Comments for Five Ounces of Pain http://fiveouncesofpain.com Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 Comment on Georges St. Pierre: “I want to fight the best man, and the best man is Condit.” by Rece Rock http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/georges-st-pierre-%e2%80%9ci-want-to-fight-the-best-man-and-the-best-man-is-condit-%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-202400 Rece Rock Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:45:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54934#comment-202400 Of strikes in Bunches lie he would have with Diaz.. I think he will be comfortable doing his usual thing Of strikes in Bunches lie he would have with Diaz.. I think he will be comfortable doing his usual thing

]]> Comment on Georges St. Pierre: “I want to fight the best man, and the best man is Condit.” by Rece Rock http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/georges-st-pierre-%e2%80%9ci-want-to-fight-the-best-man-and-the-best-man-is-condit-%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-202399 Rece Rock Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:43:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54934#comment-202399 Are u dimInIshing the greatness that was the kimboplex? Haha. I think condit can fight his usual fight against GSP because he doesn't have to fear a flurry Are u dimInIshing the greatness that was the kimboplex? Haha. I think condit can fight his usual fight against GSP because he doesn’t have to fear a flurry

]]> Comment on UFC looking to do Dominick Cruz-Urijah Faber III in July by MCM http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/ufc-looking-to-do-dominick-cruz-urijah-faber-iii-in-july/comment-page-1/#comment-202397 MCM Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:36:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54891#comment-202397 Who would have thought in an argument over Zuffa matchmaking, MMA-LOGIC would be pro and I would be con. Who would have thought in an argument over Zuffa matchmaking, MMA-LOGIC would be pro and I would be con.

]]> Comment on Georges St. Pierre: “I want to fight the best man, and the best man is Condit.” by Mad_Hatter_XX http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/georges-st-pierre-%e2%80%9ci-want-to-fight-the-best-man-and-the-best-man-is-condit-%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-202396 Mad_Hatter_XX Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:33:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54934#comment-202396 GSP fights to not lose instead of win and if Condit brings same game plan as he did with Diaz we will have the greatest snooze feat in UFC history. I fear it will make Kimbo Slice v Houston Alexander look like fight of the decade. You may begin flaming. GSP fights to not lose instead of win and if Condit brings same game plan as he did with Diaz we will have the greatest snooze feat in UFC history.

I fear it will make Kimbo Slice v Houston Alexander look like fight of the decade.

You may begin flaming.

]]> Comment on Georges St. Pierre: “I want to fight the best man, and the best man is Condit.” by MCM http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/georges-st-pierre-%e2%80%9ci-want-to-fight-the-best-man-and-the-best-man-is-condit-%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-202395 MCM Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:26:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54934#comment-202395 Not only members, but we sit on the board of directors. ;) And yes, If the game plan to take out Condit was to use leg kicks and not get trapped against the cage (like the entire interwebz was saying to do to Diaz), and Diaz did the same thing, I Would be saying he won. In fact, I would be even more vocal about it cause it would have showed "smart" game planning by Diaz. I honestly had no problem with the fight. It wasn't the slobber knocker people expected, but I enjoyed it when I saw it. I've seen a lot worse fights, and a lot worse judging, although the fallout from this fight made it a lot more interesting. Not only members, but we sit on the board of directors. ;)
And yes, If the game plan to take out Condit was to use leg kicks and not get trapped against the cage (like the entire interwebz was saying to do to Diaz), and Diaz did the same thing, I Would be saying he won. In fact, I would be even more vocal about it cause it would have showed “smart” game planning by Diaz.
I honestly had no problem with the fight. It wasn’t the slobber knocker people expected, but I enjoyed it when I saw it. I’ve seen a lot worse fights, and a lot worse judging, although the fallout from this fight made it a lot more interesting.

]]> Comment on Georges St. Pierre: “I want to fight the best man, and the best man is Condit.” by Rece Rock http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/georges-st-pierre-%e2%80%9ci-want-to-fight-the-best-man-and-the-best-man-is-condit-%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-202392 Rece Rock Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:08:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54934#comment-202392 So Logic....past & present Jacksons guys like Melvin Guillard, leonard Garcia Jon Jones, Clay Guida, Keith Jardine , Donald Cerrone, Andrei Arlovski , & Diego Sanchez all guys that didn't bring it or go to war right? Just strategist and technical fighters looking to burn the clock n score a point here n there... Dude I'm not a fan of Jackson BUT your comment is just ignorant. So Logic….past & present Jacksons guys like Melvin Guillard, leonard Garcia
Jon Jones, Clay Guida, Keith Jardine , Donald Cerrone, Andrei Arlovski , &
Diego Sanchez all guys that didn’t bring it or go to war right? Just strategist and technical fighters looking to burn the clock n score a point here n there… Dude I’m not a fan of Jackson BUT your comment is just ignorant.

