Lyoto Machida declines title-shot, Vitor Belfort booked against Jon Jones

The strange saga of UFC 151 continued last night when it was revealed light heavyweight contender Lyoto Machida has decided to decline a shot at 205-pound champion Jon Jones’ belt based on the abbreviated preparation period for a September 22 showdown. Adding another unforeseen twist, seasoned stand-up artist Vitor Belfort was named as Machida’s replacement, making a move up from 185 pounds to challenge for one of MMA’s most prestigious titles.

The shocking news was unveiled late last night by MMAFighting. Things have since been confirmed  by both Belfort and Zuffa executive Lorenzo Fertitta by way of Twitter.

Belfort is coming off back-to-back wins in the middleweight division with a pair of first-frame stoppages against Yoshihiro Akiyama and Anthony Johnson. He has been out of action since January while coaching on TUF Brasil and dealing with an injury forcing him on the sidelines. Prior to his pairing with Jones, Belfort was set to battle Alan Belcher in October at UFC 153.

No word has surfaced on how Belcher’s bout will be handled.

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56 COMMENTS
  • raker says:

    This totally caught me by surprise as it was no where on the radar. It is an intriguing match up in some ways and I actually like Belfort better at this weight. It does show again the lack of competition at LHW for Jones when two of the possible replacements named within 24 hours are middleweights.

    With a spot opening up against Belcher, this I a great spot to put Weidman.

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  • Creature says:

    ..The hell? Well i guess were gonna see if Belfort’s speed and close the distance enough before he gets hellbowed back down to MW

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  • THEGUNNER says:

    Jbj has got to be feeling in a position of power causing this.confusion.Id like to see vitor win this then beat the snot out of sonnen.

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  • Richard Stabone says:

    So once Hendo was hurt, the Chael idea got floated but was quickly shot down.

    At that point I think everyone was in agreement that Machida was the most deserving of the next shot at Jones.

    But then with Lyoto declining that opportunity the UFC has opted to go with Vitor. So what does this tell us?

    It means that not only was Chael not the top contender, he wasn’t 2nd in line either. And certainly not ahead of Gustafsson either. Look, we already knew this — Chael isn’t even in the freaking mix for the LHW title picture. But you sure wouldn’t know it based on all the noise today.

    So yeah, the UFC could have forced a completely undeserving “contender” into a title fight to salvage an event. That’s what the masses were screaming for. But in doing so the UFC is bailing itself out from crappy planning–putting together a PPV card built on sand, hoping it wouldn’t rain–by compromising the legitimacy of the LHW divisional rankings. That’s a helluva way of doing business.

    And then what if Chael had won? What if he caught Jones in an awkward takedown and Jones cracked a rib, or any of the numerous other unpredictable things that can happen in a fight? You’d have this undeserving contender all of a sudden wearing the belt, jumping the line in front of all the other true contenders. Setting a completely ridiculous precedent than depending on how things break, anybody can get a title shot on any given day. (hint: espeically if you’re loud & obnoxious!)

    I’m still somewhat amazed this is the option people were screaming for, and enraged at Jones for not going along with. The basic fact of the matter is the UFC’s shoddy planning of this overall event is what led to the disaster we ended up with. Jones is just the scapegoat.

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  • Richard Stabone says:

    Jbj has got to be feeling in a position of power causing this.confusion.Id like to see vitor win this then beat the snot out of sonnen.

    Lol…seriously. Why do people keep acting like Chael is in the LHW title mix? First off he’s 2-2 in his last 4 fights. Beyond that, he hasn’t fought at LHW in over 5 years and his only LHW fight in the UFC was a one-sided loss.

    But tons of people are set on matching up Chael in a LHW title fight. My god that man has a spell on people.

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  • Brendhan Conlan says:

    Supposedly Shogun was offered the fight before Belfort but also turned it down.

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  • Screenplaya says:

    If you blame JBJ for this, you are probably an idiot.

    The issue here is that the UFC planned a card that they would happily cancel if one of the main fighters were to get injured. That is bad business. Add to that the fact that Dana White has been ass-hatting himself around, trying to throw one of the champions and then one of the elite trainers under the bus, and you have the best example of UFC stupidity that has ever seen the light of day.

    The champ must not be expected to fight a blowhard moron who is in no measurable way deserving of a title shot. If you think JBJ is scared of Chael, you are either an idiot, or you are named Chael Sonnen.

