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Evan Tanner not ruling out retirement

June 25, 2008 By: Sam Caplan Category: Evan Tanner 31 Comments →

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On his exclusive blog for SpikeTV.com, Evan Tanner reveals that he was devastated by Saturday’s split decision loss to Kendall Grove during the main event of the live season finale for “The Ultimate Fighter” and that he’s considering retirement.

“I was pissed off about the fight, f**king sad, f**king raging, on edge, all of it heavy with me, trying to maintain, trying not to explode,” a candid Tanner writes. “Camera men in my face, corner men, doctors, security, paramedics, friends, journalists, too many bodies crowding me, too many hands pulling me too many ways. I couldn’t move, I couldn’t breath, standing there afraid of the man that would come out if I lost control. I broke free, turned my back, stepped into the bathroom and closed the door. I tried to catch my breath in that small space, tried to calm down.”

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Kendall Grove on beating Evan Tanner

June 22, 2008 By: Adam Morgan Category: TUF 7, Evan Tanner, Kendall Grove No Comments →

TUF 7 Finale Video: Evan Tanner interview

June 18, 2008 By: Sam Caplan Category: TUF 7 Finale, Evan Tanner, UFC 1 Comment →

Evan Tanner signs contract to fight this summer

April 09, 2008 By: Sam Cupitt Category: Evan Tanner No Comments →

In former UFC middleweight champion Evan Tanner’s most recent post on his website, he confirmed that all the documentation has been signed for his next fight this summer.

In true Tanner style he won’t name the opponent but as we read earlier this week on Kendall Grove’s personal website, the TUF 3 middleweight winner will be his opponent.

As a whole this isn’t really news because if you remember last month Tanner already stated that he had been given an opponent and a date for his next fight. The reason I post this “update” is because in the latest blog entry, Tanner asked for the MMA blogosphere’s help in spreading the word of the new shirt available from Team Tanner.

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Kendall Grove to face Evan Tanner at TUF 7 Finale

April 07, 2008 By: Sam Cupitt Category: TUF 7 Finale, Evan Tanner, Kendall Grove 18 Comments →

Kendall Grove will take on former UFC middleweight champion, Evan Tanner at the Ultimate Fighter 7 finale according to Grove’s personal website.

The match-up is listed in the “Upcoming Fight” section on the homepage.

Grove, the winner of TUF 3’s middleweight tournament is currently on a two fight losing streak following successive TKO losses to TUF 4 veterans, Patrick Cote and Jorge Rivera. ‘Da Spyder’ has a 3-2 record in the UFC scoring wins over Ed Herman, Chris Price and the talented but erratic, Alan Belcher.

Tanner recently made a return to mixed martial arts competition after nearly a two year hiatus from the sport. His comeback fight against top middleweight contender, Yushin Okami was unsuccessful however as he suffered a second round KO at the knee of Japanese fighter.

As stated above this fight will take place on the Ultimate Fighter 7 season finale which is set to take place on June 21 at The Palms, Las Vegas. The main event that night will be a welterweight clash between Diego Sanchez and Luigi Fioravanti.

Kudos to The Fight Network for the find.

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Evan Tanner: “Looks like I’ll be back in the Octagon this summer”

March 17, 2008 By: Sam Cupitt Category: Evan Tanner 25 Comments →

In his most recent post on his website, former UFC middleweight champion, Evan Tanner has stated that UFC matchmaker, Joe Silva has given him both an opponent and date for his next fight.

From EvanTanner.net:

Just talked with Joe Silva, the UFC matchmaker. He gave me a date and an opponent. Looks like I’ll be back in the Octagon this summer.

It’s good to have a fight scheduled. The last two weeks have been really rough. I’ll tell the story on that in the next few days.

Tanner recently made a comeback to fighting after nearly a two year layoff at this month’s UFC 82. It proved to be unsuccessful as Tanner suffered a second round knockout to top UFC middleweight Yushin Okami.

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UFC 82 Video: Evan Tanner returns against Yushin Okami

February 29, 2008 By: Sam Caplan Category: UFC 82, Evan Tanner, Yushin Okami 5 Comments →

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UFC 82 Results and Live Chat!