]]> Comment on UFC looking to do Dominick Cruz-Urijah Faber III in July by MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/ufc-looking-to-do-dominick-cruz-urijah-faber-iii-in-july/comment-page-1/#comment-202391 MMA-LOGIC Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:07:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54891#comment-202391 He didnt just win once. He lost once but he didnt win once. He has only lost to 3 guys in 6 years and he is 1 a peice with 1 of them. That isnt winning once. He defended his belt 6 times in a row or something. This is a trilogy, he is prolly the 2nd best in the division, he won a title eliminator and you think this is just because its him. No its because of 2 good reasons #1 being its 1 all and a decider, #2 because he earned it by beating the other top contender. He didnt just win once. He lost once but he didnt win once. He has only lost to 3 guys in 6 years and he is 1 a peice with 1 of them. That isnt winning once. He defended his belt 6 times in a row or something. This is a trilogy, he is prolly the 2nd best in the division, he won a title eliminator and you think this is just because its him. No its because of 2 good reasons #1 being its 1 all and a decider, #2 because he earned it by beating the other top contender.

]]> Comment on Georges St. Pierre: “I want to fight the best man, and the best man is Condit.” by MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/georges-st-pierre-%e2%80%9ci-want-to-fight-the-best-man-and-the-best-man-is-condit-%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-202390 MMA-LOGIC Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:56:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54934#comment-202390 Im a bit weird too because Diaz wasnt just walking forward with his hands down. Diaz out punched Condit easily with far more strikes to the head and body. He WAS the aggressor and MCM you are well aware that Diaz was not just walking forward and was the aggressor. If not you are weird. Condits gameplan was to stay away and throw leg kicks, gather points and if Diaz moved forward to het away. That was his gameplan. Diaz was constantly pushing the fight, going for punches, takedowns etc. Condit never initiated any clinch, takedowns or moved forward for many significant attacks. So yeah if you think for 1 sec that Condit was the aggressor you are weird. I will say this again if the boot was on the other foot I would be pissed at Diaz for running, now as you Rece and MCM are official members of the I hate Diaz club, would you say Diaz fought a good fight. My theory is that you would have a different outlook. Im a bit weird too because Diaz wasnt just walking forward with his hands down. Diaz out punched Condit easily with far more strikes to the head and body. He WAS the aggressor and MCM you are well aware that Diaz was not just walking forward and was the aggressor. If not you are weird. Condits gameplan was to stay away and throw leg kicks, gather points and if Diaz moved forward to het away. That was his gameplan. Diaz was constantly pushing the fight, going for punches, takedowns etc. Condit never initiated any clinch, takedowns or moved forward for many significant attacks. So yeah if you think for 1 sec that Condit was the aggressor you are weird. I will say this again if the boot was on the other foot I would be pissed at Diaz for running, now as you Rece and MCM are official members of the I hate Diaz club, would you say Diaz fought a good fight. My theory is that you would have a different outlook.