    I was jazzed when I thought it would be Lyoto, but I totally get why he would turn it down, too. Good for Vitor. He jumped the line, is legit, and will headline the fight. Good luck. I hope the fight is a classic.

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  • hindsightufuk says:

    i really would would rather have seen Jones in a non title fight against a smallish heavyweight than Vitor. Miocic, Struve, Browne, Bigfoot, are all due to fight either one week or two after the Jones event

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  • Or how about gustaffson? This.makes absolutely NO sense. I’m not mad at the champ,I’m mad at the ufc for making this call. I don’t think chael deserved the shot but at least he beat contenders at MW to earn his title shot. Belfort hasn’t beaten anyone of contender value in a long while.
    I DO however like the prospect of belcher vs Weidman though, it helps clear up 185 but 205 looks shoddy right now
    Hindsights idea of Jones moving up for a night sounds way better than this.

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  • Lord Faust says:

    The longer this plays out, I’m sorry but Jones is looking just like all these other “warriors”; smart enough not to take short notice fights.

    Seriously, we’re down to Vitor now…

    But everyone was right, it was Jones who was selfish and no one else.

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  • AlphaOmega says:

    What did happen to Gustaffson? Or Rampage, Or glover, wonder if they asked them and they all said no

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  • Lord Faust says:

    Or they don’t want the fight.

    The longer this plays out, the more it looks like people just hate Jones when he’s no different than anyone else.

    Thumbs down all you want; it doesn’t change reality. Jones isn’t the only business-minded fighter in the UFC. Truth must hurt.

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  • elsicilian says:

    If you think JBJ’s refusal to accept a reasonable substitution of opponent (based on injury to the originally agreed upon opponent) was not the proximate cause for the event’s cancellation, you are clearly an idiot.

    The question is not whether Sonnen “deserves” a title shot … he’s just a warm body (of sufficient stature for promotional purposes) for Jones to face so the show can go on. Of course he champ IS expected to face all comers, and when Chael Sonnen is the best the UFC can come up with on eight days’ notice (*especially* when the card was built as a JBJ showcase, and can’t survive without him), it’s incumbent upon Jon Jones to face Chael Sonnen.

    I would actually prefer to think that JBJ is scared of Chael Sonnen than believe he chose to scuttle the entire event and waste everyone’s time and money based on petty jealousy or whimsy. Unfortunately, you are probably correct on that count … although, if he truly believes Chael Sonnen is undeserving of a shot, you’d think there would be no better way to squash that idea than to get in a ring with him on short notice and beat the stuffing out of him. Maybe Jones really did have doubts about his ability to do that …

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  • AlphaOmega says:

    It does kinda suck Machida turned it down, but like Faust mentioned in the other article, their first fight was taken on a 4 week notice, and Machida got choked out. Now they want him to do it on 3(?) weeks notice? I think I’d turn it down too just with how the first fight played out

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  • Lord Faust says:

    They didn’t even check with anyone else, or did you miss the Anderson Silva story on the main page? They apparently tried Chael and Machida and then just gave up.

    And if you think Jones is afraid of Chael Sonnen…. Nevermind; I’m not falling for that troll statement.

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  • elsicilian says:

    @Faust – you and I have debated this on other threads, so I won’t belabor the point. But your assumption that a) turning down what was probably a hefty financial incentive and thereby b) scuttling the entire event and c) doing irreparable damage to his standing in the eyes of the fans, sponsors, UFC brass and power brokers of the sport is a “business-minded” decision is beyond inexplicable. This guy would have to be the worst business man in the world …

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  • elsicilian says:

    You guys are missing the point. The UFC found a reasonable substitute. Jones wouldn’t fight him. End of show, end of story.

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  • Lord Faust says:

    We’re obviously talking past each other. The UFC fucked this up. Jones had a minor role in that but ultimately the decisions and lack of alternates sought are Zuffa’s mistake.

    And again, Machida wouldn’t even take the fight on a month’s notice. Please be sure to throw him under the bus at your next opportunity.

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  • Lord Faust says:

    Chael is not a reasonable substitute for a light heavyweight title fight. Or do I need re-post his recent UFC record again? It would make the UFC look even more desperate than they are; considering only middleweights appear to want to fight the LHW champ.