February 27, 2008 By: Adam Morgan Category: Jon Fitch, Cheick Kongo, Evan Tanner, UFC 82, Andrei Arlovski, Dan Henderson, Yushin Okami, Diego Sanchez, Josh Koscheck, Anderson Silva 5 Comments →

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We will be bringing you our coverage of UFC 82 this weekend with our patented LIVE chat , plus we’ll be updating the fight results as they happen. Five Ounces of Pain will be your destination for everything UFC 82 this weekend so keep this page bookmarked and be sure to join other 5 Oz. readers, staff, and other MMA fans on Saturday!

WHEN: Saturday, March 1st, 2008 - UFC 82 - Chat will start at 9 PM ET

WHAT: UFC 82 Live Results and Chat!

    MAIN CARD

  • CHAMPION Anderson Silva def. Dan Henderson (UFC Middleweight Title) via Rear Naked Choke (tapout) Rd 2 (12 secs left in round)
  • Heath Herring def. Cheick Kongo via Split Decision.
  • Chris Leben def. Alessio Sakara via TKO (Strikes) Rd 1.
  • Yushin Okami def. Evan Tanner via Knockout (Knee to head) Rd 2.
  • Jon Fitch def. Chris Wilson via Unanimous Decision.
  • PRELIMINARY CARD

  • Andrei Arlovski def. Jake O’Brien via TKO (Strikes from the mount) Rd 2.
  • Luigi Fioravanti def. Luke Cummo via Unanimous Decision.
  • Josh Koscheck def. Dustin Hazelett via TKO (head kick, then strikes) Rd 2.
  • Diego Sanchez def. David Bielkheden via Submission (Strikes) Rd 1.
  • Jorge Gurgel def. John Halverson via Unanimous Decision.

Evan Tanner talks getting back into fighting, Okami, Team Tanner and much more in this new 5 Oz. Interview!

February 12, 2008 By: Sam Cupitt Category: Evan Tanner 5 Comments →

I recently conducted an email-based interview with former UFC middleweight champion, Evan Tanner. Tanner has not fought since April of 2006 and will make his comeback against the talented, Yushin Okami at UFC 82. He managed to take some time out of his busy schedule to answer a few of my questions.

Sam Cupitt: Thanks for the interview Evan, how has it been going?

Evan Tanner: It’s been going great. Just been training, and working on some big projects.

Sam Cupitt: As everyone has probably heard, you will be fighting Yushin Okami on the UFC 82 card next month. Your last fight was back in 2006, and in between then and now you’ve gone on a bit of a roller coaster ride, which has been documented on your personal website. You probably don’t want to rehash all of it but was their a single point in time when you decided you just wanted to start fighting again?

Evan Tanner: Yeah, I’ve got the big fight with Okami coming up soon. I’m looking forward to that. I took a little break from the fighting, but I definitely didn’t quit, or retire. I’ve been in the game, fighting consistently for over ten years. I just wanted to take a little break. I went on some adventures, and took some time to take care of some things in my personal life, and now I’m ready to go again.

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Evan Tanner Officially Signed; Kos May Not Be Televised

January 26, 2008 By: Mike MacLeod Category: UFC 82, Dustin Hazelett, Evan Tanner, Josh Koscheck, Yushin Okami 12 Comments →

It’s official. Following rumors and speculation, UFC.com has listed a match between middleweights Evan Tanner and Yushin Okami at UFC 82. The event takes place Marh 1 in Columbus, Ohio.

This adds to what is already a stacked card and the result is bad news for Josh Koscheck and Dustin Hazelett. The fight between the two welterweights will occur prior to the live telecast and will only appear on the pay-per-view if time allows.

Former UFC middleweight champion, Tanner last fought in 2006 when he defeated Justin Levens at UFC 59. He then dropped out of fighting despite numerous rumors of his return. He has had a string of bad luck, including the sinking of his boat, much of which he has attributed to his problems with alcohol.

Okami holds a 21-4 record, including five wins and one loss in the UFC. He has recently defeated Jason MacDonald and Mike Swick. His single loss in the UFC has come at the hands of former champion, Rich Franklin.

The rest of the card officially includes:

  • Anderson Silva vs Dan Henderson for Silva’s middleweight title.
  • Heath Herring vs Cheick Kongo

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Report: Yushin Okami and Evan Tanner set to fight in Montreal at UFC 84

January 19, 2008 By: Sam Caplan Category: UFC 84, Evan Tanner, Yushin Okami, UFC 2 Comments →

During a question and answer session with UK fight fans on Friday, UFC color commentator Joe Rogan revealed that middleweights Yushin Okami and Evan Tanner are set to face each other on April 19 at UFC 84 in Montreal, reports MMAWeekly.com.

