Lyoto Machida, Chris Weidman likely headed for non-title fights in near future

UFC President Dana White cleared up a number of matters this week in a detailed interview with UFC Tonight where he addressed a slew of subjects including the futures of Lyoto Machida and Chris Weidman. Both men were recently labeled as top contenders by the organization’s brass, though now it appears neither will be getting a crack at a championship without at least one more victory in tow albeit for different reasons.

Machida, who earned his title-shot with an August knockout of Ryan Bader, turned down a bout with divisional king Jon Jones at UFC 152 based on the need for time to train properly given the stakes involved. Unfortunately, his caution apparently came with a cost.

“Machida is not next in line now. He will need to fight somebody else first,” explained White. “Before this happened, he was terrorizing me for a title shot. Then he said four weeks wasn’t enough.”

It also looks like the unbeaten Weidman will be taking to the Octagon again before sniffing Anderson Silva’s strap though not necessarily because he’s done anything wrong.

“I know what I’m going to do with Weidman. He is going to fight. I don’t know who. Is he going to get a title fight? I don’t know. We’ll see what happens,” said White, making it clear he didn’t want to jump the gun again by promising something that wasn’t set in stone.

Silva’s camp has shrugged off the notion of facing Weidman, asking for an adversary with more star-power to go along with contendership credentials. The middleweight champ is also focused on a possible fight with Georges St-Pierre and is waiting to see if their match-up materializes in the coming months.

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16 COMMENTS
  • fanoftna33 says:

    easy soultion here, just have them fight each other.

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  • JBAR says:

    I don’t have an issue with either of these decisions.

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  • JBAR says:

    If the Bisping Stann winner gets A. Silva then give Wiedman the loser. If they make the GSP vs A. Silva fight happen next then let him fight the winner in a #1 contender match.

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  • Brendhan Conlan says:

    Stann doesn’t deserve a title-shot or even a top contendership shot after being choked out by Chael Sonnen. At least Bisping’s lone loss in his recent stretch was a controversial decision.

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  • JBAR says:

    Brendhan,

    If the GSP A. Silva match does not happen for whatever reason, who would you put in with A. Silva to keep him active? I guess you could go with A. Belcher or Jake Shields. It is pretty tough to get excited about any of them vs Silva.

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  • THEGUNNER says:

    if bisping wins in good fashion he should get a title shot if stann wins he should need 1 more fight. I picture bisping winning by points or getting stopped by gnp. Im wondering how many people would like to see bisping fight for a title. I would watch. im sure silva would beat him pretty easily.as far as gsp vs silva I think its a tease to keep us around I think the ufc is to selfish to let us have that fight.

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  • Richard Stabone says:

    If Silva really is determined to fight GSP next, he’s looking at an extended period of inactivity.

    First off, by the time GSP defends his belt against Condit later this year, it will already have been 5 and 1/2 months since Silva last fought.

    Then GSP would have to move up in weight. Even at a catchweight of ~178 lbs, that would still take a while to put the fight together, as GSP has always talked about how he’ll use a methodical approach to pack on the extra weight thru a gradual shift in diet, training, etc. if/when he decides to go that route. So how soon would he realistically be ready to face Silva? Perhaps the middle of 2013?

    And after the past year, the last thing the WW division needs is its champion to take a hiatus from the division for a super fight. So I don’t think that fight will happen. I don’t blame Anderson for trying, but the timing & overall circumstances just don’t make it feasible. And I think Silva probably realizes this and will simply hold out until another suitable opportunity comes his way. Hell, if we can believe him he apparently had attempted contacting DW about fighting this past weekend to save the UFC 151 card.

    As for the rest of the MW division, it’s still pretty much wide open. While the contendership picture sorts itself out, I wish Silva would friggin fight Jon Jones already. Once Hendo went down with injury they should have booked the super fight that actually makes sense. Silva must really want nothing to do with Jones.

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  • Screenplaya says:

    I think the winner of Stann/Bisping will get the shot because both will be easy fights to market. The unstoppable machine versus either the Brash Brit or the American Hero? Easy sell.

    I think that fight will take place before the superfight, but I think we might actually get to see the superfight because it is good business. If GSP loses, no trouble, he stays at 170 (he wont need to evolve to move up to 178). If GSP wins, maybe he moves up, takes the title, and leaves the chock-full 170 division to fend for itself.

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  • Rich, Both Jones AND Silva have stated they really want nothing to do with fighting each other on several occasions.

    WW wont be inactive because Carlos Condit is going to put GSP to sleep with a knee late in round 2 and take his belt so afterwords GSP can go to 185, 205, 155, it wont matter, he wont be the champion.