    I like Chael (these days), but I wasn’t going to pay $55 to see him get beat up because he was the only guy free on a Saturday.

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  • AlphaOmega says:

    I feel that my comment got ignored in this argument, it made me a little sad.

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  • AlphaOmega says:

    I also feel that everyone is talking in a circle again rehashing everything that was said yesterday

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  • elsicilian says:

    @Faust – your opinion notwithstanding, Chael IS a reasonable substitute.

    Sure he’s 2-2 in his last four fights, but that’s the most misleading 2-2 ever. In the last three and a half years, he’s beaten Dan Miller, Yushin Okami, Nate Marquardt, Brian Stann, and Michael Bisping. He’s lost to exactly one guy … Anderson Silva (and he came closer than anyone ever in the UFC to beating him too).

    So obviously he’s a high-level UFC fighter, and beyond that he can make the weight, and he’s promotable from the UFCs perspective. You really don’t need to worry about anything more than that (again, the question is not does he “deserve” a title shot, the question is can he serve as a plausible opponent for a last minute fill in). Buy the show or don’t, but if JBJ takes the fight, at least the show goes on.

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  • Lord Faust says:

    On the subject at hand, Vitor is a decent replacement if we can’t get Machida.

    Vitor has a decent light heavyweight record, was already training, and looks more like a challenger than anyone else who hasn’t opted out. With no Machida, this is the biggest name you can find. Sad that it’s another guy who was recently fighting 20 lbs. lighter.

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  • Lord Faust says:

    Having a squash match as a main event, or scrapping that fight seem like essentially the same thing. So, if the event could have handled a joke main event then why did it fold without it?

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  • Lord Faust says:

    Can someone explain the difference between Jones and Machida in this situation? Aside from 8 days’ notice versus 30 days?

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  • AlphaOmega says:

    You know what the argument will be Faust, why ask it? Everyone hating Jones right now will say that he’s the champ and Machida isn’t. It’s the champs job to fight whoever is put in front of him.

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  • elsicilian says:

    UFC 151 was supposed to be a showcase for JBJ. He was already booked to fight on the card, he was the centerpiece of the card, and it couldn’t exist without him. People had bought tickets, booked flights and hotels, the UFC ran ads, folks had planned their holiday weekend around this, etc. His taking the substitute fight would save the event, while his refusing to fight basically scuttled the whole show.

    Lyoto Machida was NOT booked to fight on UFC 152, absolutely nothing had been invested in him by anyone (with regard to the Sept. 22 show) and the event was NOT dependent on his participation in any way. He might lose his title shot by declining, but that decision affects nobody but himself.

    If you can’t see the difference, I just don’t know what to tell you …

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  • AlphaOmega says:

    The card could of existed without him if the UFC would of just done it, also the UFC asked two people, TWO people to fight Jones, out of the entire LHW, HW, and MW division of all the fighters that could of made the weight and probably would of fought on short notice, they asked two. That’s not smart business.

    Why couldn’t the UFC of taken A.S up on his offer? Are you saying that all the people that bought tickets would of actually been upset to see Silva instead of Jones fight? I think not, I think they would be more upset that the card was cancelled completely, instead of the UFC trying to save the card.

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  • JBAR says:

    There are a lot of things I do not like about Chael but he has got guts, I can’t believe guys turning down a shot with a months notice but Chael was willing to go on 8 days notice. Cut his nuts off and he would have to fight at 170, of course if you removed his vocal cords he would be a 145er.

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  • JBAR says:

    Hell, just scratch Jones and let Vitor and Chael go at it, at least it seems like they want to fight.

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  • G-DUB says:

    Does anyone really believe that Silva was serious about taking this fight? Perhaps, but based on his track record and previous comments, I’m thinking he was posturing. Similar to when you invite a friend to hang out on a Saturday night when you already know he has vacation plans …. I believe it was a gesture to get good press and on Dana’s good side. If Dana accepted his offer, Silva would’ve sh*t his pants and found a way out. Of course, this is simply speculation, but I don’t believe Silva truly wants any part of a JBJ fight.

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  • AlphaOmega says:

    Silva said he’d fight at LHW, but not against Jones to save the card. So now he wouldn’t of taken that fight, but he did offer to fight on the card

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  • AlphaOmega says:

    so no* not now..EDIT BUTTON

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  • G-DUB says:

    Thanks AO …. missed that detail.