UFC vice president of talent relations Joe Silva reportedly confirmed Rogan’s comments.

UFC 84 is scheduled to be headlined by a welterweight title match between incumbent Matt Serra and challenger Georges St. Pierre.

The UFC has yet to formally announce the UFC 84 card, but is expected to do so during a press conference in Montreal on February 4. At that time, additional matches could be announced.

So far rumored bouts for the card include Karo Parisyan vs. Thiago Alves, Mac Danzig vs. Mark Bocek, and Joe Doerksen vs. Jason MacDonald. Canadian fighters Patrick Cote and Sam Stout could be included on the card as well.

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Report: Evan Tanner vs. Yushin Okami at UFC 82

December 27, 2007 By: Adam Morgan Category: UFC 82, Evan Tanner, Yushin Okami 6 Comments →

According to a report at MMA Mania, Evan Tanner will be making his return to the Octagon on March 1st, 2008 at the Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio against UFC middleweight contender Yushin Okami.

So much for warm-up fights. Okami is among the best middlweights in the world right now and is a huge challenge for a guy, in Evan Tanner, who hasn’t fought in over a year. Why would the UFC give Tanner such a tough fight for his comeback? It’s understandable that Tanner wants to fight the best in the world. Real competitors want real competition. But Yushin Okami? Tanner is scrappy, but there aren’t a lot of reasons to pick him in this fight.

Evan Tanner to return at UFC 82 in Columbus, Ohio?

December 18, 2007 By: Adam Morgan Category: UFC 82, Evan Tanner 2 Comments →

MMA Mania is reporting that Evan Tanner will be returning to the Octagon at UFC 82 in Columbus, Ohio. No opponent has yet been named. The addition of Tanner back into the mix at middleweight is a welcome one. The real question will be if he’s physically and mentally in shape enough to get back into mixed martial arts on a full time basis. Tanner has said numerous times that he feels he knows how to beat Anderson Silva. In order to get his crack at him, he’ll need to rack up several wins in the UFC.

Tanner is an alcoholic and has openly detailed his struggles via his personal blog. If he can come into the UFC, live a stable and healthy lifestyle, and fight full time in this short period, then more power to him. Here’s hoping this fight puts Tanner back on the right track.

Is Evan Tanner teasing us again?

November 09, 2007 By: Sam Caplan Category: Evan Tanner, UFC 18 Comments →

Evan Tanner’s official MySpace.com account issued the following bulletin:

November 8, 2007

Evan Tanner Returns to UFC

Former Middleweight Champ Back in ‘08
K.A.O.S. caught up with former UFC Middleweight Champ Evan Tanner who broke the news that he signed a 4 fight deal with UFC. Date, time and opponent still to be determined.

Listen to interview at:

http://www.kennyholland.com/

The UFC’s middleweight division needs Evan Tanner. And Evan Tanner probably needs the UFC’s middleweight division. All that said, it still doesn’t mean we’ll ever see Tanner compete again.

Evan Tanner’s sunken vessel

October 05, 2007 By: Adam Morgan Category: Evan Tanner 11 Comments →

Above is a picture of Evan Tanner’s poor sunken boat. If not removed within 30 days, the Mission Bay lifeguards will legally remove it. At this point, I doubt Tanner cares anymore. Poor guy. Nothing is going right for him right now.

HT: Bloody Elbow

Evan Tanner: “I am setting a date, and on that day I will stop drinking.”

October 02, 2007 By: Adam Morgan Category: Evan Tanner 7 Comments →

The following is the latest entry from Evan Tanner’s blog:

I am setting a date.

I am setting a date, and on that day I will stop drinking. That will be the day I begin to be a better man. That will be the day I begin to find the best of me. That will be the day I begin to find the best of what life can be. I want to find the magic. Join me. If you want to make a change in your life, join me. If any of you want to find the best of yourself, join me. If you want to find your own magic, join me. I am going to quit drinking, get back into training, and step into the Octagon again, and when I do, it will be dedicated to all of you who have the courage to believe in the best of what you can be, all of you who have the courage to stand up with me and face your fears and weaknesses. We will stand shoulder to shoulder, an unconquerable army. BELIEVE in what you can do, and it will happen.

