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Ronda Rousey: “I think I’ve got two years left in me…”

Ronda Rousey: “I think I’ve got two years left in me…”

Like it or not, it looks like UFC bantamweight champ Ronda Rousey is already thinking about life after Mixed Martial Arts and recently revealed she could retire much sooner than expected. According to Rousey, she has always seen her stint in the sport as a four-year deal, meaning she wants to be out of it and on to the next task by the time she’s 28.

“I think I’ve got two years left in me, realistically, if I’m going to do this like an Olympic run,” admitted Rousey in an interview with MMAJunkie.

Asked about the impact her current stardom had on her mindset, Rousey confessed it was much easier to make a living off scripted action in comparison to that with real life stakes.

“I think one profession has a much-longer shelf life than the other. My last fight, I was kind of forced to face my mortality a little bit. I had an air of invincibility about me, and I was kind of forced to realize statistically there is a chance you could get permanently hurt or even die. There’s only so many times you can roll the dice,” said Rousey. “I am the best f*cking fighter in the world, and I truly believe that, but you’re still rolling the dice no matter who you are, so I do have to kind of set up an exit strategy. That’s what I did wrong in judo. I followed it all the way until the end, and I didn’t put any thought into after.”

Rousey has already been linked to film roles in the blockbuster franchises for Expendables as well as Fast and Furious. On the in-ring front, Rousey will defend her title against rival Miesha Tate on December 28 at UFC 168.

60 COMMENTS
  • SBERG says:

    That’s probably one of the single most refreshing things I’ve ever heard any athlete in any sport say……She just earned major respect points in my book….

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  • darth_irritable says:

    Yeah – I agree. Interestingly, 2 years is about the time it takes for the rest of a set of athletes to catch up.

    Royce Gracie changed the world in 1993, but by ’95 the rest of the field had caught up. Two years should be enough time for people to figure out and learn to defend the armronda.

    Her run will end just as people are getting to the point they can beat her.

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  • SBERG says:

    Unless she fights Cyborg soon she’s gonna be out of fights….I mean she has Cat when she gets healthy and the girl that just beat Kedzie and that’s pretty much it……Not knocking any of the other girls but the talent pool isn’t really deep yet……So I agree with you darth…

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  • AlphaOmega says:

    That’s just the people in UFC SBERG, Dana has already said they’d work out a deal with Invicta if they had to

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  • raker says:

    She’ll get her ass handed to her by Mann before the two years is up.

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  • raker says:

    McMann.. Oops

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  • Brendhan Conlan says:

    Ronda as potential fights on the horizon with McMann and Zingano, not to mention possible rematches with Carmouche and Kaufman. Throw in Amanda Nunes and, even if she stays unbeaten, Rousey has a lot to occupy herself with over the next 2+ years.

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  • darth_irritable says:

    Is it just me, or is the Rousey/Cyborg comparison very similar to the Gracie/Shamrock thing in UFC 2/3.

    Even down to the positive steroid test.

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  • MCM says:

    That’s true Brendhan, but if she never fights Cyborg, that will be huge stain on her career and I can’t see her calling it quits while there’s still a fighter that could smash her competing.

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  • SBERG says:

    @ Alpha…True but he hasn’t made a deal yet so I guess we’ll cross that bridge when we get there.
    @ Brendhan….I guess I should of said rematches withstanding…..But yea she has fights…..
    @ MCM….I think everyone on the planet wants to see her fight Cyborg but if Ronda is serious about what she says and Cyborg keeps avoiding dropping weight then it’s not going to happen…

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  • raker says:

    I don’t see Rousey/Cyborg like Gracie/Shamrock but more like Fedor/Couture or, for many years, Liddel/Wanderlei. Best in their respective organizations but not able to fight. Hopefully it ends up more like the latter than the former.

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  • darth_irritable says:

    I was thinking in terms of one fighter being extremely good on one dimension of their game, and the only real competition being a muscle bound Roid freak.

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  • Brendhan Conlan says:

    A huge stain on her career = passing on a competitor in a weight-class above her?

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  • Richard Stabone says:

    I guess it depends on what type of context MCM is thinking about when he talks about Ronda avoiding Cyborg as a potential stain on her career. For those of us that follow this stuff really close, on more of a micro level, then sure I think some of us would always feel like she helped shape the inaugural UFC WMMA division in a way that provided shelter from Cyborg. Hell, Ronda competed at 70 kilos in judo (154+ lbs) and has competed in MMA at 145, so fighting Cyborg at 145 hardly would have been stretching above her competitive fighting weight. Far more reasonable than expecting Cyborg to shed all that weight from her frame.