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  • MCM says:

    Concerning UFC 151,
    Yes. Jon Jones dropped the ball on that one. But that’s because the UFC greased the ball and threw it at his feet, when he wasn’t looking. And yes, both the UFC and Jones came in to save the 152 card.

    As for Vitor, WTF!!!! First off, I never trust that Vitor will actually FIGHT on a card. The guys track record of pulling out is second to none. And for those of you that think Chael didn’t earn a title shot (and that includes Dana), what the fuck has Vitor ever done to deserve either of his last two title shots?
    Highsight and Superdave are absolutely right. Gustafsson and HW’s were the right call, not a couple of MW’s. There is already a title fight on the card, Jones didn’t even need to fight for the belt. Anderson Silva already laid out the blue print for fighting up a weight class, what the hell is the UFC thinking in pushing these undeserving MW’s into title fights?
    Jon Jones vs Roy Nelson is co headliner that would do huge numbers. Jones vs Kongo or Gonzaga would have been appropriate. Jones vs. Del Rosario, Johnson, Herman, or Schaub would be have been a good intro to the division without messing with anyone making a title run. Plenty of options besides pulling in a MW, that wasn’t even talking about going up to LHW, and giving them a title shot.
    This is one of the worst possible choices and I see absolutely NO justification for it.

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  • Richard Stabone says:

    “Yes. Jon Jones dropped the ball on that one. But that’s because the UFC greased the ball and threw it at his feet, when he wasn’t looking.”

    I told myself I wouldn’t get sucked into this again today but that’s pretty solid right there.

    Jon Jones has found himself in Lebron James territory overnight. He’s the focal point of the entire MMA world right now. Sure a lot of it is negative vibes, but if Jones can avoid making the same mistake Lebron initially did of caring too much what people think of him, he’ll be fine. Plent of ppl suggested Lebron sabotaged his own career (including endorsement deals & everything else business-related) when he “betrayed” Cleveland to head to Miami. People were outraged…weren’t gonna watch Heat games…weren’t gonna buy Lebron’s shoes…blah blah blah. Yeah, how’d that work out?

    Haven’t we realized by now that’s not how the entertainment business works? Jones was already a star but he’s blown up into something much bigger overnight. DW and Jones will eventually look back on this and shake their heads & share a laugh about the craziness of it all. In the meatime, Jones has gotta have thick skin (which figures to be a challenge given his overly sensitive tendencies up to this point in his career) and just continue to dominate.

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  • AlphaOmega says:

    “In the mean time, Jones has gotta have thick skin (which figures to be a challenge given his overly sensitive tendencies up to this point in his career)”

    This is a very good point (by the way i fixed your typo) and I don’t know if Jones can just shrug it off. He’s shown time after time that trash talk and opinions get to him way more then they should.

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  • AlphaOmega says:

    By the way I want to put this out there. For all the people that agree with me, and disagreed with me, and there are a few that disagree with me heavily. Thanks for keeping it classy, many times these debates in these past 5 articles, could of taken a turn towards personal attacks, but it never happened.

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  • MCM says:

    @ Richard
    Sorry buddy, just when were were starting to see eye to eye. I wrote that before I read that Jones was gonna turn down a fight with anyone, now I blame him more than the UFC.
    But I solely blame the UFC for putting together the Vitor fight.

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  • elsicilian says:

    Good point Alpha, and I second that emotion re: the generally civilized disagreement.

    I am personally aggrieved because I had bought a ticket to the fight, booked a flight, reserved a hotel room, got time off work, etc. and planned to hit Vegas for my first live UFC show ever. Jon Jones was the one guy who could have saved the show, and he could have done it by accepting a fight vs. a reasonable opponent who he probably would have beaten (something that lots of guys have done in the past, and is sort of the unspoken expectation in the UFC).

    He was contractually within his rights to refuse the fight, but don’t kid yourselves: that was absolutely the proximate cause of the cancellation. I will never forgive him for that, and I’ll probably never bother making the effort to go to Vegas for a show again. Once bitten, twice shy.

    Thanks a lot, Chicken Bones …

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  • Lord Faust says:

    For the record, I have nothing consoling to say to the people who did lose money on fight camps, reservations, hotels, flights, vacation time off work, etc. This was supposed to be my birthday weekend kick-off; I haven’t had more-than two days off work in the last 7 months; although to a lesser extent, I am bummed out too.

