, I think Vlad will be ready for any crazy wrestling tricks from Jones but in the standup he&#039;ll be eaten alive.

I&#039;m gonna say Machida. Rampage has done far better than most &quot;experts&quot; have given him the chance to do in the octagon so what does he have to prove? Machida on the other hand was being talked about in circles with A Silva, GSP and Fedor as the best p4p and Shogun showed the few weaknesses he has. That being said I expect Machida to lay back and Counter Rampage all night. Rampage needs to take a page from Shoguns book and use those hooks to the Body  while Machida&#039;s comin in to take some speed away. If Rampage brings out a slam for this one(provided he can get ahold of Machida) he can win this, but I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satisfied/Semi Excited: Never been a Tito fan so to me its exciting to see someone beat him down. Also because Tito wont be able to take Hammil down he&#8217;s gonna be forced to stand and while neither guy has &#8220;pretty&#8221; stand up, Hammil has power and like Bald Bull (had to do it) one well timed shot can drop Tito for a possible TKO. Otherwise I see Hammil out pointing him all night.</p>
<p> No real opinion on best p4p women&#8217;s fighter. I havent seen Mega Muu fight yet and I&#8217;ve only seen a couple Kaufman fights, so I feel unfair answering this question</p>
<p>Ellenberger vs. Howard: this is gonna be AWESOME.</p>
<p>Hopefully gomi wont be tossed and I doubt it, too big of a name, he&#8217;ll get at least one more shot against a Terry Etim or another semi beatable opponent.</p>
<p>Vlady is the toughest opponent Jon Jones has faced due to experience. If Jones grabs Vlad lookin for a throw I think Vlad might be the first to throw him instead, I think Vlad will be ready for any crazy wrestling tricks from Jones but in the standup he&#8217;ll be eaten alive.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m gonna say Machida. Rampage has done far better than most &#8220;experts&#8221; have given him the chance to do in the octagon so what does he have to prove? Machida on the other hand was being talked about in circles with A Silva, GSP and Fedor as the best p4p and Shogun showed the few weaknesses he has. That being said I expect Machida to lay back and Counter Rampage all night. Rampage needs to take a page from Shoguns book and use those hooks to the Body  while Machida&#8217;s comin in to take some speed away. If Rampage brings out a slam for this one(provided he can get ahold of Machida) he can win this, but I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dufresne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dufresne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- I guess satisfied. I&#039;m not really a Tito fan to be honest. I definitely respect the man for his accomplishments and the attention he helped bring to the sport, but in the last few years his only impressive moments were his 1st fight with Griffin and his fight with Rashad (if he hadn&#039;t held the cage --&gt; he wouldn&#039;t have lost a point --&gt; he would have won the decision instead of getting a draw), and almost catching Machida in that triangle. I&#039;m not sure what kind of test Hamill will pose to Ortiz though. Hamill&#039;s standup is just now getting to &quot;average&quot; and Tito&#039;s head is built, and looks like, a bank vault. Hamill may have the advantage in wrestling, but if he does it&#039;s not by much.

- I&#039;m gonna have to go with &quot;Mega Megu&quot; Fujii as well. Cyborg would probably be the scariest one to step in the cage with because of her power, but Fujii just seems more impressive to me. Cyborg throws nasty shots, but every now and then she gets sloppy and gets tagged pretty well. In her last fight she got clipped pretty well at the beginning of the 2nd, and if her opponent had a little more mustard on that shot, she might have taken Cyborg out. Fujii, however, seems much more composed and I&#039;ve yet to see a hole in her ground game (granted I&#039;ve only seen her fight a whopping 3 times). 

- I don&#039;t think they&#039;ll cut Gomi after this fight regardless of if he loses, even if he gets dominated. Florian is one of the elite LWs in the game today, so losing to him isn&#039;t exactly a huge black mark on the record and Griffen isn&#039;t much, if any, step down from Florian. And like the article states, the UFC is always looking for more international viewers, so having a Japanese legend on the roster isn&#039;t a bad way of getting it. Plus, ZUFFA has the rights to his old PRIDE footage which they can use to promote him to newer fans who may not have heard of him. I think if he loses to Griffen they&#039;ll give him a middle tier opponent or a less experienced guy, and even if he loses that they may keep him around.