]]> Comment on Georges St. Pierre: “I want to fight the best man, and the best man is Condit.” by MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/georges-st-pierre-%e2%80%9ci-want-to-fight-the-best-man-and-the-best-man-is-condit-%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-202388 MMA-LOGIC Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:45:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54934#comment-202388 I have come to my conclusions and I hate lay n pray and so called technical fighters. I hate time wasting or running down the clock in other sports, I hate abusing the rules to win or avoiding a sporting contest. Always have. Condit is a good fighter that can finish but guess what? Last weekend that wasnt the Condit that turned up. I havnt written off Condit but Im going to make it damn clear that fighting "technical" fights where you avoid, out point, hold down, smother, take the contest out of the fight or RUN is not what sport is about. You find a way to win and can be as technical as you like but I for one want a sporting contest and not just one guy running away and out pointing by using the fact that Diaz doesnt check leg kicks as a way to avoid any real fight. Read what Munoz, Roufus, Rousey, McKenzie and many other fighters said. I have seen fights where "fighters" go in there with the gameplan to take down, stay tight, let up, takedown and repeat as a way to win. That is a winning gameplan but sooo negative. Its avoiding a fight and Rece its a fight. Back to Condit, he actually ran away, its not imaginary. Many times during the fight he ran away, turned around and ran. Now I think there are lots of fighters that could ein more by lay n pray or using so called "technical gameplans" but they go in to submit, tko, ko or at least try. You dont have to be Chris Leben. Im just as mad at the judging as I am at Jacksons. The way it is scored alows.teams like Jacksons to outpoint through negative gameplans. I thought agression and octagon control was in the scoring for this reason. I have come to my conclusions and I hate lay n pray and so called technical fighters. I hate time wasting or running down the clock in other sports, I hate abusing the rules to win or avoiding a sporting contest. Always have. Condit is a good fighter that can finish but guess what? Last weekend that wasnt the Condit that turned up. I havnt written off Condit but Im going to make it damn clear that fighting “technical” fights where you avoid, out point, hold down, smother, take the contest out of the fight or RUN is not what sport is about. You find a way to win and can be as technical as you like but I for one want a sporting contest and not just one guy running away and out pointing by using the fact that Diaz doesnt check leg kicks as a way to avoid any real fight. Read what Munoz, Roufus, Rousey, McKenzie and many other fighters said. I have seen fights where “fighters” go in there with the gameplan to take down, stay tight, let up, takedown and repeat as a way to win. That is a winning gameplan but sooo negative. Its avoiding a fight and Rece its a fight. Back to Condit, he actually ran away, its not imaginary. Many times during the fight he ran away, turned around and ran. Now I think there are lots of fighters that could ein more by lay n pray or using so called “technical gameplans” but they go in to submit, tko, ko or at least try. You dont have to be Chris Leben. Im just as mad at the judging as I am at Jacksons. The way it is scored alows.teams like Jacksons to outpoint through negative gameplans. I thought agression and octagon control was in the scoring for this reason.

]]> Comment on UFC looking to do Dominick Cruz-Urijah Faber III in July by Rece Rock http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/ufc-looking-to-do-dominick-cruz-urijah-faber-iii-in-july/comment-page-1/#comment-202387 Rece Rock Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:42:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54891#comment-202387 Zuffas marketing team can justify I'm sure....Sadly your right mcm faber is being spoon fed but it's only because they hope to make $ and create a draw out of these lighter weight classes... It's not right but it is business as usual. Zuffas marketing team can justify I’m sure….Sadly your right mcm faber is being spoon fed but it’s only because they hope to make $ and create a draw out of these lighter weight classes… It’s not right but it is business as usual.

]]> Comment on Georges St. Pierre: “I want to fight the best man, and the best man is Condit.” by MCM http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/georges-st-pierre-%e2%80%9ci-want-to-fight-the-best-man-and-the-best-man-is-condit-%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-202386 MCM Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:40:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54934#comment-202386 I still don't see how Diaz was the "aggressor" just cause he was walking forward, talking shit with his hands low. One would presume that the fighter throwing and landing the most strikes would be the aggressor. Then again, I'm stupid enough to think that Kampmann won against Sanchez. Guess I just value actually landing punches over talking. But I'm a weird MMA fan like that. I still don’t see how Diaz was the “aggressor” just cause he was walking forward, talking shit with his hands low. One would presume that the fighter throwing and landing the most strikes would be the aggressor. Then again, I’m stupid enough to think that Kampmann won against Sanchez. Guess I just value actually landing punches over talking. But I’m a weird MMA fan like that.

]]> Comment on UFC looking to do Dominick Cruz-Urijah Faber III in July by MCM http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/ufc-looking-to-do-dominick-cruz-urijah-faber-iii-in-july/comment-page-1/#comment-202385 MCM Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:32:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54891#comment-202385 No. I've never found single victories to be indicative of deserving title shots. Not for Lesnar, not for Florian, not for Machida, not for Santos, etc. Including this match, Faber will have fought for the title 5 times in his last 10 fights and only once has he had to fight twice in a row without a title on the line. Bowles, on the other hand, had to fight three times before getting a rematch. Benavidez had fought and won three times and wasn't even in consideration for the #1 contender, nor was Jorgensen who had fought and won twice. I know you and LP (and others) hate that Randy had so many title shots, but I can justify all but two of those. I don't see how anyone can justify 3 of Faber's last 4 title shots. No. I’ve never found single victories to be indicative of deserving title shots. Not for Lesnar, not for Florian, not for Machida, not for Santos, etc.
Including this match, Faber will have fought for the title 5 times in his last 10 fights and only once has he had to fight twice in a row without a title on the line. Bowles, on the other hand, had to fight three times before getting a rematch. Benavidez had fought and won three times and wasn’t even in consideration for the #1 contender, nor was Jorgensen who had fought and won twice.