    But back to Ronda… on a macro level, she’s got so many positive vibes going for her in so many different aspects of her career that any Cyborg stuff will barely be a mark on her career.

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  • SBERG says:

    All the more reason for Cyborg to come down….Ronda shed the weight and did ok plus she didn’t get popped for roids….I just don’t buy into any scenario where Ronda should meet her halfway or come up to Cyborg’s weight. You don’t reward a steroid offender a gift wrapped title shot at her desired weight class….If she wants Ronda and that belt, bust your ass and lose the weight and come and earn your shot.

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  • darth_irritable says:

    But Brendhan, while it’s not going to be an irreversible blight on her career, remember Rousey has competed the majority of her career at 145 or higher (she won silver at the worlds at 154) and is still ranked #3 in Judo at that weight. As soon as Cyborg called her out, she dropped.

    Bottom line, she’s a very successful competitor at that weight class, but dropped when faced with a real threat at that weight. To those with full history, it sure looks like ducking.

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  • AlphaOmega says:

    I want to point something out about Cyborg that so many people bring up, she didn’t get popped for roids, she got popped for a pill that helped her shed the weight come weight-ins, still a banned substance though.

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  • SBERG says:

    Dana said he wanted the women weight class at 135lbs. Ronda met the requirements. Cyborg refused to come down for whatever reason she wants to use. Ok so I misstated what she was banned for but she was still banned for illegal substances. So now the champ who met all requirements set forth by the promotion that crowned her should all of a sudden have to move away from her championship weight class to fight a just suspended substance offender because the offender can’t **cough bullshit cough** come down to the required weight all other fighters in the division are at to earn a title shot? And…And..And… now we accuse the champ of ducking? DAFUQ is dat about?
    Ronda did nothing and I mean NOTHING wrong here other than play by the rules as a champion is supposed to do…I mean look, I’ve said time and time again I want to see these two go at it but if it’s at the cost of rewarding a substance abuser who refuses to accept the terms the promotion who is giving her the shot to fight, then screw her. Let her and Tito call Ringling bros. and she can be the freakshow she’s been made out to be…

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  • SBERG says:

    According to UFC”s website –

    Ronda Rousey – 5’7….Jessica Andrade 5’3…Liz Carmouche 5’6…Alexia Davis 5’6…Germaine De Randamie 5’9….
    Sheila Graf 5’5…. Sarah Kaufman 5’5….Julie Kedzie 5’5…Sarah McMann 5’6…Amanda Nunez 5’5…Rosi Sexton….5’3
    Miesha Tate 5’6…Cat Zigano 5’6…
    .And now of course Cristiane Justino 5’7 to 5’8 depending on what site you look at….
    So everyone is within 3 to 4 inches of each other and all can make weight including Germaine who’s taller than everyone but because of Cyborgs “Frame” she can’t make 135? B.S.
    As I stated in a above post….You want the belt, bust your ass and lose the weight and come fight for it.

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  • Brendhan Conlan says:

    Alpha – Regardless of her intent, “Cyborg” tested positive for an anabolic steroid (Stanozolol).

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  • SBERG says:

    TY for the clarification Brendhan…..

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  • MCM says:

    first off, Height does not equal Frame size. Cain Valesquez and George Roop are the same height. One fights at HW and the other at BW, lets not pretend that Cain can just “bust his ass and lose the weight.”

    and second, it’s not about Cyborg dropping the weight but about the two best female fighters of their generation squaring off. Like raker said, this is more akin to Fedor/Couture in that people will always say, “sure she was great. But what if she had fought Cyborg/Rhonda in her prime?” This goes for both fighters, but since Rhonda is the one talking of walking away from the sport, we’re saying her career won’t be complete without fighting Chris. Is Chris was talking of leaving we’d be saying the same thing about her not facing Rhonda.

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  • SBERG says:

    Cain is 240, George is 135….bad comparison. Were talking about two people that are within 10 pounds of each other.If you would of said Cormier not wanting to drop to 205 to fight Jones( I know Cormier will, just using it as a point) then your argument has more merit. “Frame” in whatever capacity your implying doesn’t apply. And no this isn’t like Fedor and Couture..Neither of those two were busted for roids. Plus there was a contract issue keeping that from happening. There was no such issue keeping Cyborg from signing, she just didn’t want to cut weight. So again, big difference. She made the choice not Ronda.
    Just about any champion is gonna have someone or multiple someone’s from their past to compare the woulda,coulda,shoulda’s too. Heck look at Mike Tyson….what if he didn’t go to prison and coulda fought Evander or Riddick Bowe in his prime? What if Mayweather and Manny fought? The comparison is always gonna be there.