- They both have things to prove, but neither of them has a lot to prove. Machida got KO&#039;d in his last fight, and since he almost never gets hit in general, people are wondering about the shape of his chin. But the guy that KO&#039;d Machida, Shogun, has gotten (T)KO&#039;s in 16 of 19 wins including ones over Overeem x2, Coleman, Liddell, and the guy Machida is fighting, Rampage, so it&#039;s not exactly like he got KO&#039;d by Gabby Jay (sorry, after the Glass Joe reference I had to bust out my old school Nintendo knowledge)
Rampage doesn&#039;t have a lot to prove either. He looked slow and kinda sloppy against Rashad, but most people look slow against Rashad. I really don&#039;t like Evans, but I have to give the guy credit, he&#039;s a hell of an athlete and he&#039;s very quick. Unless Rampage looks timid or gasses very early, I don&#039;t really see anything he &lt;strong&gt;needs&lt;/strong&gt; to do to prove that he&#039;s still relevant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- I guess satisfied. I&#8217;m not really a Tito fan to be honest. I definitely respect the man for his accomplishments and the attention he helped bring to the sport, but in the last few years his only impressive moments were his 1st fight with Griffin and his fight with Rashad (if he hadn&#8217;t held the cage &#8211;&gt; he wouldn&#8217;t have lost a point &#8211;&gt; he would have won the decision instead of getting a draw), and almost catching Machida in that triangle. I&#8217;m not sure what kind of test Hamill will pose to Ortiz though. Hamill&#8217;s standup is just now getting to &#8220;average&#8221; and Tito&#8217;s head is built, and looks like, a bank vault. Hamill may have the advantage in wrestling, but if he does it&#8217;s not by much.</p>
<p>- I&#8217;m gonna have to go with &#8220;Mega Megu&#8221; Fujii as well. Cyborg would probably be the scariest one to step in the cage with because of her power, but Fujii just seems more impressive to me. Cyborg throws nasty shots, but every now and then she gets sloppy and gets tagged pretty well. In her last fight she got clipped pretty well at the beginning of the 2nd, and if her opponent had a little more mustard on that shot, she might have taken Cyborg out. Fujii, however, seems much more composed and I&#8217;ve yet to see a hole in her ground game (granted I&#8217;ve only seen her fight a whopping 3 times). </p>
<p>- I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll cut Gomi after this fight regardless of if he loses, even if he gets dominated. Florian is one of the elite LWs in the game today, so losing to him isn&#8217;t exactly a huge black mark on the record and Griffen isn&#8217;t much, if any, step down from Florian. And like the article states, the UFC is always looking for more international viewers, so having a Japanese legend on the roster isn&#8217;t a bad way of getting it. Plus, ZUFFA has the rights to his old PRIDE footage which they can use to promote him to newer fans who may not have heard of him. I think if he loses to Griffen they&#8217;ll give him a middle tier opponent or a less experienced guy, and even if he loses that they may keep him around.</p>
<p>- They both have things to prove, but neither of them has a lot to prove. Machida got KO&#8217;d in his last fight, and since he almost never gets hit in general, people are wondering about the shape of his chin. But the guy that KO&#8217;d Machida, Shogun, has gotten (T)KO&#8217;s in 16 of 19 wins including ones over Overeem x2, Coleman, Liddell, and the guy Machida is fighting, Rampage, so it&#8217;s not exactly like he got KO&#8217;d by Gabby Jay (sorry, after the Glass Joe reference I had to bust out my old school Nintendo knowledge)<br />
Rampage doesn&#8217;t have a lot to prove either. He looked slow and kinda sloppy against Rashad, but most people look slow against Rashad. I really don&#8217;t like Evans, but I have to give the guy credit, he&#8217;s a hell of an athlete and he&#8217;s very quick. Unless Rampage looks timid or gasses very early, I don&#8217;t really see anything he <strong>needs</strong> to do to prove that he&#8217;s still relevant</p>
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		<title>By: fanoftna33</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Hamill vs Ortiz is a very good match up, i am excited. I really hope to see Tito 100% but fully expect to see nothing of the sort. We have heard way to many times he is back 100% and seen for ourselfs that he isnt. A prime Tito would be a great match up for Hamill. On a side note I dont think i would call Jardine glass joe and if we as readers do not partake in fighter bashing why does Adam Tool resort to it?
All three deserve to be at the top of the womans p4p talk, but i to will go with the record here and a woman with 20 strait wins has to be at the top. 
Griffen vs Gomi is a very exciting fight on paper, again like Tito above, if Gomi is truly in shape and a fire is lit under him we will see a classic. And unless Gomi is completly blown out I dont think the UFC lets him go this quick.
Neither Rampage or Machida has anything to prove here, but both are probably going to fight like they do and that is why I am looking forward to this fight more then any other fight right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Hamill vs Ortiz is a very good match up, i am excited. I really hope to see Tito 100% but fully expect to see nothing of the sort. We have heard way to many times he is back 100% and seen for ourselfs that he isnt. A prime Tito would be a great match up for Hamill. On a side note I dont think i would call Jardine glass joe and if we as readers do not partake in fighter bashing why does Adam Tool resort to it?<br />
All three deserve to be at the top of the womans p4p talk, but i to will go with the record here and a woman with 20 strait wins has to be at the top.<br />
Griffen vs Gomi is a very exciting fight on paper, again like Tito above, if Gomi is truly in shape and a fire is lit under him we will see a classic. And unless Gomi is completly blown out I dont think the UFC lets him go this quick.<br />
Neither Rampage or Machida has anything to prove here, but both are probably going to fight like they do and that is why I am looking forward to this fight more then any other fight right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Rece Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rece Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- satisfied.

- Cris “Cyborg” Santos... but like the article states they all excell in one way or another but for me Cyborg is just an animal.

- UFC on Versus 2 is free sooo all the fights I look forward to naturally.

- I BUY he is a tough opponent for Jones but I still think Zuffa is handling him with kid gloves currently... they know he has the potential to build up some drawing power and create fan interest currently and even more so down the road so when he&#039;s ready  they can milk that cash cow.

- Takanori Gomi gets shelved but will get a 3rd opportunity...

- Rampage Jackson has more to prove but I think the Dragon is more liable to feel like he has to prove something...I think Rampage doesn&#039;t care to prove anything...I think Dragon&#039;s mind set will hurt or help him going in to the fight.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- satisfied.</p>
<p>- Cris “Cyborg” Santos&#8230; but like the article states they all excell in one way or another but for me Cyborg is just an animal.</p>
<p>- UFC on Versus 2 is free sooo all the fights I look forward to naturally.</p>
<p>- I BUY he is a tough opponent for Jones but I still think Zuffa is handling him with kid gloves currently&#8230; they know he has the potential to build up some drawing power and create fan interest currently and even more so down the road so when he&#8217;s ready  they can milk that cash cow.</p>
<p>- Takanori Gomi gets shelved but will get a 3rd opportunity&#8230;</p>
<p>- Rampage Jackson has more to prove but I think the Dragon is more liable to feel like he has to prove something&#8230;I think Rampage doesn&#8217;t care to prove anything&#8230;I think Dragon&#8217;s mind set will hurt or help him going in to the fight.</p>
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