    I’m just trying to approach this rationally. This situation is the definition of a cluster-fuck; here is room to blame just about every party involved for something. This isn’t just JBJ’s, Dana’s, Hendo’s, or the UFC’s fault; it’s a convergence of absolutely shitty logistics. The result of which is going to cost business owners, sponors, vendors, fighters, and the UFC a lot — especially in the long-term valuation of Zuffa.

    I could think of numerous ways this could have been handled better, starting with earlier disclosure from Hendo’s camp regarding his injury. With 3 weeks’ notice, we would have had better options and I am willing to bet JBJ would have taken all comers with even a remote chance to prepare for a new opponent.

    Dana’s press release and media call were embarassing, and I am sure neither FOX nor other sponsors / investors were impressed with how that went down. It looked bad, even if Dana was channelling a lot of the anger felt by other affected parties; he scapegoated the guy he is trying to sell as the reason to buy the PPV — that’s bad business, shitty ethics, and denotes a severe inability to accept responsibility. If Dana is the heart-and-soul of the UFC then it’s failures and missteps are his to bear, he can’t have it both ways. “All the good news is my doing, when things go wrong… FUCK GREG JACKSON”.

    So yeah, like I said…. Clusterfucker.

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  • elsicilian says:

    @Faust – I think if our situations were reversed, you would feel differently. Then again, maybe I would too. I am happy to agree to disagree on this point, and proceed to disagreeing on different points.

    AlphaOmega’s cumbaya moment has got me feeling all soft on the inside …

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  • Richard Stabone says:

    @MCM
    Given the unpredented circumstances, asking a guy to put his belt on the line against a new opponent less than 10 days out, you know Jackson was gonna advise Jones not to go down that path regardless of the opponent. So that doesn’t change my viewpoint at all on the matter.

    And forget about Jones who already is holding the belt, when every legitimate contender was going to pass up this (super short notice) chance at a title fight, that’s a pretty strong indicator how unrealistic this type of scenario really was. These are professional athletes, who have a relatively small career window. They don’t owe us jackshit, beyond meeting their contractual obligations (helloooo, Nick Diaz).

    Now again, this is a business & money always speaks very loudly, so I have to believe if the UFC had stepped up and opened the vault for Jones in order to salvage the event, something could have gotten done. But I also know that’s not DW’s type of tactic; he scrambles to pull together a plan and then expects the fighters to fall in line as employees and not pass up what he’s offering. When that breaks down, he starts seeing red and business sense & reasonable negotiation goes out the window. More simply, he takes his ball and goes home…while yapping to every person he sees along the way about what an asshole the guy who just crossed him is.

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  • Lord Faust says:

    @elsicilian — you’re probably right. I’d be livid if I tied up the time and money involved in a Vegas jaunt for a UFC fight worth doing. The personal impact on folks like yourself can easily get missed in the big picture debates. FWIW, I don’t make a king’s fortune, but I do OK, and having a venture like that completely shot-to-Hell would be pretty devastating to me. I’d like to think I’d be saying the same things but, shit, I’m human — I cannot say for sure.

    I don’t mind that we’re at odds here; much better than an echo chamber. I don’t mind being forced to think, even if I disagree with what I’m reading. :)

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  • MCM says:

    Faust, you’re absolutely right in that there is more than enough blame to go around. And the fact that Hendo is getting none of it IS surprising. But just like there is enough blame, no one is innocent. Jones is just as responsible for this mess as the UFC and just like Lesnar would have been responsible, GSP would have been responsible or any other fighter that is the main attraction for a card. That’s part of the deal when you headline, IMO. I’m glad that Jones stepped in at 152 and best case scenario, the UFC never puts together these “one fight” cards again.

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  • Richard Stabone says:

    I still strongly believe the UFC is much more blame (and ultimately accountable) for how this whole thing went down.

    But for the sake of discussion, let’s say the UFC & Jones each share the blame 50/50, and together should have figured out a way to salvage the event. What would that have meant?

    For Jones, it’s pretty obvious. He was being asked to go against the advice of his trainer and put his belt on the line against a new (undeserving) opponent, with only a few days to do any sort of real preparation. I know people are taking this part for granted, as if it’s no big deal, but in reality we’re talking about a scenario that would have been totally unprecedented for a champion to be in. People are simply not recognizing the gravity of the situation found himself in, instead choosing to gloss over it with tired cliches about warrior spirit and champions taking on all comers.