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  • darth_irritable says:

    Yeah – Stan is specifically used to cut weight while retaining muscle.

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  • darth_irritable says:

    and it is definitely a steroid.

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  • darth_irritable says:

    SBerg, the knock on Rousey in my opinion is not that she’s not going up to meet Juicehead McPenisclit.

    It’s that while the 145 division was fully viable, with a good pool of contenders, she dropped a division as soon as Cyborg wanted to play.

    Also, dropping the 7 or 8 percent of additional bodyweight would be tough for an athlete as shredded as Cyborg is. Of course, if she wasn’t walking around sweating nandrolone between fight camps, she’d probably be bit lower anyways.

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  • Brendhan Conlan says:

    Tell me more about this “good pool of contenders” at 145 pounds you speak of…

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  • darth_irritable says:

    OK, fair, that might have been a bit of an overstatement. But the pool of talent was comparable between 145 and 135 at the time. For God’s sake, Roxanne Modafferi was near the top of the 135 division and got KO’d by Kaufman right before Kaufman fought for the title. At 145 you had Cyborg, Budd, and intermittently Coenen.

    But then, after calling out Cyborg Rousey dropped to a lighter division she’d never fought in, giving every appearance of hunting a vulnerable champion while ducking a dominant one.

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  • MCM says:

    SBEG. You’re the one that used Height as a means of comparison. I simply pointed out that saying someone who is 5’8″ should be able to cut weight to fight someone who is 5’6″ because their so close in height is a ridiculous comparison and used Cain, 6’1″, and Roop, also 6’1″, as an example. That’s not a bad comparison, that’s a perfect comparison. And I think “Frame” is pretty universal. Some people are just naturally Bigger without necessarily being Taller.

    If you don’t see the comparison to Fedor/Couture, that’s OK. I make the connection do to it being two dominant forces that can’t/won’t come together to compete. I know they’re in different weight classes, but because WMMA is still relatively new and lacking in star power, they get lumped in together in my head.

    Also, darth makes some great points about Rhonda’s previous fight weights.

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  • SBERG says:

    @ darth….
    I thought I mentioned it in a previous post…..Dana made the womens division 135lbs. He knew the talent pool was greater there than at 145lbs. That’s why Rousey dropped..not because of Cyborg. Please stop with that already. Cyborg will not cut weight because she can’t play on a fair battlefield. The more this goes on the more I wonder if she really is clean now in Invicta. Does anyone know their drug testing policy? Do we know that Cyborg hasn’t figured out how to cheat without getting caught?
    I mean look at her, you don’t physically transform to part Cro-Magnon naturally. And I’m talking from the neck up….Her face is not normal. That’s mass abuse right there staring right at you.

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  • darth_irritable says:

    That’s not actually true SBerg. Dana formed the 135 well after Rousey made the drop. In fact, he made the division SOLELY because Ronda was competing in it. Even while Ronda was the 135 Strikeforce Champ, Dana was saying they wouldn’t have women in the UFC.

    You can retcon history, but not THAT much. It’s extremely well documented that the UFC announced the division after Rousey dropped. At the time, there was no indication either division would ever make it to the UFC.

    And I agree, Cyborg’s a roid freak. Never tried to deny it. There are plenty of ways to beat the test though.

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  • SBERG says:

    @ MCM….
    Yes I used height as a comparison, between two people that are 10 pounds apart, not 105. So in that essence “frame” doesn’t apply. And in reality Cain could cut to 135, it wont be healthy and he’ll look like crap but it can be done. As well as Roop going up to Heavyweight. It would take a ton of time but it can be done. Heck I could use myself as a example….I’m a recovering alcoholic/ drug addict. At the beginning of July I weighed 150lbs and I’m 6’1. Since then I work out 2 days on one day off and eat alot more and take weight gain shakes and most of all stay clean. So now I’m 170lbs and looking to get to around 185lbs . So height in reality doesn’t matter as far as going up and down in weight if it’s done right. I think that’s my overall point in all this.
    Cyborg just doesn’t want to do it …..And as I stated above I’m starting to believe because she still isn’t clean.