I am setting a date.

It has been said that I am done, that I will never fight again. It has been said that I have no chance of ever being a champion again. I refuse to accept that. I challenge you to believe in yourself. I challenge you to do what they say can not be done. Join this army of unconquerable souls.

It’s not about fighting inside of the Octagon anymore for Tanner. Although that may be his ultimate goal and the light at the end of the tunnel that keeps him on the correct path, battling alcoholism is Evan’s biggest issue at the moment. Tanner has given us some great moments inside the Octagon.

Being the middleweight champion of the UFC and only knowing MMA techniques through instructional DVDs is a pretty impressive feat. If Tanner can kick his drinking habit and make a return to the Octagon, then that will be his most impressive feat of all. Should he return, win or lose, he will be able to hang his head high.

We’re all rooting for you, Evan. Hope to see you back in the Octagon soon, boss.

The sad saga of Evan Tanner continues

September 19, 2007 By: Sam Caplan Category: Evan Tanner 6 Comments →

Remember all those reports that Evan Tanner was going to fight Dean Lister in the UFC on Dec. 29? Yeah, well, after reading his latest web site entry from a few days ago I kind of feel like it might not happen…

I haven’t written in so long I’m not sure where to start. My stay in Oceanside has been one big misadventure. It’s beautiful here. I have met some of  the best people, but it is not my place for now.  I’ve done nothing but get into trouble. I quit drinking for a while. I was doing so well. I thought I was in control of that vice. I went out with some friends and decided to have a beer. It’s been downhill since. I’m drained of money. My friends are worn out with me. I’ve gotten tickets. I’ve spent thousands on the boat. I’ve been in fights, accidentally pushed police officers. I’ve met beautiful women and hurt their feelings, I sailed out on the ocean, I sank a boat, and I got into a fight with the woman who has been my best friend. She is losing faith in me. I hope we will find our peace soon. …

I’ve been on the road for almost two years. I’m tired. I’m tired of drinking, I’m tired of living out of bags, I’m tired of not feeling home. And where is home? I imagine being in the gym again. I imagine stepping into the Octagon again, and in some strange way, those thoughts bring me comfort. That is my home. I know it’s time to come home.

I have not been training at all, despite what the rumors say. I’ve signed no fights. I’m so far gone, living on the road, drinking myself into oblivion, that in moments of weakness, I wonder if I can make it back. It’s going to be a long road. I started drinking heavily, long before fighting was even a thought in my head. There was a definite reason I began. There was a method to my madness with good purpose. I’ll tell that story later.

I never wanted to be a fighter. I never dreamed of it. Those I most respected were men of peace. Despite what the general public thinks, I don’t train full time or year round. I never have. Throughout my career, if you wish to call it that, I have been a heavy drinker. I’ve only trained for a month or two at a time when I sign a fight. Sometimes I’ve put down the alcohol, sometimes I haven’t. I think the fights where I haven’t are obvious.  

I keep having this idea of what I could do, what I could be if I put put the vices aside and dedicated myself to the sport. I’ve been obsessed with the idea lately. It’s funny. A friend told me I was doing Wing Chun in my sleep, lying there, working techniques. The next night I was throwing elbows and knees. I take it as a sign.

All that has been on my mind is getting back in the gym. As soon as I can take care of the boat, that is where I will be.

Just to give you a heads up, I edited out a paragraph or two. Tanner has also posted a few entries since this one.

I look at a guy like Jon Murphy from EliteXC and Extreme Challenge and how he got his life together. You wish someone like him could reach out to Tanner and help the guy. But it doesn’t work that way. Evan is a 36-year old man and I’m sure plenty of people have reached out to him. In the end, when it comes to the stuff he’s going through, you have to want to get help. You have to do it yourself. No one can do it for you. People try to intervene with Britney Spears all the time and they wonder why she just doesn’t get help. It’s because she’s not ready to give up the lifestyle.

I better stop before someone rips me for talking about things unrelated to MMA because I’ll “miss the mark” and I’m just “not capable” of addressing social issues.

Man, what I wouldn’t give to have Evan’s fighting abilities.

UFC Roundup: Belcher gets new contract; Hazelett could fight Goulet; and Tanner to fight Lister?