    Now as for this article, that sucks for Lyoto, as he was promised if he wont impressively he would get a title shot and how much more impressive do you get than flooring Bader with a backing up hook?
    Weidman needs to shut the fuck up about an immediate title shot already. He’s beaten one contender in his career and doesnt even have as many fights as Silva has title defenses. Belcher deserves the fight more than weidman as he’s finished former title contenders and destroyed the next big thing at MW(Palhares) in his own realm on the ground. Weidman needs to quit pandering for a title shot and get ready for Belcher, because if he turns the fight down or looks past the talent he’ll wake up a few steps back in the contender line.

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  • Rece Rock says:

    It all comes down to $$$ and how you play the game…. Weidman want a shot then he needs to be a bigger player in the game, build up your brand, get noticed by the casuals and make 2 more big statements in the cage…

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  • MCM says:

    No love for Tim Boetsch on 5oz? 4 fight win streak, only guy to beat two top 10ers, undefeated at MW? That’s more than Bisping, Stann, Belcher and Weidman can claim.

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  • Richard Stabone says:

    Boetsch probably doesn’t get as much credit as he deserves but it’s just hard to get too excited about that dude. He was getting beat up pretty good thru the bulk of the Okami fight, before turning the tables in the 3rd round for the impressive TKO finish. And then in his most recent fight against Lombard, there was talk of Lombard being hurt and, regardless of injury speculation, Lombard probably won the fight anyway.

    But at the end of the day, a win is a win is a win and Tim’s got 4 of ‘em in a row. He certainly doesn’t need to apologize for any of them but, fair or not, style often matters more than it should and that seems to be what’s holding him back. I think he’ll need another win to really stake his claim to a #1 contender bout (or title shot depending on the other moving parts).

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  • MCM says:

    Weidman/Boetsch for the title shot, makes perfect sense in my book. Belcher fights the winner of Bisping/Stann for the next shot.

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  • Richard Stabone says:

    “Rich, Both Jones AND Silva have stated they really want nothing to do with fighting each other on several occasions.”

    Yeah, I realize Jones has expressed his reluctance as well but he’s had no reason to fight Anderson Silva, with legend Dan Henderson on his radar.

    Silva is the guy with no one to fight. Silva is the guy who has entertained the idea of super-fights for years now, between both boxing and MMA. Silva is the guy calling out a fighter from a different weight class.

    So it seems that Silva’s as down as ever to make a super-fight happen, but instead of calling out the fight that is just begging to be made (Silva vs. Jones, once Hendo went down with the knee injury), he’s calling out a guy who will have been out of action for 18 months by the time he next fights, in a division that is desperate to have the championship belt back in the mix. In other words, he’s got his sights set on the option makes almost no sense, while ignoring the option that is right there for the picking.

    That’s why I made the comment about Silva clearly wanting nothing to do with Jones. I get that Jones has downplayed the potential matchup as well, but if Silva was calling for the matchup in the same respectful way he is with GSP, who knows how Jones would respond… especially in the midst of these other underwhelming options like Chael, Vitor, Lyoto (who he already beat less 10 months ago). And on the heels of the UFC 151 fallout when Jones is dealing with backlash; would he really refuse another fight under more ideal circumstances? I kinda dout it.

    Clearly it’s Silva who wants no part of that fight, but I wish DW would turn up the public pressure, manipulating the fans/media like he’s known to do from time to time and maybe, just maybe, that could shift Silva’s perspective…. he’s a very proud dude, and if there was public pressure for him to fight Jones, it would be much harder to back down from it. As it is, people just shrug their shoulders and say, “Welp, they don’t wanna fight each other” and in doing so let Silva off the hook. He can keep talking about GSP instead, with no pressure whatsoever.

    So yeah, I don’t expect Jones-Silva to happen, which is a damn shame. And given all the other crazy talk lately and how easy it is for the twitter crowd & overall MMA world to get riled up, I just don’t understand why there isn’t more uproar for this matchup to be made. At this moment, there are no intriguing options in either MW or LHW for either guy’s next title defense….the stars are perfectly aligned!!. And yet it won’t happen. Once Silva retires, this will be the fight more than any other potential pairing in MMA history that I’ll wish would have happened & be left wondering how it would have played out.

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  • Richard Stabone says:

    @MCM – I’d swap Boetsch & Belcher in your scenario, but depending on Belcher’s injury status your option might work end up being the way to go.

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  • Either way Weidman should fight Boestch OR Belcher
    He’s not earned a title shot yet in my eyes and I thinkk Weidman would have a tougher time with the grappling chops of Belcher (Just ask Palhares) than he would The Barbarian.

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