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  • Brendhan Conlan says:

    Rousey had four pro fights before dropping to 135 pounds. It’s pretty common for struggling up-and-comers to take fights where they’re offered without concern for cutting weight, is it not? Now she has the money and support to train properly, i.e. fight at her ideal weight. Meanwhile, “Cyborg” had fought eleven times (including 4X in Strikeforce) before Rousey even made her AMATEUR debut.

    Why is this even a discussion? There’s no logical reason for her to bulk back up to fight a woman who, at this point, is one legit win removed from a steroid suspension. She doesn’t need “Cyborg” to cement anything. Rather, it’s the other way around.

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  • SBERG says:

    When Rousey was in strikeforce UFC already owned it, you don’t think discussions were well under way about creating the division and Rousey dropping during that period? I can tell your infatuated with the idea that Rousey is afraid of Cyborg but I think your dead wrong on this one…..I think she just knows that the only way Cyborg makes 135 is without roids and for that I don’t blame Rousey at all….

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  • SBERG says:

    Once again…TY Brendhan

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  • SBERG says:

    Ok I gave everyone a thumbs up on this thread , even the people I gave a thumbs down too..lol Good thread…Me likes alot…

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  • darth_irritable says:

    Brendhan, I don’t actually think she has to go up at all. As you say, she’s a dominant champ, she has all the publicity and credibility now Cyborg confirmed she’s on the juice. I don’t think there’s anything in it for her to even take a catchweight fight, other than bragging rights if she won.

    My point is just that you can’t look past Rousey dropping from a weight class at which she had competed (or heavier) her entire amateur and pro career (including Judo) where there was a dominant champ who IMHO she had little chance of beating, to one where there was a very beatable set of fighters. I’d argue that’s the same reason Coenen dropped and Carano left the sport – I really like both of them, but it is what it is.

    There’s an article from before Rousey even made the drop where Cyborg says she wanted the fight, but Strikeforce told her Rousey wasn’t ready and would probably drop to 135.

    None of which means she has to go up, but I think you have to recognize at least the possibility of ducking Cyborg. We’re going to end up agreeing to disagree on this. I think that’s what she did. You don’t. One of them has a very successful history at both weight classes, the other has never shown the ability to go down.

    Either way she’s a dominant champ, and while I think she’s about as sharp as a bag of mud, she’s still the #1 BW in the world, and if Cyborg makes 135, I still personally think that’s a fight Rousey wants no part of.

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  • SBERG says:

    Sorry Dude…Can’t recognize it. Rousey isn’t ducking…She’s right there…all Cyborg has to do is hit 135 and it’s game time but she won’t do it.

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  • raker says:

    Two things to add….

    1. If the money is right either Ronda will move up or Cyborg will move down. They’re both competitors and provided they’re free from contractual obligations and paid enough there’s no way it won’t happen. In some ways it’s better to wait a bit and let the anticipation build because it will increase interest and make them all more money.

    2. Off topic but it was said so I have to respond..
    There is no way that Cain Velasquez could ever make 135 pounds unless you start removkng body parts. Sure he and Roop are the same height but the bone structure and frames are different. Manute Bol was over 7 and a half feet and only 200 pounds. Shaq is over 7 feet and well over 300 pounds. Height is not an indicator of body structure or weight.

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  • SBERG says:

    You ever see the movie the The Mechanic starring Christian bale? You know who Joe Riggs is right?

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  • Richard Stabone says:

    Another comparison I’d toss out there is the super fight talk around Anderson Silva & Jon Jones. Silva has competed at 205 and had success there, but obviously his comfort zone is MW. Meanwhile, Jon Jones wouldn’t be able to realistically cut to MW. If that fight is ever gonna happen it’s fairly obvious what division it would take place in.

    Similar to Silva, Ronda has experience fighting at a higher weight (145 lbs, and even higher in her Olympic days), while Cyborg cutting to 135 would be a drastic and potentially dangerous proposition. So if that fight is every gonna happen it’s pretty obvious where it would have to take place, and if the fight never comes to fruition it’s pretty clear who’s shying away from whom. But the ways things are currently set up with only one UFC WMMA division, and Ronda with absolutely everything going for her, I don’t blame her for being perfectly happy to stick with what’s working for her (kinda like Money Mayweather, to toss another name in there).

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  • Richard Stabone says:

    @SBERG…

    The Machinist… I think The Mechanic is a porn flick :)

    And yes, Bale gave an example of what the human body is capable of withstanding when pushed to the brink, but that doesn’t exactly translate to professional athletes/competition.