September 03, 2007 By: Sam Caplan Category: Jonathan Goulet, Dustin Hazelett, Dean Lister, Evan Tanner, Alan Belcher, UFC No Comments →

There’s a quite a few UFC-related fight nuggets making the Internet rounds so I figured I’d recap them for you in one post:

UFCjunkie.com is citing a report in the Biloxi Sun-Herald middleweight Alan Belcher has signed a new four fight contract with the UFC. His next fight is scheduled for UFC 77 in Cincinnati on Oct. 20 against Kalib Starnes. If Belcher can string together a few more victories then you never know what might happen in the wide open UFC middleweight division.

– According to The Fight Network, Dustin Hazelett has been offered a chance to fight Jonathan Goulet at UFC Fight Night 11 on Sept. 19 as the injury replacement for Mike Swick.

– Ryan from FightLinker.com is reporting that according to Jorge Oliviera, Evan Tanner could end up fighting Dean Lister at UFC 79. Right now UFC 79 is looking like it will be taking place on Dec. 29 at either the MGM or Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas (although, one would hope the UFC would try and book the Thomas & Mack if Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva ends up being signed). According to Ryan, Oliviera is a training parter of Tanner’s. I enjoy Ryan’s site and I’m not questioning him on his info, but I won’t believe that Tanner is coming back to the UFC until I actually see him enter the Octagon again.

– My recently conducted interview with UFC president Dana White could be appearing on CBSSports.com sometime today. I’ll post an update here when it goes live.

Meltzer: Eastman and Tanner not scheduled to fight

August 05, 2007 By: Sam Caplan Category: Evan Tanner, Marvin Eastman, UFC 2 Comments →

Dave Meltzer of The Wrestling Observer is reporting that rumors of a bout between Marvin Eastman and Evan Tanner at UFC 76 are not true. According to Meltzer, Tanner isn’t even signed to the UFC.

Click here for Meltzer’s report.

Blog within a Blog: Steroid testing, Tiger Schulman’s and MMA, dream match at 160 lbs., and much more

July 26, 2007 By: Sam Caplan Category: Evan Tanner, Denis Kang, Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou, Din Thomas, EliteXC, Chris Horodecki, Eddie Alvarez, Shane Roller, Jake Rosholt, Eric Bradley, Jeremy Stephens, Wanderlei Silva, Jake Shields, Anderson Silva, Frank Mir, Dana White, IFL, Pride, Nick Diaz, Andrei Arlovski, Gilbert Melendez, Josh Barnett, Phil Baroni, Fedor Emelianenko, UFC 21 Comments →

 

I know I caught your attention with the Tiger Schulman’s Karate teaser.

I’ll get to TSK soon. But first, I want to talk about drugs.

Many pundits have written columns on the major sites discussing steroids and offering their ideas about how the issue should be addressed by the major promotions. Thus far, there seems to be a big push for the promotions to do internal testing.

While I respect all the writers who have expressed their thoughts, I think the idea of internal testing doesn’t make much sense.

Let me preface my next statement by saying all of my dealings with the major promotions have been nothing but positive and I have no reason to question their integrity.

However, which would you rather be responsible for the testing of athletes: the promotions themselves or an outside body?

Major League Baseball has its own testing program. Do you trust it? World Wrestling Entertainment has a “wellness program.” Do you trust it?

Look, I’m not an advocate for our government and I certainly don’t always have a lot of trust in our system at times, but I think they are better suited for the task of testing fighters as opposed to the promotions themselves.

Sure, if the IFL decides to do an internal program they’ll use an independent third party. But doesn’t the term “independent third party” become an oxymoron when you take into account that any testing lab brought in by a promotion will be getting their paycheck signed by the promotion they are working for?

Again, I have no reason to doubt the IFL or any promotion that would step up and decide to do internal testing. But is it necessary?

The commissions in states where MMA is regulated do a good job. Improvements still need to be made and testing needs to be expanded. But instead of instituting internal testing, I’d rather see the promotions work directly with the state athletic commissions and let the commissions be in charge of testing.

At the end of the day, the commissions are accountable to the people while independent third parties will be accountable to the fight promotions.

I’d really like to see the promotions stress to the commissions the importance of testing every fighter that’s slated to appear on a fight card.

Another thing I’d love to see — if it’s not being done already — is blood testing.

To my knowledge, only urine is used for drug screening (I could be wrong about this). While you can test urine for a lot of substances, there are some chemicals that don’t show up in urine such as Human Growth Hormone.