I know you and LP (and others) hate that Randy had so many title shots, but I can justify all but two of those. I don’t see how anyone can justify 3 of Faber’s last 4 title shots.

]]> Comment on Roger Gracie reportedly signs with the UFC by Rece Rock http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/roger-gracie-reportedly-signs-with-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-202384 Rece Rock Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:31:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54901#comment-202384 After Tim Kennedy was barking about being stagnant last week I wonder if he sees this as a possble opportunity that he gets grabbed or as a slap in the face for not being bought over sooner After Tim Kennedy was barking about being stagnant last week I wonder if he sees this as a possble opportunity that he gets grabbed or as a slap in the face for not being bought over sooner

]]> Comment on Georges St. Pierre: “I want to fight the best man, and the best man is Condit.” by Rece Rock http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/georges-st-pierre-%e2%80%9ci-want-to-fight-the-best-man-and-the-best-man-is-condit-%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-202383 Rece Rock Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:22:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54934#comment-202383 Auto correct damn it...I meant... Don't be part of the easily influenced flock of sheep Auto correct damn it…I meant… Don’t be part of the easily influenced flock of sheep

]]> Comment on Georges St. Pierre: “I want to fight the best man, and the best man is Condit.” by Rece Rock http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/georges-st-pierre-%e2%80%9ci-want-to-fight-the-best-man-and-the-best-man-is-condit-%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-202382 Rece Rock Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:20:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54934#comment-202382 Really logic? With good concious You can fully discount Condit just like that?.. after one fight of fighting to win rather then fighting to finish?? Go watch condits high lite reels on YouTube then tell me how much he relies on game plans & fighting safe... Don't be part of thee adult influenced flock of sheep that is the typical mma fan... Come to your own conclusions. Really logic? With good concious You can fully discount Condit just like that?.. after one fight of fighting to win rather then fighting to finish?? Go watch condits high lite reels on YouTube then tell me how much he relies on game plans & fighting safe… Don’t be part of thee adult influenced flock of sheep that is the typical mma fan… Come to your own conclusions.

]]> Comment on Georges St. Pierre: “I want to fight the best man, and the best man is Condit.” by MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/georges-st-pierre-%e2%80%9ci-want-to-fight-the-best-man-and-the-best-man-is-condit-%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-202381 MMA-LOGIC Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:08:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54934#comment-202381 I know Im just joking. I know running isnt running if its your gameplan to run...for some reason. I know Im just joking. I know running isnt running if its your gameplan to run…for some reason.

]]> Comment on Georges St. Pierre: “I want to fight the best man, and the best man is Condit.” by MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/georges-st-pierre-%e2%80%9ci-want-to-fight-the-best-man-and-the-best-man-is-condit-%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-202380 MMA-LOGIC Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:05:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54934#comment-202380 Yeah I know what you mean. I hate those guys. Yeah I know what you mean. I hate those guys.

]]> Comment on UFC looking to do Dominick Cruz-Urijah Faber III in July by MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/ufc-looking-to-do-dominick-cruz-urijah-faber-iii-in-july/comment-page-1/#comment-202379 MMA-LOGIC Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:03:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54891#comment-202379 But he won against the other top contender to get the #1. That means he deserves it doesnt it? But he won against the other top contender to get the #1. That means he deserves it doesnt it?

]]> Comment on Georges St. Pierre: “I want to fight the best man, and the best man is Condit.” by Rece Rock http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/georges-st-pierre-%e2%80%9ci-want-to-fight-the-best-man-and-the-best-man-is-condit-%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-202378 Rece Rock Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:03:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54934#comment-202378 Some fans should be accustomed with running because all they do is run there mouths day in and day out... And shit man that's a lot longer then 5 rounds... Some fans should be accustomed with running because all they do is run there mouths day in and day out… And shit man that’s a lot longer then 5 rounds…

]]> Comment on Cain Velasquez-Frank Mir match-up on the horizon by MCM http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2012/02/11/cain-velasquez-frank-mir-match-up-on-the-horizon/comment-page-1/#comment-202373 MCM Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:40:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=54918#comment-202373 Agreed LOGIC. Cain has always been hyped beyond what his accomplishments warrant. I would have rather seen Mir/Big foot, but from a divisional stand point, this makes more sense for Frank. I also agree with stone. Mir is title ready, Cain needs at least one more. Agreed LOGIC. Cain has always been hyped beyond what his accomplishments warrant. I would have rather seen Mir/Big foot, but from a divisional stand point, this makes more sense for Frank.

I also agree with stone. Mir is title ready, Cain needs at least one more.

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