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  • darth_irritable says:

    Spot on Richard. And to look at Riggs as an example, look at how much it’s hurting him to drop weight on fight master. I think one more class would literally kill him, and his physique now is comparable to cyborgs, relatively speaking

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  • SBERG says:

    Sorry don’t agree about Cyborg cutting being dangerous and all that…..Only danger is how quick she’ll get handled having to fight clean and fair. She’s just making excuses.
    And HA!!! about The Mechanic…maybe your right about it being a porn flick…I really don’t know.
    The point being made was anyone at any size can change in one way or another.That’s why I threw Joe Riggs in there. True it might not always be healthy. But when talking about two women who are only about a inch apart in height and 10lbs apart in weight there’s no excuse. Stay clean,lose the weight naturally and earn your shot. If Ronda can go from 154 to 135 and be dominant so can Cyborg. Alot of the other girls in the division have cut weight and they’re fine.
    I’ll say it again, It makes me wonder if Cyborg has ever really cleaned up?
    And someone mentioned the money aspect. So not signing with UFC and potentially getting a cut of the PPV for the fight with Rousey and staying with Invicta is more profitable? Ummmmm I think she might wanna rethink having Tito as her manager. I think the Roids are affecting her Medulla Oblongata.

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  • SBERG says:

    Ok everyone it’s been fun today but I got meetings, I’ll be back to stir the pot later….Enjoy your Saturday night and stay outa trouble and most of all Don’t Drink and Drive. A cab is only a phone call away….Cya.

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  • darth_irritable says:

    The thing I like us that even though we disagree (you’re wrong sberg – you couldn’t be wronger if your name was Wrongy Wrongenberger) but it all remained civil. Unlike the douchebags on most of the internets.

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  • raker says:

    That’s awesome Darth and I agree… With all of it..:)

    Cutting weight isn’t easy, especially when you’re already lean. Anyone remember James Irvin at MW? Cormiers kidney fromweight cutting? It’s dangerous when you’re drawn out and weak to climb in there.

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  • SBERG says:

    Ok there Nelly Knownuthin…. Ummm If I thought you had half a clue what right or wrong was I might and I say might be offended….But I don’t so I’m not….. Now on to more important matters…..If ya wanna sleep with Cyborg that bad just email him…I mean her…lol

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  • SBERG says:

    @ raker…yea your right except that when your juiced up. Quit the juice and shrink back to normal then cut weight like everyone else in the division….it’s that simple. How you two can’t figure this out is beyond me but it’s cool.

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  • darth_irritable says:

    Brendhan, comment coming fur you to moderate that has a link

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  • darth_irritable says:

    See the article at http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/md71.htm

    There’s an excellent summary of coming off gear, including a couple of academic articles referencing reversion to more youthful test levels. This also gels with anecdotal evidence from some ex users that after about an 18-24 month period clean, test levels revert to close to on gear levels. See photos of 90 s body builders lee Labrada and Dorian Yates – both users then – today.

    If you’ve been in bodybuilding circles long enough, and asked the right people the right questions, you’d know it’s not as simple as “get off the gear”. I’m not cyborgs endocrinologist, and neither to my knowledge is anyone here, but lets at least consider all the ramifications.

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  • darth_irritable says:

    And this whole discussion presupposes Cyborg is a long term juicer. I think she probably is, but there’s no a trial e diencephalic to support it.

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  • darth_irritable says:

    Stupid iPhone. No actual evidence to support it.

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  • SBERG says:

    “And this whole discussion presupposes Cyborg is a long term juicer. I think she probably is, but there’s no a trial e diencephalic to support it.”…………….

    Except that she got popped for Stanozolol, got suspended for a year and looks like what Fallon Fox was before surgery. But No there’s no proof……..C’mon dude just stop already.
    And I was kidding about the post above, actually thought the wrongy thing was funny.

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  • SBERG says:

    “So you decide to stop using and within a few months (the wimp transformation starts after about three to four weeks depending on how much stuff you’ve been on) you lose so much size that even your own mother doesn’t recognize you. “Junior, is that you or has your sister’s beard gotten thicker?” You can’t stand losing all that meat and sizzle.

    So you go back on and get your muscle mass and energy back, but you’re scared stiff that you’re hurting yourself. So what’s a guy to do? Why is it so hard to get off the drugs?