HGH is used by a lot of athletes, which is why the MLB drug testing policy is a joke. They test for steroids but not HGH. Blood tests might be costly but at the very least I think any fighter competing in a title fight should be tested for HGH.

Another thing I wanted to comment on is the assertion by some people that drug usage in MMA has reached “epidemic” proportions. The statement may or not be true because I have no idea whether the fighters who have tested positive recently are just isolated offenders or if the usage is widespread. However, from my own personal myopic perspective, steroids in MMA are relatively non-existent.

When I used to lift weights a lot, I primarily trained at home. However, I would go to gyms sometimes. When training at gyms I was amazed at how rampant and wide open steroid usage was. There was no attempt to hide it in most cases. It was incredulous.

I’ve trained at several martial arts schools that had people involved with competitive martial arts. Supplement use is frequent by many fighters that I know but if they’re on the juice, they are keeping it to themselves. I’ve never been offered any kind of chemical enhancer and have never seen a guy doing anything shady in the locker room or making comments about it during my MMA travels.

I’m making a broad statement here but this is a blog entry so cut me some slack, but I just don’t think steroids are a big issue in MMA at the grass roots level. While I find a lot of people who train MMA are educated, I don’t think many are all that affluent. What does affluence have to do with steroid use? Well, that crap isn’t cheap and a guy who is working multiple jobs so that he can pay down school loans, keep up with his rent or mortgage, and trying to pay training fees doesn’t have the investment capital needed to get in the business of performance enhancers.

My theory is that fighters don’t start using until they get to the higher levels then start making real money and then start feeling the pressure. It isn’t until so much is at stake and they feel like they have something to lose that they start to consider a turn to the dark side. Hermes Franca said in his letter he felt pressured because he was injured and needed the pay day. Whether that’s true in his case remains to be seen but it’s certainly a scenario that could be true for some fighters.

Then you have a guy like Stephan Bonnar. Endorsements aren’t easy to come by in MMA and sometimes your look dictates whether you get a sponsor just as much as your record. After having fought in the smaller shows and not wanting to go back, perhaps Bonnar also felt insecure about his status in the UFC after a couple of disappointing performances and was looking for a boost.

Unfortunately, we may never know precisely why fighters are taking steroids because for the most part, they aren’t talking.

Okay, enough talk about urine and drugs because now I want to discuss something that is almost a big of a threat to MMA’s reputation as steroids.

Tiger Schulman’s MMA?

For those of you who don’t live in the Northeastern corridor of the country, Tiger Schulman’s is a franchise of Karate schools that are usually strategically located in strip malls. They fit the description of the quintessential “McDojo.”

I’m not sure if it’s a company-wide transition, but on my way from Philly to Princeton, NJ each Saturday to do my show for ESPN 920, I pass three TSK locations and they are now called “Tiger Schulman’s Mixed Martial Arts.”

My first question is: what the hell has Tiger Schulman ever accomplished in MMA?

But I guess the fact that Tiger Schulman doesn’t come from a MMA background is irrelevant because MMA is what’s hot right now and TSK (hey, all the cool kids chant it at MMA shows!) has to keep enrollment up.

If that’s how they want to run their schools, so be it. However, I’m appalled by rumors (i.e. I’ve seen a few message board posts) that Tiger Schulman’s could be trying to secure a franchise in the IFL.

I have no idea if the talk is even accurate. For all I know, people could be getting things confused with previous speculation that Tiger Schulman’s was going to have a team in Chuck Norris’ World Combat League.

But just the thought of Tiger Schulman’s having anything to do with the IFL is enough to make me throw up in my mouth.

Some of you might feel it’s unfair of me to criticize TSK considering I don’t train there. However, I have an embarrassing admission to make and that is that I once trained there about 10-12 years ago. I only trained there for a month because they couldn’t convince me my street brawling style was ineffective. Quite frankly, a lot of the techniques they tried to teach me would have caused me to get my ass kicked (blocking kicks with forearms!?). I couldn’t believe some of the stuff they tried to teach with a straight face. But hey, they can break boards and I can’t.

I’m sure they’ve changed their curriculum over the years but my experience with McDojos (I sent my son to one at one point) has been that they teach a brand of martial arts that’s just challenging enough so that you don’t quit. The goal of these insidious places with their corporate tactics designed solely to separate you from your money is to make sure you advance through their program so that you keep paying them to move up the ladder.