    Now what about the UFC? Were they also prepared to share some of the risk by making some sort of unprecendented concession on their end as well? Wouldn’t that only be fair? It’s not like Jones asked them to build a shitty card tha couldn’t survive without him. How is that doing Jones any favors? So why should it be on Jones to clean up the UFC’s mess, without being handsomely rewarded for it? Something tells me Dana wouldn’t view it that way. But of course we’ll never know how that conversation actually went down.

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  • Lord Faust says:

    Stuff like this is also a good argument against your company president micro-managing everything whilst flying around the world 6-7 days a week.

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  • JBAR says:

    They should have made the bout with Chael a non title bout with the stipulation that if Chael won he would get a shot at the title next year.

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  • Lord Faust says:

    Word has finally come out that Hendo’s injury occurred over three weeks ago and his whole camp kept quiet about it.

    I’ll just leave that where it fell.

    (Starting to look like my conspiracy theory from last night wasn’t so crazy.)

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  • Richard Stabone says:

    Wow. Does seem pretty convenient for Chael, trying to force him in last minute.

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  • MCM says:

    What you fail to realize Richard is that Jones was getting ready to defend his belt for the past couple months. What the hell has he been doing if not getting ready to fight? What type of coaches and camp do you have that isn’t preparing you for anything (especially the takedown)? But you know what, let’s give it to him. Let’s say that a change of opponent (to one who is basically a lesser version of the fighter he was going to face) means that all the months of training are now useless and he has no idea what to do in the cage.
    So let’s not put his belt on the line, let him fight UP a weight class and take on a HW. If he wins, it raises his stock and adds to his legacy. If he loses, well he fought up a weight class on extremely short notice, and it would have no bearing on his standing in the LHW division. But he didn’t take that option. He chose to not fight ANYONE on “3″ days notice. Jones doesn’t want to put his belt on the line against a fighter he’s not prepared for, fine. But he was contracted to step in the cage on Sept 1st in Las Vegas and fight, just because the man standing across the cage is not named Dan Henderson is no reason to help cancel an event. It’s not his fault the UFC built a week card, but it is his fault for backing out when there were other options on the table.

    As for Faust, I doubt that it’s a conspiracy, but “booo” on Dan Henderson for not making the UFC brass aware of the situation and the potential for a fighter change. 3 week would have been enough time to at least put a contingency in place and neither the fans, the UFC and it’s affiliates, nor Jon Jones would be in the positions they are now.

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  • Lord Faust says:

    Chael was helping him train; whether Dan actively encouraged Chael’s actions is something we’ll never know.

    Still, it reeks of something dubious.

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  • MCM says:

    Just found out that Vitor has been training with the Blackzillians. If you beat ‘em, join ‘em, I guess.
    Any way, I hope they come up with a better game plan than “Stare at him while he elbows you in the face, then once in a while, rub your butt.”, as that didn’t work out too well last time.

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  • Lord Faust says:

    Vitor is one of the only Brazilians who does not put down roots in a fight camp; he’s been with the Blackzilians for a while now. He gets a lot of flack for that attitude, as it seems to be very different from most Brazilians’.

    Maybe Dolce is trying to sneak in, in his luggage, to find out what kind of crap these guys eat. ;)

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  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    Jon Jones has a right to turn down fights against people who dont deserve shots. Chael Sonnen does not deserve a shot in any way, shape or form. If his opponent gets injured and you expect Jones to just fight anyone, you are in a fantasy world. It is NOT his responsibility to fight anybody the UFC scrambles to put in front of him and it is NOT his fault that the card is too weak to proceed without him.
    Imo there are prolly 1 or 2…hundred guys more deserving of a shot at Jones than Chael or Belfort for that matter. If not Hendo and the show goes on, I would offer it too A.Silva, Machida, Gustafsson, Taixera, Mousasi, Shogun, Rashad in that order. If they all say no or are not able to fight I would call the fight off.

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  • Mad_Hatter_XX says:

    I see a short, painful night for Vitor. Deserving or not, who he does or does not train with. I see Vitor on the receiving end of an ass beating he won’t soon forget.

    Maybe he should get in touch with Shogun and ask him best way to recover from a Jon Jones administered ass beating.

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