    The problem of course is that coming off the drugs is not as easy as everyone thinks it is. JUST SAY NO! doesn’t cut it. When you stop using drugs, and this is especially true of the use of testosterone and the anabolic steroids, but is also true to varying degrees of GH, thyroid hormone, and various drugs that affect the neurotransmitters in the brain, THE BODY NEEDS TO READJUST ITSELF TO REALITY. It needs to adapt as best it can to the new situation.”

    This was wrote within the first few paragraphs of the article you posted. That right there just negated everything your trying to tell me as well as backed up everything I said. Notice the part I put into caps..” THE BODY NEEDS TO READJUST ITSELF TO REALITY”. So again I’ll say it….I know you hate hearing this by now…..If Cyborg wants to fight( she doesn’t), get off the juice, let your body go back to normal standards, bust your ass and make weight and earn your shot. If she needs another year off , fine take a year off and do it healthy. Believe me I don’t want the girl to hurt herself . She’s done that to herself already by taking the crap she’s on.

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  • MCM says:

    This shit got WAAAYYY off topic. But it’s a fun discussion so I’m gonna jump back in anyway.

    I think it’s pretty low to insult Cyborg for her appearance. So she’s not Gina or Rhonda, very few are. But she’s still feminine and not 1/10th as Man-ish as the female body builders she’s constantly compared to. Of course she looks shredded at the weigh ins. So does everyone, especially those that cut a lot of weight like Cris. And, yes, she got popped once and now everyone says “Look at her. She’s been on the stuff for years!” You know who else got popped? Chris Leben. Does he look like a juice monkey? Or how about Tim Sylvia? Is that the body the body of a God or what? Cyborg is just naturally bigger than most 135ers. I’m pretty sure Gina and Erin Toughill (also naturally larger women who had trouble making 145) couldn’t get to 135 either, unless they starved themselves for 2 months like Bale did.

    Back on topic. No one is saying Rhonda needs to bulk up and fight Cris. No one is saying she needs to leave the UFC to do it. All I’m saying (and I think those that are agreeing with me) is that IF she leaves in 2 years without having fought Cyborg, is there will always be that “what if?” about her career. In the same way that even though Fedor beat every almost every top 10 HW of his generation, there is always that “what if he fought in the UFC?” that follows him. For someone that has said she wants to be remembered as the best in the world, I just don’t think she should leave and what ifs.

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  • AlphaOmega says:

    To increase your point MCM, Barnett has been popped 3 times..does his body look like a juice monkey?

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  • Brendhan Conlan says:

    Agreed. A common misconception has to do with steroids equating to a shredded/muscular physique.

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  • darth_irritable says:

    Right. So there are two questions:

    Is she on the gear? In my opinion likely, since she’s been popped, and availability in Latin American countries is pretty high. However, her physique could easily have been achieved using supplements. I can assure you that the line between legal supplement and illegal drug is very fine, and with the right pharmacoepia of supplements, what she has is very achievable. King Mo got busted for the exact same drug but I don’t see anyone accusing him of long term juicing. Bottom line, we just don’t know for sure, and can’t, given the state of modern nutirition and sport science.

    Presupposing she is on the gear, can she get off and come down to fight Rousey. That’s more complicated. The point I was trying to make, but which you didn’t get to, is that if she’s a long term heavy user, her system will crash, and she’ll train/perform like crap for 8-24 months, at which time she’s not fighting anyone. After that, her system comes back, and because her body is used to being at roided levels, it comes back higher, so we are right back where we started from.

    Alternatively she has the Vitor problem, where she comes back lower than she should be, in which case she’s screwed too.*

    In either case, it’s not as simple as get clean and fight Rousey. Even if she gets clean – assuming she’s not – that fight may never happen because she’s either too sick or too big. But we can’t be 100% sure, since shes only been popped once in a long career. Unlike others named here.

    * I don’t think Vitor should get a TUE either BTW, but let’s save that discussion for a Vitor thread.

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  • SBERG says:

    Ok well someone dig up some pics of what Cyborgs face looked like years ago and compare it to now or I should say when she got popped and then we’ll see if roids didn’t have anything to do with her appearance. I mean guys look I really understand where everyone is coming from and everyone makes very solid points……But in this one instance, just this one there’s no way anyone is going to ever convince me that what she put in herself didn’t have a direct affect on what she grew to become. I’m sorry but the physical being of her just screams Roid abuse.
    Other than that I’ve enjoyed the Session we’ve had and hope to be part of more in future articles…..

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