TSK does have an MMA team that competes in a lot of smaller shows in the Northeast. Some of their fighters are actually pretty good, though none are nationally known. I’m sure they’ve assembled a decent camp with some good trainers but how are they able to teach MMA on a widespread basis? I’d really like to know the credentials of the people teaching MMA at all of their many local schools.

It’s been a long time since I’ve been inside of a Tiger Schulman’s (bow to your Sensei!) and I’m half-tempted to take a week of free lessons just to see what it’s all about. I’ve been to a school where MMA was taught the right way so I think I’d have a good comparative frame of reference.

If there’s any shred of truth that TSK is indeed trying to get an IFL team, I pray the IFL turns them away. No amount of money is worth what it could do to their reputation. The IFL allowing Tiger Schulman to have a team would be like Morton’s Steakhouse allowing McDonald’s to supply them with the meat they use.

Underachievers article on Sportsline

I’ve received a lot of good feedback on my latest Sportsline article regarding the “Ten biggest underachievers in MMA.” I received lots of e-mail and a few responses here on the blog in addition to a few message board threads dedicated to the topic.

It’s a fun topic that has sparked some debate and I’ve been asked about some guys that didn’t make my list. I wanted to comment on a few of them, not to put myself on the defensive but because I think it’s interesting and wanted a chance to comment publicly on some of the names.

One thing I focused on as I compiled my list is whether a guy was truly an underachiever or possibly not just as good as everyone had thought.

Robbie Lawler and Phil Baroni both fell into the category of not being as good as first thought.

While I respect Baroni’s boxing skills and feel his wrestling ability is underrated, I don’t consider him a versatile fighter. He just never developed on a rapid level and I think he got as big as he did because he provided the UFC with some big knockouts and a big personality back when they needed stars in the worst way. Simply put, I think he was overrated when he had his run in the UFC.

As for Lawler, he was like a major league hitter who gets called up from the minors and hits four home runs in his first four games because he’s an excellent fastball hitter. But then that hitter struggles once there’s a book on him and pitchers realize he can’t hit a breaking ball. Lawler brought the hit with his standup and big right crosses but wasn’t as well-rounded as you’d expect an MFS fighter to be. Once fighters started taking him off his feet he was exposed.

The ironic thing is that Lawler has really improved in recent years and is a much better fighter than he was during his first run in the UFC. In my mind, he went from being overrated to being underrated.

The name of Andrei Arlovski was brought up. The Pitbull has definitely been a disappointment and I think he’s capable of more. But I don’t think he’s been underachieving long enough to make the list. If things keep up the way they’ve been going, it won’t be long though until he gets added.

Renato Sobral was also a nomination but I think his current status in MMA is correct. His submission wrestling is world class and his striking has improved. But I see him as being nothing more than a guy worthy of fighting in the UFC just outside of title contention and that just happens to be exactly where he’s at right now.

Vernon White was also suggested. Ugh, don’t get me started. Now, if you know Vernon and think he’s a good guy, that’s fine. Just don’t let your personal bias get in the way of your overall perspective of his place in MMA. He’s right where he belongs and I don’t see any potential in him that’s untapped.

Two choices that people didn’t agree with were Frank Mir and Evan Tanner. There are those who actually feel both are overachievers.

Say what?

In regard to Mir, I will concede that with the improved depth in the UFC’s heavyweight division there’s no way he would be in the title picture even if he was in his prime. However, based on his ground ability, he should at least be a middle of the road guy similar to Heath Herring. But Mir isn’t even Heath Herring! Right now, he’s more like Wes Sims.

Tanner may not be a great pure athlete but he’s an incredible fighter who could easily be the UFC middleweight champ right now if he had his act together. Some people will bristle at that statement but I think Anderson Silva is a vulnerable champion and the UFC simply has an abundance of guys who he matches up well with.

The bottom line is that Tanner would be a bad matchup for Silva. Good luck in trying to convince me otherwise.

I know he can’t stand with Silva, but who can in the 185 lbs. division? But Tanner is a far superior wrestler and if the fight got to the ground then Silva would be in a world of shit.

I’m considering doing an overachievers article next week but have only come up with Jason “Mayhem” Miller, Kenny Florian, and Matt Serra.

Anyone else have any ideas?

A 160 lbs. division sounds good to me!

I like where EliteXC President of Live Events (what an awkward title) Gary Shaw is going with his idea of possibly creating a 160 lbs. division.

The 161 lbs. division in Pride was pretty exciting and it’s a practical weight class for a lot of fighters. It’s also a good idea on Shaw’s part because it would be a way for EliteXC to differentiate their product from the competition.

It would also be a great way to showcase Nick Diaz.

You could definitely build the division around Diaz, assuming he can put the bong down. He can held his own with anyone at 170 lbs., but Cesar Gracie teammate Jake Shields is a big part of EliteXC’s welterweight division and the two of them won’t fight.

Oh, how I could also forget that at 160 lbs., Diaz is a beast!

The 160 lbs. weight class would also be perfect for a fighter not currently on the EliteXC roster. I think former Bodog welterweight champion Eddie Alvarez is made for 160 lbs.

Alvarez is undersized for 170 lbs. in my opinion. He’s thought about dropping to 155 lbs. but feels comfortable at welterweight and wants to stay there. However, he might be more open to the idea of dropping to 160 lbs. as opposed to 155 lbs.

His boxing is good enough that he can hold his own with anyone at 170 lbs., however, put him at 160 lbs. and like Diaz, he becomes a beast.

Alvarez has two fights left on his contract to Bodog and when I had him on my show on ESPN 920 several weeks back, he expressed nothing but happiness with Bodog.

However, money talks and if Elite makes a strong offer once Alvarez becomes a free agent, then you never know.

Bringing in Alvarez would be a great move for Elite because he’s significant name that could be added for an affordable price. While he wouldn’t come cheap, he wouldn’t require Sokoudjou money ($150,000 per match).

If built up properly, a match between Alvarez and Diaz could headline a pay-per-view.

It would also be one hell of a fight.

IFL vs. EliteXC?

One thing I left out in my conference call notes for the IFL yesterday is that IFL commissioner Kurt Otto once again commented on the possibility of having all the winners from the upcoming IFL World Grand Prix eventually take on another promotion’s top five in a best-of format.

Otto said he’s willing to work with just about any promotion but wouldn’t talk specific names. However, EliteXC seems like a logical partner because thus far, Gary Shaw is the only other executive of a major fight promotion that I know of willing to work with promotions other than his own.

I’d love to see it. Right now EliteXC needs to work on building their heavyweight and light heavyweight divisions but Chris Horodecki vs. Nick Diaz at lightweight, Delson Heleno vs. Jake Shields at welterweight, and Murilo “Ninja” Rua vs. Benji Radach at middleweight are intriguing matchups on paper.

But in the end, I think an EliteXC vs. IFL team challenge is unlikely to happen because Shaw has not been extremely keen on the IFL’s team concept when the topic has been brought up during conference calls.

Free agent market ripe in MMA

It’s July 26 as I write this and Fedor Emelianenko, Wanderlei Silva, Josh Barnett, Thierry Sokoudjou, Brock Lesnar, Denis Kang, and Gilbert Melendez are all still free agents.

I don’t think the MMA market in North America could handle another new promotion, but there’s enough talent out there that if there was a multi-millionaire who wanted to get involved with MMA and didn’t care about making money right away, they could throw some cash around and become an immediate player.

Tito Ortiz could also become available in the coming months and if you threw in guys like Matt Lindland and Robbie Lawler (who don’t have exclusive contracts), a newcomer to the business could make Dana White’s worst nightmare become reality.

I’m not saying, I’m just saying.

Rosholt wins MMA debut

Remember the name Jake Rosholt.

The Team Takedown member, who also trains with Randy Couture at Xtreme Couture in Las Vegas, won his MMA debut this past weekend in Oklahoma. Rosholt tapped Dusty Miller at 3:40 in round one during Masters of the Cage 15 in Oklahoma.

A former top college wrestler, Rosholt is one of four members of Team Takedown, a group started with the intent of recruiting top collegiate wrestlers and assisting them in making the transition to MMA.

Rosholt, Johny Hendricks, Shane Roller, and Eric Bradley all have big futures in this sport.

Where in the world is Chris Wilson?

Does anyone know what happened to former Portland Wolfpack welterweight Chris Wilson? I thought the Team Quest member was a legitimate prospect at 170 lbs. but he left the IFL and I haven’t heard about him since besides some rumors that he might be signing with Bodog.

If you know anything about Wilson’s current status, please drop me a line.